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[Dark Lord Revan]

I could rationalize it all the way to kingdom come...like s. freedom maybe having a better engine...but im buying my latter example, that it was ascript mistake, and he screwed up the continuity as usual.

[bucky699]

Yea i agree especially with SG, the s-freedoms power consumtion would be way more then the destiny so therefore S-freedom shoulda conked out too. Fukuda is just gay gay gay gay....his wife is a shemale so therofere making them gay gay gay gay!!! lol not to mention morons

[Freedom06]

Could it be that the Destiny's nuclear reactor was not as high end as the Freedom's or that the Destiny reactor could not store as much energy as the Freedom's? I'm not trying to defend Fukuda(I hate him to0), i'm just wondering.

[bucky699]

a nuke reactor is a nuke reactor no matter how you look at it as long as all is in working order it should provide constant power.

[Darkspleen]

The Strike Freedom could have 2 nuke reactors or it could be a more advanced gundam and use less energy for things like the shields and such.

[Stargazer]

no, both the Destiny and Strike Freedom have only one reactor, and it's the exact same type.

[Dark Lord Revan]

I actually doubt that its the same type of reactor, i have a good feeling i justice's and s. freedom's reactors are more efficent. On the other hand, the difference cant be that large, destiny should not be able to run out of power if freedom can do a spam attack, even if you dont count the dragoons that run off charged batts....UNLESS....

I also just realised the power down can be attributed to the wings of light. Shinn was spamming it thw whole time, from fighting cags to kira, and it uses massive amount of power, or so they say. Since the new reactor design works like a nuke reactor charging a batt, the batt could have been running low. This would mean the 'Wings' have to run solely off the nuke reactor, and its possible the power requirements are above the output. In this scenario, the 'wings' can only operate when the batt is charged.

In the case of freedom, the spam attack could drain the battery but leave freedom able to operate off the reactor, until excess power from the reactor replenishes the batt. This can be an explaination why freedom spammed less then its older incarnation.

But dont get me wrong, i think the scripts all screwed up. I can defeat my own argument by considering that the reactors can power the meteors, which means there's lots of excess power availible. I doubt the 'wings' use energy like the meteors do, what with their high-energy weapons and heavy boosters...

[Stargazer]

no, they have the same type of reactor.

and when Freedom launches the drag00ns he activates the "wings of light"

so how can he spam attack, dragoon attack and use the wings of light and not run out while Shinn does just using the wings of light

[Freedom06]

Well i guess there leaves one explanation. The freedom doesn't run out of power because Kira is the pilot(ultimate coordinator). I that show Kira is god and i bet you that if kira piloted Destiny, then the destiny would not run out of power either.

[Darkspleen]

Oh boy, you shouldn't have just said that. (Everyone here, minus me, hates Kira)

[Sykes]

I dont hate Kira, in fact I like Kira. I dont think he should destroy everything without a challenge, but I also think there were a lot bigger problems with destiny besides Kira.

[Darkspleen]

Well I keep hearing that Destiny and Freedom have the same reactors, but I have never read or heard anything in the show that actually says they have the same reactors. *If* they didn't have the same reactors, one way the Freedom could have the ungodly amount of energy that it has is if it is equipped with an anti-mass reactor.

[Stargazer]

they have the SAME reactors, multiple sources including the bits of info on the model kits prove this.

and Kira was a terrible character.

OH NOEZ! I can't kill people in mobile suits, it's not right!

*cuts an entire battleship in half*

bitch please.

[bucky699]

Oh freedom you picked the wrong forum to spout kira crap lol i mean seriously, we may not actually hate kira persay but we do hate what he is, the holds no bars all pwner guy, i mean shinn is so much better cause at least he still gets his ass kicked by a decent pilot (ie athrun) but anyway the fact that kira was piloting it has nothing to do with the ability of the n-reacter to power the unit, unless you live in a magical land where kiras pwnerness can be transmuted into pure energy to power a state of the art mobile weapons platform like the s-freedom, yes you heard me right the s-freedom is pretty much the equivilent of an extremly mobile weapons platform.

oh well we can all argue over this till the pwner twins come home but is this really the place to continue this conversation?

[Dark Lord Revan]

No, i suppose not in the faq section. Anyone have any questions then? Anyone at all?....

Anyway, i dont really dislike kira either. I think his character is not bad, but its the damned script that tells him to keep pwning everyone.

I never believed that s. freedom had wings of light. It doesnt make sense for freedom to gain a superior propulsion system when the dragoons are active. Or even draw more power. So its mostly a visual effect, or it spits particles to make up for the lack of wings. Or whatever. Makes no sense for it to draw more power only when dragoons are used.

I also think destiny is said to have the same reactor, only as an afterthought detail, to make it seem less inferior. Because its obvious, destiny and legend are inferior to the SF/IJ team. Logically, freedom should have a superior reactor, but it doesnt only because of the technically script. Its an anime, they can put whatever they want in it....although subject to massive fan ranting later....

Incidentally, most japanese fans dont give a wit about this stuff, and think fukada's a great director, gundam seed is a flawless show. Sometimes i wonder if we take things too seriously.

[Freedom06]

Wow hold on, i never said i like Kira, but i do like the freedom. Kira was okay in Seed, but he started to piss me off in Destiny with his attitude. As for Shinn beating Kira, that does not say much. Kira was being a pussy in that scene and i would even go as far to say that he was trying to run away more than he was trying to fight. Other than that scene it did appear that he has some skills. In my opinion Athrun was a great character.

PS. I think we should start a section in the forum called The Mechanics of Gundam Seed Era or something where we can discuss characters and gundams.

[Stargazer]

Revan, it doesn't matter what you believe.

The fact is that they have the same reactor and that the Strike Freedom has wings of light when it launches it's dragoons.

[Sykes]

Actually S. Freedom is only rumored to have the wings of light. Destiny's supposedly give off mirage calloid particles which allow it to leave the after image effect. Freedom does no such thing, so even if the effects look the same they arent technically wings of light. At least not the same as Destiny's. Plus other than that they would really serve no other purpose.

Edited by Sykes, 23 March 2007 - 10:06 PM.

[Darkspleen]

I doubt that the Freedom and Destiny would have the same type of nuclear reactor, I bet that would just be another one of Fukada's 'screw ups'. And there is no way that the Strike Freedom had the wings of light.

[Stargazer]

I doubt that the Freedom and Destiny would have the same type of nuclear reactor, I bet that would just be another one of Fukada's 'screw ups'. And there is no way that the Strike Freedom had the wings of light.

we're not debating whether it's a screw up of Fukuda's or not, they have the exact same type of reactor!

now granted we haven't seen enough of Strike Freedoms "wings of light" as they only pop out when he lets go off the dragoons to get a real understanding of whether or not they are wings of light, but chances are they are, Fukuda has already made the S. Freedom the strongest mobile suit in C.E., he might aswell give it all the best and new technology.

so get your facts straight darkspleen, there's a big chance that they are wings of light, it's not "no way" it's very possible.