I tried following one for generals, but alot of stuff is different in bfme
Projectiles and fx
Started by pabtyf, Mar 24 2005 09:55 PM
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 09:55 PM
Does anyone know of a good tutorial on projectiles or fxlist entries, I can't figure them out at all.
I tried following one for generals, but alot of stuff is different in bfme
I tried following one for generals, but alot of stuff is different in bfme
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 10:49 PM
Ask me what FX you are looking for and I'll tell you what I know...
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 11:02 PM
I just wanted a better understanding of them on the whole really. What i'm trying to do is some kind of 'web' weapon for shelob, where she appears to shoot web at people.
I know I have to add a new weapon with a projectile nugget, but that's about it really :( I'm looking if I can modify the firearrow projectile to drop some kind of trail, but anything i change makes no difference in game.
As for the fxlist stuff, anything i try in there just seems to display as square textures no alpha channel i guess.
I know I have to add a new weapon with a projectile nugget, but that's about it really :( I'm looking if I can modify the firearrow projectile to drop some kind of trail, but anything i change makes no difference in game.
As for the fxlist stuff, anything i try in there just seems to display as square textures no alpha channel i guess.
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Posted 24 March 2005 - 11:04 PM
Well, I'm gonna finish up the animate infantry tutorial and maybe I'll do one for FX and Particle FX. That's a complicated one. I've knocked out all the easy ones, so I'm down to the hard ones now. :(
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 12:04 AM
Ooh. I got her shooting web. Now what I want it to do is when she kills a unit, it creates a webbed unit (from shelobs lair) which converts the unit to 'my' side I know about ondeath OCL's (I think). These death types are hardcoded I'm guessing .
I looked in the gamedata.ini (with a hexeditor) and found a death type which isn't used ingame: EXTRA_8.
I've added this to shelobs weapon.
In order to get this to work, do I have to add something like this:
to every unit in the game to get this to work?
or is there an easier way?
And another thing. I want her to permanently kill stuff (so it doesn't respawn in a horde if a banner carrier is present) does this mean i have to add a permanentlykilledby filter to every object too?
I looked in the gamedata.ini (with a hexeditor) and found a death type which isn't used ingame: EXTRA_8.
I've added this to shelobs weapon.
In order to get this to work, do I have to add something like this:
Behavior = SlowDeathBehavior ModuleTag_SHELOBDEATH DeathTypes = EXTRA_8 DestructionDelay = 2667;Matches length of animations of TRANS_IdleToDying + DYING states ; Sound = INITIAL HumanVoiceDie OCL = FINAL OCL_CreateMordorFighter End
to every unit in the game to get this to work?
or is there an easier way?
And another thing. I want her to permanently kill stuff (so it doesn't respawn in a horde if a banner carrier is present) does this mean i have to add a permanentlykilledby filter to every object too?
Edited by pabtyf, 25 March 2005 - 12:07 AM.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 05:08 AM
To be honest, yes. I did not know of that damage type. You would probably want the death FX OCL to spawn this object for Mordor if you want ALL units to create units for you.
Object WebbedHumanoidWithMordorFighterInside
Though I'd probably use the Beserker Webbed unit instead.
Object WebbedHumanoidWithIsengardBeserkerInside
I don't know enuff about the permantly killed filter to be able to answer with confidence.
Object WebbedHumanoidWithMordorFighterInside
Though I'd probably use the Beserker Webbed unit instead.
Object WebbedHumanoidWithIsengardBeserkerInside
I don't know enuff about the permantly killed filter to be able to answer with confidence.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 09:26 AM
Oh well. I may be some time then!
Re- the DEATHTYPE, theres loads in there:
although i think some of those may be DAMAGETYPEs
Re- the DEATHTYPE, theres loads in there:
FADED SUPERNATURAL KNOCKBACK EXTRA_8 EXTRA_7 EXTRA_6 EXTRA_5 EXTRA_4 EXTRA_3 EXTRA_2 POISONED_BETA SPLATTED DETONATED LASERED SUICIDED FLOODED TOPPLED POISONED EXPLODED CRUSHED NORMAL UNDEFINED FLY_INTO HERO_RANGED URUK SPECIALIST HERO CHOP MAGIC PASSENGER REFLECTED TOPPLING FALLING PENALTY WATER UNRESISTABLE HEALING FLAME STRUCTURAL SIEGE PIERCE SLASH CRUSH FORCE
although i think some of those may be DAMAGETYPEs
Edited by pabtyf, 25 March 2005 - 10:00 AM.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 10:34 AM
From what i gathered there are 14 damage types. You pick which ones they are. I dont know other than what the INI files tell me.
