hi ,im pretty new in this mod, i have played other WW2 games, this mod is pretty great but i have seen some things that actually create unbalances and arent very acurate with the reallity, there are some
-the infantry really dont have any use in mid late game they die so easely, specially by the tanks, is like if the tanks would have teleguied sabots, lol, even the machine guns hadnt such spectacular effect of the tele-sabots, lol, the original command conquer model is much better
-the soviets shouldnt have the t-70 in the early game, really they had that tank later and was fighting against the panzer3-4, clearly the panzer was pretty better, also that tank cost a lot (700 is too expensive) really the soviets shouldnt start with that tank, but with some very good pieces of artillery -very slow btw and poor acurate- and very cheap infantry with molotovs (as in the mod, but the soviet infantry should cost 70-80), with other pathetic tanks like the BT series
-superweapons or general abilities from all sides are overpowered
-t-34 should cost less, i mean really were many of these tanks, the cost should be around 700
-i think the most unbalanced unit is the panther, it wasnt such super tank as in the mod, really the armor is too big, the panther armour was similar to the t-34/85 but weaker in the sides, also the panthers didnt have such super-gun, the "fame" of that super gun was because a very special sabot, but actually werent many of these ammos in the battlefield, so the germans used both conventional sabots and with explosives, with explosives the sabot had similar punch like the 85mm of the t34/85, but both tanks were very similar in the end, both were able to pierce the front armour of the other at 1000 mts, the panther should cost a bit more also, around 2000-2400 -if you compare production panther-t34), and the t34 upgrade around 6000-8000
-the tiger should cost more, but the tiger statics are somewhat acurate
i like the addons of the "further" war , some units are cool, like the maus, is-3 and others, cool idea
Realistic Blitzkrieg?
Started by
Guest_Mister Mistery_*
, May 16 2006 11:46 PM
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#1 Guest_Mister Mistery_*
Posted 16 May 2006 - 11:46 PM
#2 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 17 May 2006 - 03:53 AM
You want realistic Blitzkrieg? Tell them to separate US and UK first. If as usuall, ignored, abandon all hope.
#3
Posted 18 May 2006 - 03:20 PM
- Infantry are fragile, fact of life. Tanks are being upgraded to a have a co-ax MG which they'll use against infantry. It wont kill as fast as the shells, but it'll still be devestating to infantry. Again, infantry are fragile. They work best in the cover of buildings or bunkers. Leave them in the open and they'll die. If you're hit by a high exploding warhead, I'm pretty sure you'll die quick too.
- All early game tanks are being re-worked. I can't say what's what there yet. By the way, the BT series were not pathetic. They were very fast recon tanks who were very well armed considering their time and small size.
- Superweapons are not overpowered, however artillery strikes and such are being re-worked. If you're talking about the Allied nuke, it's your fault for letting your opponent have that building for so long.
- You'll find the T34 is already the cheapest medium tank in the game.
- How much research have you put into the Panther exactly? The T-34 only had 70mm front. The Panther had 80mm front hull and 100mm turret front. The Panther's gun was the 75mm KwK 42 L/70 gun, which was capable of penetrating almost 150mm thick armor at the range of 1000 meters. That's slightly better than the Tiger's 88mm. If you want I could pull Logan Hartke here to prove just how wrong you are. Believe me we have researched every detail of every unit, we don't need people to tell us how they think it was.
- The tiger's pricing is accruate compared with costs of other units.
-We will not be splitting US from UK, however the UK units and structures will become much more unique from US in comming releases - infantry included.
PS - Our fans are never ignored, unless they really piss us off. Also this isn't the official site so if you want quicker answers I suggest you register at the Derelict Studios forums and post your questions there.
- All early game tanks are being re-worked. I can't say what's what there yet. By the way, the BT series were not pathetic. They were very fast recon tanks who were very well armed considering their time and small size.
- Superweapons are not overpowered, however artillery strikes and such are being re-worked. If you're talking about the Allied nuke, it's your fault for letting your opponent have that building for so long.
