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[Super Hippo]

Hello,

the main reason I started to mod recently was to give Mordor a bit more interesting heroes. I already found a few threads about this topic in this forum (mainly BFME2). For example:

https://forums.revor...llbeast-solved/ (especially #4, but I don't know what I do wrong)

https://forums.revor...raith-in-bfme2/ (solution was given via PM in the end, not in the thread)

 

However, I feel like I don't entirely understand the "engine" of the game. (See Question 1 for example)

 

(I use BFME 1 with patch 1.03 and mod with the -mod command.)

 

I want to use one object for it, so the health isn't replenished whenever I (dis)mount the fellbeast...

 

What I did so far:

- nazgûl on foot (model+animations) -- used the one from the fellbeast, removed the fellbeast and voilà

- nazgûl on horse (model+animations) -- used normal horse model and edit a texture to get a black horse, then put the nazgûl on this horse

- toggle between both (Not working perfectly. I am not sure why the horse is not fading in when toggling while the rider is... but I can live with that for now.)

 

What I can't achieve:

- mount a fellbeast

- housecolors (I have no clue how a TGA file works. It can be applied to a model, but how does it know where each part of the image belongs to?) -- but the mounting problem is more important for now 

 

(Question 1:) What exactly is the line "FlagsUsedForToggle" doing in a definition of a commandbutton? What I thought it should do is that whenever I use the command, it switches the flags (booleans?) listed in that line from TRUE to FALSE and the other way around. So when I put in "MOUNTED", this flag will be true when I mount and false when I dismount. And based on that flag, I can use the correct models, animations, armors, commandsets… However, replacing the "MOUNTED" with another flag doesn't have the effect that it should. It still toggles the "MOUNTED" flag and the model and animations are picked accordingly. So no matter which button I press, it toggles between foot and horse.

 

My thought-process here:

- there are three different states (foot/horse/fellbeast)

- there are three different transitions (foot-horse / foot-fellbeast / horse-fellbeast) -- each for both directions

- I can use two flags to pick the correct model/animation (will be called "f1" and "f2" here, are actually MOUNTED + something else (which is WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1 currently but that also results in another problem, see next paragraph below)

--- foot: f1 false, f2 false --> default

--- horse: f1 true, f2 false

--- fellbeast: f1 false, f2 true

- in the transitions, I toggle the flags

--- foot to horse: f1

--- foot to fellbeast: f2

--- horse to fellbeast: f1 and f2

 

 

I put all the animation code from the fellbeasts found in nazgul.ini and added it to my object. In the condition line of each animation (and the model condition state), I added "f2" (see above). When I use WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1 as "f2" here, then the game doesn't launch because it won't pick an armor based on this weapon set toggle variable (which makes sense I guess) [Errormessage: Token 'WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1' is not a valid member of the index list]

(Question 2:) Is there a "MOUNTED_2" or something like that? And what do I have to do to make it work in a command like the toggle mounted?

If the answer to Question 1 is that the flags are somehow the condition and not what will actually toggle, then how can I make a special power (or find if there is already one) which toggles a different flag than "MOUNTED" which can also be used for everything needed (modelcondition state, animations, weapon set, armor set)?

 

(Question 3): Or is my thought process completely wrong and it has to be done differently?

 

 

Here are the (I think) relevant parts of the code (tell me if I missed something):

 

 

 

specialpower.ini

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;-- Copies of SpecialAbilityToggleMounted with different names

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SpecialPower SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToHorse
	Enum			= SPECIAL_TOGGLE_MOUNTED;	; Why do you need an enum for an ini defined class? 
	; Answer: Because it's used by SpecialAbilityUpdate so it can do different things based on the "type" of special ability.
	ReloadTime        = 1000
	PublicTimer       = No
End
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SpecialPower SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToFellbeast
	Enum			= SPECIAL_TOGGLE_MOUNTED;	; Why do you need an enum for an ini defined class? 
	; Answer: Because it's used by SpecialAbilityUpdate so it can do different things based on the "type" of special ability.
	ReloadTime        = 1000
	PublicTimer       = No
End

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SpecialPower SpecialAbilityToggleMountedHorseToFellbeast
	Enum			= SPECIAL_TOGGLE_MOUNTED;	; Why do you need an enum for an ini defined class? 
	; Answer: Because it's used by SpecialAbilityUpdate so it can do different things based on the "type" of special ability.
	ReloadTime        = 1000
	PublicTimer       = No
End

commandset.ini

(I didn't find a working way to change the commandset when mounting yet which will be next on the list after it is possible to mount the fellbeast at all. That's why there are some of Eowyn's commands in there.)

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CommandSet MordorRingWraithCommandSetFoot
  1 = Command_EowynSmite  
  ;2 = Command_Disguise
  ;3 = Command_EowynShieldMaiden
  	5 = Command_MountRingWraithFootToHorse
	6 = Command_MountRingWraithFootToFellbeast
	13 = Command_AttackMove
	14 = Command_Stop
        15 = Command_Guard
End

CommandSet MordorRingWraithCommandSetHorse
  ;1 = Command_EowynSmite  
  2 = Command_Disguise
  ;3 = Command_EowynShieldMaiden
  	5 = Command_MountRingWraithFootToHorse
	6 = Command_MountRingWraithHorseToFellbeast
	13 = Command_AttackMove
	14 = Command_Stop
        15 = Command_Guard
End

CommandSet MordorRingWraithCommandSetFellbeast
  ;1 = Command_EowynSmite  
  ;2 = Command_Disguise
  3 = Command_EowynShieldMaiden
  	5 = Command_MountRingWraithHorseToFellbeast
	6 = Command_MountRingWraithFootToFellbeast
	13 = Command_AttackMove
	14 = Command_Stop
        15 = Command_Guard
End

commandbutton.ini

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CommandButton Command_MountRingWraithFootToHorse
  Command               = SPECIAL_POWER
  SpecialPower          = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToHorse
  TextLabel             = CONTROLBAR:RingWraithMountFootToHorse
  Options		= TOGGLE_IMAGE_ON_WEAPONSET ON_GROUND_ONLY     ; -- not exactly sure what this is by the way
  FlagsUsedForToggle	= MOUNTED
  ButtonImage           = HSMountHorse HSMountFoot
  ButtonBorderType      = ACTION 
  DescriptLabel         = CONTROLBAR:ToolTipRingWraithMountFootToHorse
  InPalantir            = Yes  
  UnitSpecificSound     = FellBeastAlert	;EowynVoiceModeMount		EowynVoiceModeFoot	; Sound when mounting / unmounting
  ;UnitSpecificSound2	= HorseWhinnyForMountButton	UnmountButtonFoley
End

