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[m@tt]

I don't think it was spam. It was repeated stuff, yes, but spam no.

This mod has nothing to do with Warhammer, so I don't agree with you saying Cel 'should' do that. It's his choice to have them as one hero or seperate heroes.
Halbarad... hmmm... depends if the Dunedain are added to the game. If not, then there's little point IMO, even if he can summon them. If dunedain are included, then fair enough. However, I don't think Dunedain are really needed.

[Olorin]

I think Celeglin said that he was gonna include the Dunedain as a summon for Eriador and Gondor, though don't take my word for it. Either way, it'll be unlikely that he'll add Halbarad, seeing as Gondor's gonna have so many additions to its heroes as it is (Aragorn and Denethor so far). To follow up what mh said, Halbarad would be a waste of time for this mod.

[Taralom]

maybe if he adds him like a summon.
take for instance Celeglin (ingame) as a summon from Celeborn.
Celeglin might consider doing such a summon for Faramir

[mike_]

IIRC, Celeglin is becoming a full hero for TLT.
-mike

[adummy]

Cel has already said that he wants to keep Celeglin as a summon

maybe you could have celeglin be his own hero this time so they are equal

Nah... I think it's alright that one faction has less heroes than the other. Rohan has more heroes than Gondor, but that doesn't make them unbalanced.

[Hearach]

To be honest, I haven't actually used Celeglin in ages. I quite forgot about him

I remember having two Celeglins in Mirkwood which Celeglin edited for the campaign. They actually rocked together

PS. Look at the page count, Celeglin's going to have a lot of reading to do when he comes back

Edited by HunterGXO, 21 July 2007 - 05:56 PM.

[Olorin]

maybe if he adds him like a summon.
take for instance Celeglin (ingame) as a summon from Celeborn.
Celeglin might consider doing such a summon for Faramir

The only problem I have with your idea is this: what do the Dunedain have to do with Faramir? Dunedain patrolled the North, Faramir and his Rangers scouted in Ithilien - no reasonable connection there from what I can tell.

[mike_]

This is slightly off-topic, but this idea just occured to me, and isn't that what this topic is about, lol?
Anyway...I think that I've come up with a way to help balance out Gondor's growing Hero population.
*pauses for dramatic effect*
Remove Gandalf.
This mostly occured to me as playing as Rohan the other day, but maybe we could make him a Third Teir summon for all good factions? After all, Gandalf traveled wherever he was needed, and an 'overall summon' would easily represent that.
However, there's balance to consider..but I'm not so good in that area, so I'll let you lot figure that out, lol.
Though, I think a timer wouldn't be the right way to go-having your commanding hero vanish in the midst of a siege isn't either realistic or fun, to me anyway, lol.
Cheers,
-mike

[Elvenlord]

Well, we'll see how everything works out before we remove gandalf (Or Cel removes gandalf )

[Taralom]

maybe if he adds him like a summon.
take for instance Celeglin (ingame) as a summon from Celeborn.
Celeglin might consider doing such a summon for Faramir

The only problem I have with your idea is this: what do the Dunedain have to do with Faramir? Dunedain patrolled the North, Faramir and his Rangers scouted in Ithilien - no reasonable connection there from what I can tell.

Dude, I wasn't talking about Dunedain. I was talking about Halbarad.

[Elvenlord]

Halbarad is one of the dunedain.
Those two never even met............

[Taralom]

ooh,

you're right. Halbarad was the one which went with Aragorn through the Mindolluin.
I thought they ment Damrod .

Apology..

[Olorin]

About the Gandalf thingy, there's no need. You have valid reasons for this elfhelm, but there aren't gonna be that many heroes added to Gondor; so far it's only Aragorn and Denethor, and it's unlikely Celeglin will go for any more.

Halbarad is one of the dunedain.
Those two never even met............

Quoted for the truth.

ooh,

you're right. Halbarad was the one which went with Aragorn through the Mindolluin.
I thought they ment Damrod .

Apology..

It's alright, no harm done. After all, that is one of the subtle aims of these B4ME related threads: to bring everyone on the same level of Tolkien-lore (or at least try to ).

[mike_]

You make it sound like Aragorn is just another hero lmao..
Actually, it all boils down to me wanting Gandalf in Rohan
Oh, and 'bout Halbarad...Aragorn didn't go through Mindolluin, but the Paths of the Dead (the true name escapes me). Mindolluin was the mountain Minas Tirith was built on-or rather, into.
Cheers,
-mike

[Taralom]

yes you're right about the Paths of the dead.
I'm dutch and i just didn't know if it was the same name.

[Eonwe]

I have been reading the campaign missions. So will we get to control a Silvan, and Noldor army along with Rohan, and gondor?

[adummy]

if it goes as Cel plans, yes.

[Olorin]

You make it sound like Aragorn is just another hero lmao..

Well of course he ain't just another hero. You made me feel bad by saying that. Never fear, Celeglin will find a way to balance it all out. I think every faction will get a new hero because of Aragorn's move, maybe two for Rohan.

Oh, and 'bout Halbarad...Aragorn didn't go through Mindolluin, but the Paths of the Dead (the true name escapes me). Mindolluin was the mountain Minas Tirith was built on-or rather, into.

I think the names you're looking for is the Dwimorberg (the mountain) and Dimholt (the forest/area before the Door).

[Mathijs]

yes you're right about the Paths of the dead.
I'm dutch and i just didn't know if it was the same name.

There's is no difference in translation there, so being Dutch doesn't have anything to do with it.

[mike_]

"There's is", Matias? lol.
Anyway...since Aragorn is presumably moving to Gondor, who would fill his shoes back in Rohan? IIRC, Cel mentioned that Erkenbrand-and possibly Elfhelm -would be taking his place.
If so, what powers do ya'll think they could have? Personally, I'd like to see Erkenbrand be a primarily leadership and infantry support hero, while Elfhelm is the cavalry-leading, Rohirrim-summoning guy.
Thoughts?
-mike