- You'll find the T34 is already the cheapest medium tank in the game.
- How much research have you put into the Panther exactly? The T-34 only had 70mm front. The Panther had 80mm front hull and 100mm turret front. The Panther's gun was the 75mm KwK 42 L/70 gun, which was capable of penetrating almost 150mm thick armor at the range of 1000 meters. That's slightly better than the Tiger's 88mm. If you want I could pull Logan Hartke here to prove just how wrong you are. Believe me we have researched every detail of every unit, we don't need people to tell us how they think it was.
- The tiger's pricing is accruate compared with costs of other units.
-We will not be splitting US from UK, however the UK units and structures will become much more unique from US in comming releases - infantry included.
PS - Our fans are never ignored, unless they really piss us off. Also this isn't the official site so if you want quicker answers I suggest you register at the Derelict Studios forums and post your questions there.
Edited by killakanz, 18 May 2006 - 03:22 PM.
#4 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 18 May 2006 - 03:39 PM
"The T-34 only had 70mm front. The Panther had 80mm front hull and 100mm turret front. The Panther's gun was the 75mm KwK 42 L/70 gun, which was capable of penetrating almost 150mm thick armor at the range of 1000 meters. That's slightly better than the Tiger's 88mm. If you want I could"
hmm, well you are considering the t-34/75, the t-34/85 had 90mm in turret front, 90-100mm upper/lower turret, and the front chasis had around 110mm, the panther 100mm turret front , 85-80 upper/lower turret, and 85 front chasis, t34/85, 100mm sides, panther 40-50mm. the marvel sabot for the panther was the Pz.Gr.Patr. 40/42 , but actually there werent many of them in the war, so in the end the germans used conventional or explosive sabots, the 75mm cannon itself wasnt so powerfull,maybe you missinterpreted the info
well about infantry then should be a lot cheaper, actually i have modified the ini files, and works quite nice
hmm, well you are considering the t-34/75, the t-34/85 had 90mm in turret front, 90-100mm upper/lower turret, and the front chasis had around 110mm, the panther 100mm turret front , 85-80 upper/lower turret, and 85 front chasis, t34/85, 100mm sides, panther 40-50mm. the marvel sabot for the panther was the Pz.Gr.Patr. 40/42 , but actually there werent many of them in the war, so in the end the germans used conventional or explosive sabots, the 75mm cannon itself wasnt so powerfull,maybe you missinterpreted the info
well about infantry then should be a lot cheaper, actually i have modified the ini files, and works quite nice
#5 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 18 May 2006 - 09:26 PM
and actually the tiger cannon of 88mm had lower performance but that if you compare the 75mm with Pz.Gr.Patr. 40/42 sabot, but in the time which the Tiger got into the war there wasnt any of Pz.Gr.Patr. 40/42 in production
t-34 is quite expensive if you compare with the other tanks, the tiger is quite cheap in the mod, should be around 3500-4000,maybe with the industrial facility the t-34 cost could fall from 900 to 700, the tiger hp should be rised to 1000
well i dindt know about the delrict forum , the star wars mod looks nice, i know that is filled of bugs, but really to rech such mod you need pants, jeje, cool mod anyway
-MisterMistery
t-34 is quite expensive if you compare with the other tanks, the tiger is quite cheap in the mod, should be around 3500-4000,maybe with the industrial facility the t-34 cost could fall from 900 to 700, the tiger hp should be rised to 1000
well i dindt know about the delrict forum , the star wars mod looks nice, i know that is filled of bugs, but really to rech such mod you need pants, jeje, cool mod anyway
-MisterMistery
#6 Guest_Guest_*
Posted 19 May 2006 - 04:14 AM
o rly? no wai!PS - Our fans are never ignored
#8
Posted 08 June 2006 - 02:01 AM
Ya rly, go to their forums and suggest, you surely won't be ignored. 100% guaranteed.o rly? no wai!
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