CommandButton Command_MountRingWraithFootToFellbeast
  Command               = SPECIAL_POWER
  SpecialPower          = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToFellbeast
  TextLabel             = CONTROLBAR:RingWraithMountFootToFellbeast
  Options		= TOGGLE_IMAGE_ON_WEAPONSET ON_GROUND_ONLY
  FlagsUsedForToggle	= WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
  ButtonImage           = HSMountFellbeast HSMountFoot	;HSTheodenWarSpeech HSTheodenWarSpeech
  ButtonBorderType      = ACTION 
  DescriptLabel         = CONTROLBAR:ToolTipRingWraithMountFootToFellbeast
  InPalantir            = Yes  
  UnitSpecificSound     = FellBeastAlert	;EowynVoiceModeMount		EowynVoiceModeFoot	; Sound when mounting / unmounting
  ;UnitSpecificSound2	= HorseWhinnyForMountButton	UnmountButtonFoley
End

CommandButton Command_MountRingWraithHorseToFellbeast
  Command               = SPECIAL_POWER
  SpecialPower          = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedHorseToFellbeast
  TextLabel             = CONTROLBAR:RingWraithMountHorseToFellbeast
  Options		= TOGGLE_IMAGE_ON_WEAPONSET ON_GROUND_ONLY
  FlagsUsedForToggle	= MOUNTED WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
  ButtonImage           = HSMountFellbeast HSMountHorse	;HSTheodenWarSpeech HSTheodenWarSpeech
  ButtonBorderType      = ACTION 
  DescriptLabel         = CONTROLBAR:ToolTipRingWraithMountHorseToFellbeast
  InPalantir            = Yes  
  UnitSpecificSound     = FellBeastAlert	;EowynVoiceModeMount		EowynVoiceModeFoot	; Sound when mounting / unmounting
  ;UnitSpecificSound2	= HorseWhinnyForMountButton	UnmountButtonFoley
End

ringwraith.ini

(moved it out of nazgul.ini to have a file for its own -- no difference when it is in)

(the behaviors for the buttons are at the very bottom)

(I did something similar to the weaponset than what I have for the armorset… I guess it was removed when I needed to go back to an earlier state of my mod)

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    Draw = W3DScriptedModelDraw ModuleTag_DRAW
        
        
        
        [...]
        
        
        
        DefaultModelConditionState
            Model = MUNzgFt_SKN
            Skeleton = MUNzgFt_SKL
        End
        ModelConditionState = WORLD_BUILDER
            Model = MUNzgFt_SKN
            Skeleton = MUNzgFt_SKL
        End
        
        ModelConditionState = MOUNTED
            Model    =    MUNzgHrs_SKN
            Skeleton = MUNzgHrs_SKL
            ;WeaponLaunchBone    = PRIMARY PASSENGERBONE
        End
            
        ModelConditionState = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
            Model = CUFellBst_SKN
            ;WeaponLaunchBone = PRIMARY BAT_TOER1
        End
        
        



        ; -- MOUNTED on Fellbeast --
        
        IdleAnimationState = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
            StateName = Idle
            Animation = IDLA
                AnimationName = CUFellBst_SKL.CUFellBst_HVRA
                AnimationMode = LOOP
                AnimationBlendTime = 10
                AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.95 1.05
            End
        End

         AnimationState    = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1 BACKING_UP
               StateName = backup
               Animation = IDLA
                   AnimationName = CUFellBst_SKL.CUFellBst_HVRA
                   AnimationMode = LOOP
                   AnimationBlendTime = 10
                AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.95 1.05
               End
           End
        
        
        
        [...]
        
        
        
        ; -- MOUNTED on Horse --


	

        AnimationState                = MOUNTED DEBUG  ;shift delete to trigger
            Animation
                AnimationName       = MUNzgHrs_IDLA      
                AnimationMode       = ONCE
            End
            ParticleSysBone = BAT_HHEAD glowHorseGold FollowBone:Yes            
            ParticleSysBone = B_HHIPL glowHorseRearGold FollowBone:Yes
            ParticleSysBone = BAT_SPINE2 glowGold FollowBone:Yes            
        End
        
        
        
        
        ; --- stunned anims
        AnimationState                =    MOUNTED FREEFALL 
            Animation                =    freefall
                AnimationName        =    MUNzgHrs_FLYA
                AnimationMode        =    LOOP
            End
            Flags                    =    RANDOMSTART
        End
        
        
        
        [...]
        
        
        
	; -- Unmounted --





        ; --- Idle Anims
        IdleAnimationState
            StateName                =    BORED
            Animation                =    IDLA
                AnimationName        =    MUNzgFt_IDLA
                AnimationMode        =    ONCE
                ;AnimationPriority    =    1
            End
            Animation                =    IDLB
                AnimationName        =    MUNzgFt_IDLB1
                AnimationMode        =    ONCE
                ;AnimationPriority    =    1
            End
            Animation                =    IDLD
                AnimationName        =    MUNzgFt_IDLD
                AnimationMode        =    ONCE
                ;AnimationPriority    =    1
            End
            Animation                =    IDLE
                AnimationName        =    MUNzgFt_IDLE
                AnimationMode        =    ONCE
                ;AnimationPriority    =    1
            End
            Flags                =    RESTART_ANIM_WHEN_COMPLETE
            BeginScript
                Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
                if Prev == "SELECTED"    then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Transition_SelectedToBored") end
                if Prev == "READY"        then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Transition_ReadyToBored") end
            EndScript
        End
        
        AnimationState                =    FREEFALL 
            Animation                =    freefall
                AnimationName        =    MUNzgFt_FLYA
                AnimationMode        =    LOOP
            End
            Flags                    =    RANDOMSTART
        End
        
        
        
        [...]
        
        
        
    End ; Draw
        
        
        
        [...]
        
        
        
     WeaponSet
        Conditions        = None 
        Weapon            = PRIMARY   RingWraithSword
        AutoChooseSources    = PRIMARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT FROM_AI
        
        ;Weapon            = PRIMARY        RingWraithSword ;NazgulPlowAttack
        ;PreferredAgainst    = PRIMARY        STRUCTURE MACHINE HORDE

        ;Weapon            = SECONDARY        RingWraithSword ;NazgulGrabAttack
        ;PreferredAgainst    = SECONDARY        INFANTRY THROWN_OBJECT CAVALRY

        ;Weapon            = TERTIARY        RingWraithSword ;NazgulClawAttack
        ;OnlyAgainst        = TERTIARY        MONSTER
     End


    

      ArmorSet
        Conditions      = None
        Armor           = HeroArmor
        DamageFX        = NormalDamageFX
      End

      ArmorSet
        Conditions      = MOUNTED
        Armor           = HeroArmorMounted
        DamageFX        = NormalDamageFX
      End

;      ArmorSet
;        Conditions      = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1 ; -- CRASH when not commented out
;        Armor           = NazgulArmor
;        DamageFX        = FellBeastDamageFX
;      End
        
        
        


        [...]
        
