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[segwayrulz]

I can't really call myself a Catholic, no, but my family is

same here.. except for my dad and my sister, but the rest of my family are crazy religious (especially cousins etc.)

[Nertea]

Actually... I've heard there's evidence of the flood. But it wasn't global, just in that area. Can't remember what the evidence is though

*appears in topic to talk geomorphology*

From what I know, the flood is probably true, a simple case of sub-Mediterranean faulting causing a tsunami. Alternately, rifting in that area may have lowered land significantly, or pushed it up suddenly. The evidence behind this lies in correctly dated marine sediments found at current high elevations. Chances are, this had nothing to do with supernatural deities, just a particularly stressed convergent plate margin.

[Hostile]

Has anyone noticed that one of the most popular running threads at Revora was started by someone on the currently banned list? Yet here we are, something old has become new again...

Most stories from the old Torah, Bible, Koran were actually taken from early Mesopotamians. They were around long before other civs. They wrote the whole Adam and Eve tidbit and about the flood and such.

[Romanul]

Surprisingly,in my family,only women are religious.

All men are atheists,including the included

Luckily only my grandmothers put me sometimes to go to the church,but this is like once a year or so.

[Bart]

Our churches are filled to the brim....sorry, I meant the first two benches

Religion was thought up long ago in a savage society to enforce people to be good. It was a good thing then.
These days we are not savage anymore and we don't need it, but the original creator of religion sadly cannot return from the dead to step in and say "ok guys, it's enough now". On top of that it has mutated into something worse.

[Mathijs]

That's too simplistic a view.

[Bart]

Well I'm not an expert in the area, nor do I care to spend much time in becoming one. I have better things to spend it on

[Vortigern]

I think it's a pretty good summary. Religions were created to explain what the ancient folk thought needed explaining and to keep the masses in line. Since then they've evolved into whatever twisted beliefs people now hold.

[Mathijs]

Religious belief is an evolutionary concept. There was never a group of people who plotted a set of rules to control their subjects, their subjects came up with beliefs on their own and only then those with power began to realise the possibilities that we see today. Mass-brainwashing.

[Devon]

I agree with Matias here Vort

[Vortigern]

I think this is merely a semantic difference. Sure, beliefs crop up as and when, but religions are properly formulated and manipulated things. In religious terms, a belief is nothing until it becomes an institution, which is the point at which it starts being used to control people.

[Romanul]

Religious belief is an evolutionary concept. There was never a group of people who plotted a set of rules to control their subjects, their subjects came up with beliefs on their own and only then those with power began to realise the possibilities that we see today. Mass-brainwashing.

You sir deserve a cookie.

[Rob38]

These days we are not savage anymore and we don't need it

What's changed that has made of less savage than before? We still kill each other all the time.

[Elvenlord]

Don't start that Rob. Most people in civilized society don't have to fight to survive. How many people have you killed? Have I killed? Has anyone on this forum killed?

[Rob38]

Don't start that Rob. Most people in civilized society don't have to fight to survive. How many people have you killed? Have I killed? Has anyone on this forum killed?

Oh, we fight to survive, just with money and property now instead. I "fight" with others in getting a job or getting something I want. Perhaps I'm not killing the person, but it does not mean we act any less "savage". We really have not changed that much. Sure, we are more technologically advanced, but when push comes to shove, we will resort to whatever we can to survive.

[Elvenlord]

And how often are you in a life-or-death situation?
Fighting with money is far more civilized than beating each with clubs over scraps of food.

[Rob38]

And how often are you in a life-or-death situation?
Fighting with money is far more civilized than beating each with clubs over scraps of food.

If you say so... to me, it is very similar. No money = no food, no food = doing whatever you con to survive

Considering that over 2 billion people do not have access to clean water and ready food supplies, it still is an issue. Perhaps not as much in America and parts of Europe, but a lot of the world population is still struggling to survive on a daily basis.

[Elvenlord]

Except, now if you fail at one thing, you can move to another, and if all else fails, welfare. No such thing back then. Wasn't this orginally about killing anyways?

Third world countries, granted, have not changed that much. But we're talking about civilised society here.

[Rob38]

Except, now if you fail at one thing, you can move to another, and if all else fails, welfare. No such thing back then. Wasn't this orginally about killing anyways?

Third world countries, granted, have not changed that much. But we're talking about civilised society here.

Oh, well, I was talking about the human species in general. And about killing, some of the deadliest wars occurred with "civilized" countries (WW1 and WW2 for example).

[Elvenlord]

Ah, but that's a bit different. They didn't have to fight per se (To survive at least), but choose to fight. They fought for their countries, to just to survive.