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#21 Gambit

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:26 PM

My (poor) knowledge on the fluff sets them as a "defensive" faction, capable of holding positions or protecting sites.

I think this is their most common trait, butt then again, I am not a reliable fluff source!


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#22 fuggles

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:19 PM

Don't worry - It's all in hand.

#23 Roderick

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:20 PM

Fairly vanilla with some emphasis on defensive and siege. They favour the LR achilles, and ForgeWorld release an alternative marine list called "Siege Vanguard Army" which suits good for IF (yet you could apply to UM or any other similar chapter). Such list considers things like a master of siege instead of brother captain, centurion suits, siege or ironclad dreadnoughts, no jump marines but a walking variant for cc and mantlets for tactical marines as upgrades. Librarians may have special abilities as many chapters has different powers listed for them. They also can feature more than others a company champion because IF and successors value the martial skill of duelists.



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 03:40 PM

I mean we need more loyal primarchs we have blood angels and ultramarines and dark angels , space wolves,now but for chaos we have like almost all evil primarchs death guard,emperors children,death guard, world eaters , thousand sons, iron warriors and night lords.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:10 AM

Great news everyone! I found a land raider Prometheus! That just leaves one more dream, which is being worked on... I'll show you what we've been working on when it's done.

 

All required unit models in game, so that's one baby step. Textures need repointing, FX and sounds adding, AE code doing.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:18 AM

Great news everyone! I found a land raider Prometheus! That just leaves one more dream, which is being worked on... I'll show you what we've been working on when it's done.

 

All required unit models in game, so that's one baby step. Textures need repointing, FX and sounds adding, AE code doing.

I also have posted some 3d max models of different land raiders on my moddb. Maybe there is something useful there?

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 12:30 AM

Oooh did you put termies in or no?

#28 fuggles

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:24 AM

Aha! The next piece of the puzzle has arrived. Great stuff.

I wasn't planning on not including terminators?

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 02:59 PM

you can always make a honour guard of terminators as a last stand squad, ultimate boss bodyguard ...

 

centurions would overlap that role of super heavy suits, probably and depending on the model availability, more cc/siege or more ranged/heavy support. Be careful not to overlap the role with dreadnoughts either.

 

Which models of centurions have potential to be ported? Do you get all sources?


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 05:36 PM

No centurions, Cosmo not keen on animating them. Other plans in place, I can show new units later, even describe tech tree. New forum or here?

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 05:44 PM

As long as you're committed to at least organizing the stuff, I like a proper forum.

 

Yes, more than 3d modelers, we need specifically animators/riggers since some models are available but static.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:03 PM

May need your own forums soon too. :party:


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#33 fuggles

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:22 PM

Okay, well fire away. I imagine the password to be Rogal, Dorn or Fist.



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Posted 13 January 2018 - 09:39 PM

Yes awesome wasn’t good and helping mod but brung to head an old mod and now look at it lol

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:10 PM

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Seige Captain and Seige Marines.

 

Tech tree coming along, but lots to do.


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Posted 13 January 2018 - 11:50 PM

Those IF shots... those you took in-game of yours?

 

Once you get a build, I'll have to check all the back-end stuff so no console or art/design/sound message issues. Try to be 100% clean and exclusive -- if you cannot, I can help like I did for all your projects! :cool:

 

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 12:51 AM

That Siege Master is interesting. Just with that gear piece he got personality. I see that this guy has an interesting ability in the TT which consists in assigning bonuses to squads. Quoting from 1d4chan on him: 

 

 

 

His options are similar to a captain's, except that he doesn't get terminator armour. His main difference (other than default wargear) is the ability to give any unit in the army either furious charge, tank hunters, interceptors or monster hunters for the whole game.

 

I don't know if this can be fulfilled to some degree by targeting squads with a perma-bonus of choice,  or just going with the usual squad bonus when attached.

 

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These siege marines are cool but I think that if they're going to replace the assault marines, they need both ranged and melee weapons. Fortunately the model which is used for them has these weapons, but not sure if they are applied to the right hand. Also repaint that helmet with the rest of the body, they're not so special.

 

Still the tactical marines need some kind of big shield as a last tier upgrade but I think this is something to carefully plan because the animations of the model may prevent a good attachement.

 

Now I've seen that the LR Prometheus is an option for the "siege army". But reminder that IF favorite LR is the Achilles, which hasn't been featured yet. Two options of LR? Not too bad as a choice indeed.

 

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Another peculiarity if they go full siege tactics is that the basic troops do not deepstrike from drop pods, althought terminators can. They are more of a foot slogging army.

 

Siege marines are so bulky that only fit in a LR it seems.

 

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The librarian specific powers as described in Deathwatch rites of battle, may be handy to get some character to him. Pick three as usual?

 

 


The Golden Son: The Librarian is transformed into a radiant figure suffused with the power and nobility of Rogal Dorn. Friends witness a glorious sight not seen since Rogal Dorn himself walked amongst Men, while enemies see the fiery harbinger of their doom. 

Into the Crucible: The Librarian calls upon the spirits of all those Imperial Fists who gave their lives at their Primarch’s side during the battle of the Iron Cage. The blows of his enemies are turned aside or healed by the incarnate force of his ancestors. 

Noble Praetorian: Reaching into his soul and his genetic inheritance, the Librarian channels a portion of Dorn’s noble spirit, making himself a champion of the weak and a defender of the just. 

Stonebane: The Librarian channels the will of Dorn into an attack so terrible that no wall or fortification will be left standing. The ground quakes, the skies darken and the air itself screams as a mighty etheric hammer manifests itself in the Librarian’s grip. 

Ultimate Sacrifice: The Librarian channels the selfless spirit of the Imperial Fists into himself, causing fate to deliver blows meant for his fellows to strike him instead. 

Wave of Penance: The Librarian reaches into the ether and draws forth all of the pain suffered by his ancestors in the self-imposed atonement of the pain-glove and a hundred other such rituals. In an instant, ten thousand years of penance is unleashed upon his foes, every iota of pain ever felt by the Chapter turned back upon its foes in an unstoppable blast wave.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:02 AM

UM has a full Achilles complete and in-game. :)


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:15 AM

I have seen the lr Achilles in more the um I believe

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:20 AM

Yep... it is in others although one in UM looks and plays as complete but, oddly, no Reinforced Armour or HK Missile Wargear even though it looks in the whe. Could not invoke it in the AE like I could others. :thumbsdownsmiley:


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