        
        


    ; -- Toggle between Foot, Horse and Fellbeast --



     Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_HorseToggleStarter
         SpecialPowerTemplate      = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToHorse
         UpdateModuleStartsAttack  = Yes
         ;InitiateSound           = 
         StartsPaused = Yes
     End

     Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_FellbeastToggleStarter
         SpecialPowerTemplate      = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToFellbeast
         UpdateModuleStartsAttack  = Yes
         ;InitiateSound           = 
         StartsPaused = Yes
     End

     Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_FellbeastToggleStarter2
         SpecialPowerTemplate      = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedHorseToFellbeast
         UpdateModuleStartsAttack  = Yes
         ;InitiateSound           = 
         StartsPaused = Yes
     End






    Behavior = UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade ModuleTag_HorseEnabler
        SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToHorse
        TriggeredBy = Upgrade_MountRingWraithHorse
    End
    
    Behavior = UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade ModuleTag_FellbeastEnabler
        SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToFellbeast
        TriggeredBy = Upgrade_MountRingWraithFellbeast
    End

    Behavior = UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade ModuleTag_FellbeastEnabler2
        SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedHorseToFellbeast
        TriggeredBy = Upgrade_MountRingWraithFellbeast
    End





    Behavior = ToggleMountedSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_HorseToggle
         SpecialPowerTemplate    = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToHorse
         UnpackTime              = 2000
         PreparationTime         = 1  
         PersistentPrepTime      = 250
         PackTime                = 2000    
         OpacityTarget            = .3        ; How see-thru to be at peak of change
         AwardXPForTriggering    = 0
        ;CancelDisguiseWhenDismounting = Yes   
    End

    Behavior = ToggleMountedSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_FellbeastToggle
         SpecialPowerTemplate    = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedFootToFellbeast
         UnpackTime              = 2000
         PreparationTime         = 1  
         PersistentPrepTime      = 250
         PackTime                = 2000    
         OpacityTarget            = .3        ; How see-thru to be at peak of change
         AwardXPForTriggering    = 0
        ;CancelDisguiseWhenDismounting = Yes   
    End

    Behavior = ToggleMountedSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_FellbeastToggle2
         SpecialPowerTemplate    = SpecialAbilityToggleMountedHorseToFellbeast
         UnpackTime              = 2000
         PreparationTime         = 1  
         PersistentPrepTime      = 250
         PackTime                = 2000    
         OpacityTarget            = .3        ; How see-thru to be at peak of change
         AwardXPForTriggering    = 0
        ;CancelDisguiseWhenDismounting = Yes   
    End

upgrade.ini

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Upgrade Upgrade_MountRingWraithHorse
	Type			= OBJECT
End

Upgrade Upgrade_MountRingWraithFellbeast
	Type			= OBJECT
End

experiencelevels.ini

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ExperienceLevel	RingWraithLevel3
	TargetNames					= 	MordorRingWraith
	RequiredExperience				= 	3;300
	ExperienceAward		  			=	100	
	AttributeModifiers				= 	HeroLevelUpDamage2
	Rank						= 	3
	Upgrades					=	Upgrade_MountRingWraithHorse
	LevelUpFx				  	=	FX:GandalfLevelUp1FX
	SelectionDecal
		Texture					= 	decal_hero_evil
		Style					=	SHADOW_ALPHA_DECAL
		OpacityMin			  	=	50%	
		OpacityMax			  	=	100%
		MinRadius				= 	40
		MaxRadius				= 	200
		MaxSelectedUnits			= 	40
	End	
END

[...]

ExperienceLevel	RingWraithLevel7
	TargetNames					= 	MordorRingWraith
	RequiredExperience				= 	7;2100
	ExperienceAward		  			=	300	
	AttributeModifiers				= 	HeroLevelUpDamage6
	Rank						= 	7
	Upgrades					=	Upgrade_MountRingWraithFellbeast
	LevelUpFx				 	=	FX:GandalfLevelUp1FX
	SelectionDecal
		Texture					= 	decal_hero_evil
		Style					=	SHADOW_ALPHA_DECAL
		OpacityMin			  	=	50%	
		OpacityMax			  	=	100%
		MinRadius				= 	40
		MaxRadius				= 	200
		MaxSelectedUnits			= 	40
	End	
END	

I hope someone can help me with this 

Edited by Super Hippo, 03 February 2019 - 10:55 PM.

[Echo]

First of all, hi and welcome

I really do not want to put your hopes down, but BFME 1's engine is a lot more limited to BFME 2's/ROTWK's. Many people (including also really skilled coders) have tried to implement a toggle for the Fellbeast in BFME 1 before, but no one has really achieved anything yet. And I'm not talking about the 3-step toggle, I'm just talking about the Fellbeast - on foot toggle. BFME 1's engine seems to have a problem with this transition. I also have investigated for a long time, but I gave up at some point and just decided that my witchking will be unmounted instead.

 

A lot of attempts have also been made to switch it in 2 separate files, and upon button click just kill the objects and spawn new ones. That is problematic because not only can you avoid certain death by just switching states (you get your health back every time), but you can also not maintain rank information upon killing and transfer it to the new object. Another person attempted to do it via Eowyn disguise ability, but I can't remember how that went. Elvenstar Mod managed to make the Witchking switch and maintain some of the information of the animation states, but altogether it was still pretty bugged.

What I suggest you if you want to stay with it (Trying is never wrong, I myself tried a lot of stuff regarding this): Start small. Just try to make the switch between Fellbeast and On-foot work in BFME 1 properly, and you will be a hero for every BFME 1 modder. Once you achieve that, the rest shouldn't be difficult either.

 

EA implemented the MountedTemplate in BFME 2, probably just to make this toggle work properly. There seems to be something that restrained even EA itself from implementing the toggle from foot to air in the classic way. Anyway, it doesn't mean that there is no workaround. I think a good start would be to compare for example Eomer to the fellbeast object, and try to mount and dismount him regularly. Look especially at the GiantBirdAIUpdate and the RiderChangeContain behavior, as these two are the only behaviors that are different between Eomer and the fellbeast (or rather they are unique to the fellbeast/eagles), and it might play a crucial role in the strange toggle behavior.

And no, there does not seem to be a MOUNTED_2 state. Also the FlagsUsedForToggle thing doesn't seem to help. This is a quote from one of EA's coders:

 

 

FlagsUsedForToggle = MOUNTED ;What we really want is to toggle Theoden's audio if he is mounted or unmounted. Ya, this is a hack

 

So I suppose it just lets the game know which audio to use, or maybe even just changes the weaponset or armorset. Never looked to much into it but it doesn't look like it's really necessary for the power to work.

Don't worry, BFME 1's engine confuses all. Sometimes I really wonder why I mod BFME 1 and not BFME 2... but there are good sides in both games. Anyway, feel free to come back with more questions if you have, I'm also still somewhat interested in this ability. But it just took too many of my nerves. 

Edited by Echo, 30 January 2019 - 01:23 AM.

[Super Hippo]

Hi Echo,

thank you for your reply! It gave me some hope. Even though it isn't exactly what I was hoping for.