I dont know other than what the INI files tell me.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 01:43 PM
Ok. Got shelob to shoot web.
Given every unit a new DEATHTYPE (took me ages!) to create a webbed unit on death. that all works fine:
But. I can't seem to kill the webbed units like in shelobs lair. in order to create my converted units.
You can see on the radar in this image, that they're still showing up as enemies (they're blue), but the cursor just stays green over them.
Thought it might be to do with SIDE = Mordor in the webbed unit code. But i've changed that to neutral and it still doesn't work.
Any ideas..
Given every unit a new DEATHTYPE (took me ages!) to create a webbed unit on death. that all works fine:
But. I can't seem to kill the webbed units like in shelobs lair. in order to create my converted units.
You can see on the radar in this image, that they're still showing up as enemies (they're blue), but the cursor just stays green over them.
Thought it might be to do with SIDE = Mordor in the webbed unit code. But i've changed that to neutral and it still doesn't work.
Any ideas..
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 04:24 PM
besides the fact that is cool as hell and nice to know the damage types, I don't have an answer why. 
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 05:33 PM
(in the shelobs lair only swordsmen can free webed soldiers)
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 08:29 PM
I tried it with all (mordor) units. still doesn't work. could have been coded/scripted into the map itself. I don't understand the map things and my worldbuilder won't run so i can't check this.
Might just leave it as it is mind you.
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I've been doing this on my son's pc, I went to have another look at it just now and he's re-installed the game! and deleted all my modded ini files
all my work gone! 
NOT impressed
Might just leave it as it is mind you.
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I've been doing this on my son's pc, I went to have another look at it just now and he's re-installed the game! and deleted all my modded ini files
all my work gone! NOT impressed
Edited by pabtyf, 25 March 2005 - 09:39 PM.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 11:05 PM
Tha sucks! If I lost all my work I might just not even pick it up again. Make sure you back up all your files like I do periodicly.
Edited by Extelleron, 25 March 2005 - 11:05 PM.
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 11:13 PM
NOW you tell me 
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 11:33 PM
Nice to see another old timer here pabtyf. I was born in '72.NOW you tell me
Now i don't feel so old anymore
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Posted 26 March 2005 - 12:17 AM
Keep it up you young wipper snapper!
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Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:41 PM
Hey Hostile i need some help too with FX, i want the eomer spear bigger like 3 times as big, i can ini mod without problems i just dont know what to do here, i tried scale but nothing happened. I need to change a 3 parts of the fx i think, because of the names
SpearContrailThin
SpearFlameTrail
SpearHitFX
thanks
i just found a reference in fxlist
SpearContrailThin
SpearFlameTrail
SpearHitFX
thanks
i just found a reference in fxlist
FXList FX_EomerSpearThrow Sound Name = EomerSpearFly End Endbut not correlation with fxparticlesystem. i mean there's no eomerspearfly there. Im confused
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Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:40 PM
I think the spear is a Unit, not a particle. The particle stuff is just the line of white junk that comes out from the back. The spear is probably in "Goodfactionsubobjects.ini". Check out the spear in weapon.ini to find out what unit After you find it, try writing "Scale 4.0" somewhere in the object code. That should do it
After you find it, try writing "Scale 4.0" somewhere in the object code. That should do it
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Posted 01 May 2006 - 06:19 PM
@pabtyf
you can add OCL directly to your weapon by a so called OCL_Nugget
[codebox]
DamageNugget ; A basic Nugget that just does damage
-your normal damage nugget-
End
WeaponOCLNugget
WeaponOCLName = OCL_whatever
End
[/codebox]
then it'll spawn the unit on your side and you don't have to add the death-type to all units again
you can add OCL directly to your weapon by a so called OCL_Nugget
[codebox]
DamageNugget ; A basic Nugget that just does damage
-your normal damage nugget-
End
WeaponOCLNugget
WeaponOCLName = OCL_whatever
End
[/codebox]
then it'll spawn the unit on your side and you don't have to add the death-type to all units again
Edited by Tobi, 01 May 2006 - 06:19 PM.
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