 

I just tried two things. First was that I gave the MOUNTED flag of the animations to the fellbeast instead of the horse… but I must have messed something up because the game crashed when I build a nazgul even when I reset the nazgul/ringwraith object to the original… Need to investigate.

 

Second was that I tried to restart from the original files and make the nazgul dismount his fellbeast and mount a horse instead, using a normal mount toggle. (Shouldn't matter if I toggle to foot or horse. Used horse so I already have the "MOUNTED" flag on the animations.) What happened was that the sound was playing, it faded out, it faded back in and it was the same as before. Now I used "RIDER2 MOUNTED" in the ModelConditionState and it changes from fellbeast to horse, but it is still flying, moving and attacking like a fellbeast. Somehow it is using different animations/AnimationStates than a "normal" unit, I guess. But I don't have an idea what is causing it to use a different one.

In the locomotor.ini, the locomotors have a "Surfaces" line [GROUND / AIR] (and a lot more information I am not familiar with), so I thought that this might be causing this problem. Adding another Locomotorset for the mounted state didn't change anything though:

	LocomotorSet
		Locomotor = HeroHorseLocomotor
		Condition = SET_MOUNTED 
		Speed     = 2000 ;90 --- high speed to see the difference immediately (if there would be a difference)
	End	

Short question here: Why is it SET_MOUNTED in the Locomotors while it is MOUNTED for animations?

 

To the extra behaviors… The fellbeast is like a "Transport" (see RiderChangeContain-Bevavior), but I have no clue how the transport can be left. (I only see the ExitTransportOnDeath.) This behavior is the same for the ringwraith/witchking except for the InitialCrew.

 

The fellbeast has "ThingClass = LARGE_MONSTER" (Eomer doesn't, but both have 1 Transport_Slot) which might also become a problem because I don't see a way to toggle it. (Or it is also a large monster when not on the fellbeast. Not too sure if it matters at all)

 

I never played BFME 2 and I also don't own it so I don't have the witchking code to check it is done there.

 

The main problem I see when trying to implement something is that I don't know which behaviors exist, how each behavior is working exactly and not even when they are called. Some (like UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade) have a TriggeredBy-line which makes it quite obvious. But for example the "RiderChangeContain"-behavior doesn't have a line like this, so maybe it is only executed once at the beginning when the object is created, but if there isn't a way to change the rider in the middle of the game, then "InitialCrew" and listing more than one possible rider seem odd. Despite the fact that the name "...Change..." suggests that it would be used to change the rider.

 

But in the end, I have the feeling that it is impossible when it was tried by a lot of people and all of them failed. 

[Echo]

As I said, don't focus too much on the fellbeast-horse-foot version, just try the fellbeast-foot for now. Once you figure something out concerning that, the other mount really should not be a problem - regular mounting is not too difficult to achieve.

 

I don't know why EA varied between MOUNTED in the Model Condition and SET_MOUNTED in the locomotor/weapon sets, it seems to just be a design choice by them. They're linked though. I also feel like the "ToggleMountedSpecialAbilityUpdate" is directly linked to these conditions, and triggers the actual MOUNTED model condition. 

I understand what you mean, it truly is confusing which behavior takes certain components and which doesn't. I'm still not familiar with all of them after gathering a lot of modding experience. But this is also part of the fun and challenges to overcome. BFME2/ROTWK allows the WK to dismount through a "MountedTemplate", which is basically just transferring the Witch-kings current information (health, cooldowns, experience) to the unmounted Witch-king, and vice-versa. This is not really of any concern because it doesn't work in BFME 1 unfortunately. 

 

I would actually not worry too much about the ChangeRiderContain module. It seems like if you split The WitchKing and the Fellbeast in 2 individual Objects (without inheritance from the other), you can leave it out for the start. I will also take a look at this ability, maybe I can figure something out. Another thing to keep in mind is that the Witch-king's original scale (fellbeast) is 0.8, while the unmounted Witch-king is a really tiny object even without scale. So you'll either end up with a really tiny unmounted Witch-king, or a gigantic Witch-king on its fellbeast.

 

 

Edit: So I've reached this state:

The Witch-king uses the unmounted animations flawlessly, but the problem is indeed the GiantBiardAIUpdate thing. An AIUpdate is directly connected to the locomotor set, so if you remove the GiantBirdUpdate, you also remove some functionality of the unit itself. And if you leave the GiantBirdAIUpdate in, it will trigger the mounted/air locomotor automatically and in this case the WK goes cray cray. So for now, I took the GiantBirdAIUpdate out. The Mounted version of the Witchking therefore does the animations nearly flawlessly, but it's not moving

 

I went into the locomotor, removed GIANT_BIRD and now he's moving, but no longer playing the attack animation. And on Osgiliath he's really struggling with the bridge.

 

if you (or anyone else) want to check what I have, it's here:

Witchking code:

 

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;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;
; WitchKingMounted.ini
;
; - Reduced to only the most necessary behaviors, to improve testing
;
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; aka Witch King, WitchKingMordor
Object MordorWitchKingMounted                         ;BALANCE WitchKing 
; *** ART Parameters ***
 
    ; SelectPortrait for Heros is portrait behind skill buttons. HP = HeroPortrait.
SelectPortrait = HPWitchKing
    
    ; ButtonImage for Heros is button image on Hero Select UI to select hero. HI = HeroIcon or HeroImage.
    ButtonImage = HIWitchKing
 
Draw = W3DScriptedModelDraw ModuleTag_01
 
  OkToChangeModelColor = Yes
  
GlowEnabled = Yes;  
GlowEmissive = No
ExtraPublicBone = B_PASSENGER
 
OkToChangeModelColor = Yes
       
;   StaticModelLODMode = Yes
 
DefaultModelConditionState
Model               = MUWchKng_SKN
Skeleton = MUWchKng_SKL
End 
 
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
IdleAnimationState
StateName = STATE_Idle
Animation
AnimationName       = MUWchKng_IDLB1
AnimationPriority = 1
AnimationBlendTime = 15
AnimationMode       = ONCE
End
; Animation
; AnimationName       = MUWchKng_IDLC
; AnimationPriority = 1
; AnimationBlendTime = 15
; AnimationMode       = ONCE
; End
Animation
AnimationName       = MUWchKng_IDLD
AnimationPriority = 1
AnimationBlendTime = 15
AnimationMode       = ONCE
End
Animation
AnimationName       = MUWchKng_IDLE
AnimationPriority = 1
AnimationBlendTime = 15
AnimationMode       = ONCE
End
Flags = RESTART_ANIM_WHEN_COMPLETE 
BeginScript
Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
if Prev == "STATE_Selected" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("TRANS_Selected_to_Idle") end
EndScript 
End
 
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
ModelConditionState = MOUNTED
Model = MUWchKngFB_SKN
Skeleton = CUFellBst_SKL
WeaponLaunchBone = PRIMARY BAT_TOER1
End 
 
  AnimationState = BACKING_UP MOUNTED
    StateName = backup
    Animation = IDLA
    AnimationName = CUFellBst_HVRA
    AnimationMode = LOOP
    AnimationBlendTime = 10
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.95 1.05
    End
    End
   
    AnimationState = DIVING MOUNTED
    StateName = Diving
    Animation = Diving
    AnimationName = CUFellBst_ATKD
    AnimationMode = LOOP
    AnimationBlendTime = 10
  AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.95 1.05
   End
    End
 
 
 
AnimationState = ABOUT_TO_HIT MOUNTED ; clawing
StateName = Claw
Animation = Claw
AnimationName = CUFellBst_ATKD
AnimationMode = LOOP
AnimationBlendTime = 10
End
    BeginScript
  CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Trans_Begin_Attacking") return 
  EndScript
 
End
TransitionState = Trans_Begin_Attacking 
StateName = Grab
Animation = Grab
AnimationName = CUFellBst_GRBA
AnimationMode = ONCE
AnimationBlendTime = 10
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.4 0.4
End
End
 
 
 
    AnimationState  STUNNED SPECIAL_DAMAGED MOUNTED
StateName =  STUNNED
Animation = HitA
AnimationName = CUFellBst_ATKH
AnimationMode = ONCE
AnimationBlendTime = 6
End
End
    AnimationState  STUNNED MOUNTED
StateName =  STUNNED
Animation = HitA
AnimationName = CUFellBst_HITA
AnimationMode = ONCE
AnimationBlendTime = 6
End
End
 
 
;--- HARD FLAPPING ------------------------
AnimationState = CLIMBING MOUNTED
StateName = Climbing
Animation = Moving
AnimationName = CUFellBst_HVRB
AnimationMode = LOOP
AnimationBlendTime = 10
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.95 1.05
End
End
AnimationState = FREEFALL MOUNTED
StateName = Freefall
Animation = Moving
AnimationName = CUFellBst_IDLA
AnimationMode = LOOP
AnimationBlendTime = 10
End
End
 
AnimationState = MOVING SPECIAL_WEAPON_ONE MOUNTED
StateName = Moving
Animation = Moving
AnimationName = CUFellBst_ATKB
AnimationMode = LOOP
AnimationBlendTime = 10
End
    BeginScript
  Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
  if Prev == "Idle" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Trans_Begin_Moving") return end
  if Prev == "Climbing" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Trans_Begin_Moving") return end
  EndScript
    End
 
AnimationState = MOVING MOUNTED
StateName = Moving
Animation = Moving
AnimationName = CUFellBst_FLYA
AnimationMode = LOOP
AnimationBlendTime = 10
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.9 1.1
End
    BeginScript
  Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
  if Prev == "Idle" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Trans_Begin_Moving") return end
  if Prev == "Climbing" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("Trans_Begin_Moving") return end
  EndScript
    End
 
        TransitionState = Trans_Begin_Moving
    Animation = Transition
    AnimationName = CUFellBst_HVRC
    AnimationMode = ONCE
    AnimationBlendTime = 6
    End  
    End
 
AnimationState = RUBBLE MOUNTED
Animation = RubbleDieF
 
AnimationName = CUFellBst_DIVA
AnimationMode = ONCE
AnimationBlendTime = 4
End
End
 
   AnimationState = DYING MOUNTED
  Animation = DyingA
AnimationName = CUFellBst_HVRC
   AnimationMode = LOOP
   AnimationBlendTime = 10
                AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.5 0.5
   End
   StateName = DYING
End
 
AnimationState = MOUNTED
StateName = Idle
Animation = IDLA
AnimationName = CUFellBst_HVRA
AnimationMode = LOOP
AnimationBlendTime = 10
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.95 1.05
End
End
 
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AnimationState        = MOVING WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
StateName = STATE_Mace
Animation           = RUNA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_RUNB
AnimationMode     = LOOP
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableShowSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
Flags               = RANDOMSTART
ParticleSysBone     = None InfantryDustTrails
End
 
AnimationState        = MOVING
Animation           = RUNB
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_RUNA
AnimationMode     = LOOP
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
Flags               = RANDOMSTART
ParticleSysBone     = None InfantryDustTrails
End
 
AnimationState        = USER_1 WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
Animation           = DIEA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_DIEB
AnimationMode     = ONCE
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
AnimationState        = USER_1
Animation           = DIEA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_DIEA
AnimationMode     = ONCE
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
AnimationState        = DYING WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
Animation           = DIEA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_DIEB
AnimationMode     = ONCE
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
AnimationState        = DYING
Animation           = DIEA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_DIEA
AnimationMode     = ONCE
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
AnimationState = STUNNED 
Animation           = LNDA
AnimationName   = MUWchKng_LNDA
AnimationMode   = ONCE
End
End
 
AnimationState = STUNNED_STANDING_UP
Animation           = GTPA
AnimationName   = MUWchKng_GTPA
AnimationMode   = ONCE
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 1.5 1.5
End
End
 
;War Mace
 
AnimationState        =  FIRING_OR_PREATTACK_A WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
StateName = STATE_Mace
Animation           = ATA1
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_ATKC
AnimationMode     = ONCE
UseWeaponTiming = No
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 1.111 1.111
End
Animation           = ATB1
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_ATKD
AnimationMode     = ONCE
UseWeaponTiming = No
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 1.5 1.5
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableShowSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
Flags = RESTART_ANIM_WHEN_COMPLETE
End
 
;AnimationState        = ATTACKING WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
; StateName = STATE_Mace
; Animation           = ALERT_1
; AnimationName     = MUWchKng_IDLC
; AnimationMode     = LOOP
; AnimationPriority = 10
; End
; BeginScript
; CurDrawableShowSubObject("MACE")
; EndScript
;End
 
;Morgul Blade
AnimationState        =  FIRING_OR_PREATTACK_A
Animation           = ATA1
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_ATKA
AnimationMode     = ONCE
UseWeaponTiming = Yes
End
Animation           = ATB1
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_ATKB
AnimationMode     = ONCE
UseWeaponTiming = Yes
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
AnimationState        = BETWEEN_FIRING_SHOTS_A
Animation           = ALERT_1
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_IDLA
AnimationMode     = LOOP
AnimationPriority = 10
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
 
 
TransitionState       = TRANS_IdleToSelected
Animation           = ATNA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_ATNA
AnimationMode     = ONCE
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.7 1.3
 
End
End
 
TransitionState       = TRANS_SelectedToMace
Animation           = ATNA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_STHA
AnimationMode     = ONCE
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.7 1.3
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableShowSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
TransitionState       = TRANS_MaceToSelected
Animation           = ATNA
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_STHB
AnimationMode     = ONCE
AnimationSpeedFactorRange = 0.7 1.3
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableShowSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
AnimationState = WAR_CHANT
Animation = Chant
AnimationName = MUWchKng_CHRA
AnimationMode = LOOP
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
End
 
 
AnimationState = EMOTION_CELEBRATING
Animation           = CHRA
AnimationName   =  MUWchKng_CHRA
AnimationMode   = ONCE
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
Flags = RESTART_ANIM_WHEN_COMPLETE
End
 
AnimationState        = EMOTION_ALERT
Animation           = ALERT_1
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_IDLA
AnimationMode     = ONCE
AnimationPriority = 10
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
EndScript
Flags               = RESTART_ANIM_WHEN_COMPLETE ; acts like an idle animation & keeps running the animations.
End
 
AnimationState        = SELECTED WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
StateName           = STATE_Mace
Animation           = ATNB
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_IDLC
AnimationMode     = LOOP
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableShowSubObject("MACE")
Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
if Prev == "STATE_Selected" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("TRANS_SelectedToMace") end
EndScript
End
 
 
AnimationState        = SELECTED
StateName           = STATE_Selected
Animation           = ATNB
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_ATNB
AnimationMode     = LOOP
End
BeginScript
CurDrawableHideSubObject("MACE")
Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
if Prev == "STATE_Idle" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("TRANS_IdleToSelected") end
if Prev == "STATE_Mace" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("TRANS_MaceToSelected") end
EndScript
End
 
AnimationState        = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1
StateName           = STATE_Mace
Animation           = ATNB
AnimationName     = MUWchKng_IDLC
AnimationMode     = LOOP
End
BeginScript
Prev = CurDrawablePrevAnimationState()
if Prev == "STATE_Idle" then CurDrawableSetTransitionAnimState("TRANS_IdleToSelected") end
EndScript
End
End
 
; ***DESIGN parameters ***
Side = Mordor
EditorSorting = UNIT
ThreatLevel = 4.0 ; 5.0
; ThingClass = CHARACTER_UNIT
BuildCost         = 100 ; LOT3A_WITCHKING_BUILDCOST 
BuildTime         = 2 ; LOT3A_WITCHKING_BUILDTIME 
TransportSlotCount = 1
CommandSet = MordorWitchKingMountedCommandSet
CommandPoints = 0
 
VisionRange = LOT3A_VISION_STANDARD_MELEE
ShroudClearingRange = LOT3A_SHROUD_CLEAR_STANDARD
BountyValue = LOT3A_MORDOR_WITCHKING_BOUNTY_VALUE
 
DisplayName = OBJECT:MordorWitchKing
RecruitText = CONTROLBAR:MordorWitchKingRecruit
ReviveText = CONTROLBAR:MordorWitchKingRevive
Hotkey = CONTROLBAR:MordorWitchKingHotkey
 
CrushableLevel = 2  ;What am I?:        0 = for infantry, 1 = for trees, 2 = general vehicles
RamPower = 30;
RamZMult = 0.5;
    MaxSimultaneousOfType = 1
 
WeaponSet
Conditions  = None
Weapon              = PRIMARY     WitchKingMorgulBlade
AutoChooseSources = TERTIARY NONE
; AutoChooseSources = PRIMARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT FROM_AI
End
 
WeaponSet
Conditions = MOUNTED
Weapon = PRIMARY NazgulPlowAttack
PreferredAgainst = PRIMARY STRUCTURE MACHINE HORDE
 
Weapon = SECONDARY NazgulGrabAttack
PreferredAgainst = SECONDARY INFANTRY THROWN_OBJECT CAVALRY
 
Weapon = TERTIARY NazgulClawAttack
OnlyAgainst = TERTIARY MONSTER
End
 
 
ArmorSet
Conditions      = None
Armor           = ToughHeroArmor
DamageFX        = NormalDamageFX
End
 
  ArmorSet
    Conditions      = MOUNTED
    Armor           = NazgulArmor
    DamageFX        = FellBeastDamageFX
  End
  
CrusherLevel = 0 ;Can I crush anything?
MountedCrusherLevel = 3 ;Crush level when mounted.
CrushableLevel = 2 ;What am I?:        0 = for infantry, 1 = for trees, 2 = cavalry/heroes
MountedCrushableLevel = 2 ;Crusable level when mounted.
 
 
; *** AUDIO Parameters ***;
 
VoiceAttack = WitchKingVoiceAttack
VoiceAttackCharge = WitchKingVoiceAttackCharge
VoiceAttackMachine = WitchKingVoiceAttack
VoiceAttackStructure = WitchKingVoiceAttackBuilding
VoiceFear  = WitchKingVoiceHelpMe
;VoiceCreated = WitchKingVoiceSalute ;this conflicts with his respawn dialogue line -- rehooked to spawn FX
;VoiceFullyCreated  = WitchKingVoiceSalute ;this conflicts with his respawn dialogue line -- rehooked to spawn FX
VoiceMove = WitchKingVoiceMove
VoiceMoveToCamp = WitchKingVoiceMoveCamp
VoiceMoveWhileAttacking = WitchKingVoiceMove ;// WitchKingVoiceDisengage
VoicePriority = 74
VoiceRetreatToCastle = WitchKingVoiceMove
VoiceSelect = WitchKingVoiceSelect
VoiceSelect2 = HeroVoiceSelect2
VoiceSelectBattle  = WitchKingVoiceSelectBattle
VoiceGuard = WitchKingVoiceMove
 
SoundImpact = ImpactHorse
 
;UnitSpecificSounds
;End
 
EvaEventDamagedOwner = UnitUnderAttack  ;Eva event to trigger when unit is damaged
EvaEventDieOwner = WitchKingDie ;Eva event to trigger on unit's death. NOTICE THAT this is only for permanent deaths
;For deaths you can respawn from, use the DeathFX
 
ClientBehavior = AnimationSoundClientBehavior ModuleTag_AnimAudioBehavior
MaxUpdateRangeCap = 800
AnimationSound = Sound:FootstepDirtA Animation:MUWchKng_SKL.MUWchKng_RUNA Frames:5 16
AnimationSound = Sound:FootstepDirtA Animation:MUWchKng_SKL.MUWchKng_RUNB Frames:4 12 20 27
 
;AnimationSound = Sound:TauntHumanHitShield Animation:MUWchKng_SKL.MUWchKng_CHRB Frames:21 31
 
AnimationSound = Sound:BodyFallGenericNoArmor Animation:MUWchKng_SKL.MUWchKng_DIEA Frames:47
AnimationSound = Sound:BodyFallGenericNoArmor Animation:MUWchKng_SKL.MUWchKng_DIEB Frames:19
AnimationSound = Sound:BodyFallSoldier Animation:MUWchKng_SKL.MUWchKng_LNDA Frames:1
End
 
; *** ENGINEERING Parameters ***
RadarPriority = UNIT
KindOf = HERO PRELOAD SELECTABLE CAN_CAST_REFLECTIONS INFANTRY PATH_THROUGH_EACH_OTHER SCORE CAN_ATTACK ATTACK_NEEDS_LINE_OF_SIGHT ARMY_SUMMARY ; SCARY MONSTER
 
Body = ActiveBody ModuleTag_02
CheerRadius    = LOT3A_EMOTION_CHEER_RADIUS
MaxHealth         = LOT3A_WITCHKING_HEALTH ;BALANCE Archer Health
DodgePercent                  = LOT3A_HERO_DODGE_PERCENT  
End
 
Behavior = AutoHealBehavior ModuleTag_WitchKingHealing
StartsActive = Yes
HealingAmount = LOT3A_HERO_HEAL_AMOUNT
HealingDelay = 1000
StartHealingDelay = LOT3A_HERO_HEAL_DELAY
HealOnlyIfNotInCombat = Yes
End
 
;;; MOUNTED HORDER SPECIAL ABILITY ;;;
  Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_HorseToggleStarter                      
  SpecialPowerTemplate      = SpecialAbilityToggleMounted
  UpdateModuleStartsAttack  = Yes
  ;InitiateSound           =
  StartsPaused = No
  End
Behavior = ToggleMountedSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_HorseToggle
  SpecialPowerTemplate    = SpecialAbilityToggleMounted
  
  ;UnpackingVariation = 2
 
  UnpackTime              = 2000
  PreparationTime         = 1  
  PersistentPrepTime      = 250
  PackTime                = 2000
  
  OpacityTarget = .3 ; How see-thru to be at peak of change
   
  AwardXPForTriggering    = 0
End 
 
Behavior = AIUpdateInterface ModuleTag_03
AutoAcquireEnemiesWhenIdle = Yes ATTACK_BUILDINGS
MoodAttackCheckRate        = 500 
End
 
; The problem child
; Behavior = GiantBirdAIUpdate ModuleTag_GiantBirdAI
; AutoAcquireEnemiesWhenIdle = No ATTACK_BUILDINGS     ; Important that Nazgul not go swooping about on his own, UNLESS IN GUARD STATE
; MoodAttackCheckRate = 500
; AILuaEventsList = FellBeastFunctions 
; FollowThroughDistance = 200
; FollowThroughCheckStep = 50
; FollowThroughGradient = 1.0
 
; GrabTossTimeTrigger = 2.5
; GrabTossHeightTrigger =   100.0
; TossFX = FX_DiebyFalling
; SpecialContactPoints = Swoop
 
; AttackPriority = AttackPriority_FellBeast
; End
 
LocomotorSet
Locomotor = HeroHumanLocomotor ;// NazgulLocomotor
Condition = SET_NORMAL
Speed     = 50 ; 32 ; lol 32
End 
 
LocomotorSet
Locomotor = WitchKingMountedLocomotor ;BALANCE FellBeast
Condition = SET_MOUNTED
Speed     = 90
End
  
Behavior = PhysicsBehavior ModuleTag_04
End
 
Behavior = AutoAbilityBehavior ModuleTag_AutoAbilityBehavior
End 
 
Behavior = HeroDie ModuleTag_HeroDeath
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilitySmite   ;the special power that I recharge by dying
End
 
Behavior = SlowDeathBehavior ModuleTag_05
DeathTypes = ALL -KNOCKBACK
SinkDelay = 3000
SinkRate = 1.20     ; in Dist/Sec
DestructionDelay = 15000
Sound = INITIAL FellBeastDie
End
 
Behavior = SlowDeathBehavior ModuleTag_07
; Same as normal death, but no sound (sound already played by SoundImpact = ... )
DeathTypes = NONE +KNOCKBACK
SinkDelay = 3000
SinkRate = 1.20     ; in Dist/Sec
DestructionDelay = 15000
End
 
Behavior = SquishCollide ModuleTag_06
;nothing
End
 
Geometry = CYLINDER
GeometryMinorRadius = 8.0
GeometryMajorRadius = 8.0
GeometryHeight = 16.0
GeometryIsSmall = Yes
 
Shadow = SHADOW_DECAL
ShadowSizeX = 19;
ShadowSizeY = 19;
ShadowTexture = ShadowI;
End

 

 

The locomotor:

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;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Locomotor WitchKingMountedLocomotor
Surfaces = AIR
MinSpeed                = 0%
SlowTurnRadius = 32.0 ;  From a standing starts, 40 foot radius.
FastTurnRadius     = 48.0 ; Once it gets moving, uses a 60 foot radius to turn.
TurnTime = 3500
TurnTimeDamaged = 4500
Acceleration = 400  ; 1 second to accelerate to full speed.
NonDirtyTransform = Yes ; this stops unit from being regiestered in the collision manager 
 
Lift                    = 100%
LiftDamaged             = 100%
Braking  = 1000  ; 1 second to brake from full speed.
MinTurnSpeed            = 30%
PreferredHeight         = 121      ; cruise height
PreferredAttackHeight   = 5 ; attack height
AllowAirborneMotiveForce = Yes
ZAxisBehavior           = SURFACE_RELATIVE_HEIGHT
; Appearance = GIANT_BIRD  ; Uncommenting this will make the Witch-king immobile when on the fellbeast.. 
; but commenting this also makes his attacks glitchy and shows no animation during attacking
 
CloseEnoughDist = 2
PitchStiffness = 0.5                  ;  stiffness of the "springs" in the suspension forward & back.
RollStiffness = 0.4                   ;  stiffness of the "springs" in the suspension side to side.
PitchDamping = 0.9                    ;  How fast it damps.  0=perfect spring, bounces forever.  1=glued to terrain.
RollDamping = 0.7                     ;  How fast it damps.  0=perfect spring, bounces forever.  1=glued to terrain.
ForwardVelocityPitchFactor = 0        ;  How much velocity will cause the front to lift/dip
LateralVelocityRollFactor = 0.8       ;  How much cornering will cause the chassis to roll.
Apply2DFrictionWhenAirborne = Yes
AirborneTargetingHeight = 25
LocomotorWorksWhenDead = Yes          ; JetSlowDeathBehavior needs this to function correctly
  
RudderCorrectionDegree = 0.099 ; makes movement appear noisier, swimmy, not so synthetic.. drawable only
RudderCorrectionRate = 0.027
ElevatorCorrectionDegree = 0.163
ElevatorCorrectionRate = 0.016
AeleronCorrectionDegree = 0.073
AeleronCorrectionRate = 0.021
 
SwoopStandoffRadius = 310.0;
SwoopStandoffHeight = 119.0;
SwoopTerminalVelocity = 0.18;
SwoopAccelerationRate = 0.012
SlideIntoPlaceTime      = 900
;SwoopSpeedTuningFactor =   0.8 
End

 

 

The commandset (can be anything, just needs a toggle mount)

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CommandSet MordorWitchKingMountedCommandSet
  1 = Command_WitchKingToggleMounted
  
   13 = Command_AttackMove
14 = Command_Stop
        15 = Command_Guard
16 = Command_GuardUnit
End

 

 

The commandbutton:

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CommandButton Command_WitchKingToggleMounted
  Command               = SPECIAL_POWER
  SpecialPower          = SpecialAbilityToggleMounted
  TextLabel             = CONTROLBAR:WitchKingMount
  Options = TOGGLE_IMAGE_ON_WEAPONSET ON_GROUND_ONLY ;Not really image, just audio
  FlagsUsedForToggle = MOUNTED ;What we really want is to toggle Theoden's audio if he is mounted or unmounted. Ya, this is a hack
  ButtonImage           = HSTheodenWarSpeech HSTheodenWarSpeech
  ButtonBorderType      = ACTION 
  DescriptLabel         = CONTROLBAR:ToolTipWitchKingMount
  InPalantir            = Yes
End

 

 

The next step would be to find out if there's a way to actually disable the GIANT_BIRD locomotor manually. Or if there's a way to enable or disable AIUpdateInterface behaviors.

2nd Edit:  No idea why it formatted the code so strangely.. 

Edited by Echo, 01 February 2019 - 11:35 PM.

[Super Hippo]

I figured this scale thing out when I saw the witchking unmounted the first time (just placed him in through Worldbuilder). I already scaled every nazgul/witchking model (foot and horse) (+30 %, didn't know the 0.8 which would result in a +25 %. However, they are about as big as a "normal human").

 

Just tested your code. (Had to change a few things duo to compatibility to 1.03.) Witchking on-foot is invisible, but the change to the fellbeast works perfectly! But yes, I see the problem with the attacks and those bridges... (no idea why you had the idea to test it on the bridges, but nice catch  )

 

I thought ...AI... would mean that only the AI makes use of this method... guess I was wrong.

 

Thinking of my last message talking about the fellbeast as a transport brought me to the idea that the mumakil is also a transport which units can enter. And it also has a way to evacuate them. But the command doesn't really have a behavior defined to it. There is only the "HordeTransportContain" module. But even if this could be transferred to the Nazgul, this would still be different in many ways...

 

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	Behavior = HordeTransportContain  ModuleTag_12
		ObjectStatusOfContained				= UNSELECTABLE CAN_ATTACK
		;PassengersTestCollisionHeight		= 80
		Slots								= 1
		EnterSound							= GarrisonEnter
		ExitSound							= GarrisonExit
		DamagePercentToUnits				= 0%
		PassengerFilter						= ANY +INFANTRY +CAVALRY +RohanLegolas
		AllowOwnPlayerInsideOverride		= Yes ; Normally, the Allies check encompasses OwnPlayer.  but we reeeeally only want our own guys.
		AllowAlliesInside					= No
		AllowEnemiesInside					= No
		AllowNeutralInside					= No
		ExitDelay							= 0
		NumberOfExitPaths					= 2 ; Defaults to 1.  Set 0 to not use ExitStart/ExitEnd, set higher than 1 to use ExitStart01-nn/ExitEnd01-nn
		ForceOrientationContainer			= No  ; otherwise contained units can't orient themselves towards their targets...
		PassengerBonePrefix					=	PassengerBone:DockAction      KindOf:HERO
		PassengerBonePrefix					= PassengerBone:B_BANNER KindOf:BANNER
		PassengerBonePrefix					= PassengerBone:B_CARGO0 KindOf:INFANTRY
		ShowPips = No
		EjectPassengersOnDeath				= Yes
		
		FadeFilter	= ALL
		FadePassengerOnEnter = Yes
		EnterFadeTime = 1000
		FadePassengerOnExit = Yes
		ExitFadeTime = 1000
	End

(I wonder what the cavalry is doing in the PassengerFilter line.)

 

 

It seems like you are "close" to make it work. But I also thought I was close when I started this topic. I thought the fellbeast would be the smallest problem because the code is already there... 

 

One little thing: You are saying that the horse as the second mount wouldn't be a problem once it is figured out how to use the foot/fellbeast. But how? I mean you use the MOUNTED flag for the fellbeast. So this flag is gone and can't be used for the other mount.

 

 

For the code formatting: The 'code'-tag here in the forum doesn't seem to work that well with the syntax used in BFME. The green text is used for Strings but because comments (semicolon until end of line) aren't detected, a apostrophe (') inside a comment starts a String, too. None of the available code types detects comments with semicolon, but the JavaScript one doesn't start Strings with apostrophe at least. So no half green codes with that one.

[Echo]

Kind of a hack, but you could trigger a ModelConditionUpdate + LocomotorSetUpdate +CommandSet change via Upgrade that the Nazgul gets on button click and changes model conditions, and the same for going back on foot. This *should* work, but I have not tested it just yet. I'm sure there are other ways also, but this would be my first try.

 

The model is probably invisible because it's supposed to be "MUWchKng_SKN" instead of "MUWchKing_SKN". In my mod he uses a different model. I edited my post. Also 0.8 scale actually means that he shrinks by 20%. EA's default size for the fellbeast is 0.8, but the unmounted Witch-King (in order to look somewhat normal) should be around 1.3-1.5... that's another issue here.

 

I also thought about TransportContain behavior, but how do you then get rid of the fellbeast if you dismount? A lot of hacks are possible with this, but I did not yet find a "clean" way to get the Witch-king to unmount in BFME 1... the Cavalry tag is interesting indeed, could be one of EA's original plans for the Mumakil, for instance that he can impale Rohirrim or something...

Edited by Echo, 01 February 2019 - 11:35 PM.

[Miraak5]

I dont think you will ever be able to implement fellbeast toggle for bfme1
because the onfoot and flying objects need specific codes and stuff that are diffrent from each other, unlike classic mounted heroes

 

in rotwk using the regular mounted code will also cause these problem, it can only work with the object toggle code but sadly it did not existed in bfme1

[Super Hippo]

Changing ModelConditionUpdate, LocomotorSetUpdate and CommandSet doesn't change the way he attacks in air I guess   

 

I meant when it is 80 % of "normal" size, then you need to scale it up by 25 % to have it at 100 % again. 0.8 * (1+0.25) = 4/5*5/4 = 1

 

And yeah, that's where my thought were, too... the fellbeast as a transport had to leave the visible world. Maybe making it invisible or move it below the earth or very far away in the sky. In addition, the fellbeast's kills should give experience to the rider and not the "transport". Probably not going to work either way.

 

Just tried, you can put Rohirrim on a Mumakil… but they are invisible and don't have an effect. Probably because they don't have a passenger bone assigned in the HordeTransportContain. Legolas however can't enter it.

 

 

Hm, I guess it isn't possible to edit the game.dat or even take the one from BFME2 to get access to this mount template, right? 

 

Right now, all heroes start at level 1 but even a weak fellbeast is still a fellbeast. So having nine of them without the downside of them needing to level to get access to the fellbeast is quite ridiculous. In the lategame, they should have access to nine on fellbeast, but in the mid-game this is probably too much.

The only good thing about not making it work is that I don't have to think about giving the foot/horse ones abilities besides screech which is probably not that much of a help without the fellbeast.

Maybe I should move on to other ideas but I fear they won't work either