Theta.. the code for both SM/CSM regarding building of secondary HQs or other unit-producing buildings is EXACTLY the same for all factions. I have no idea what yer talking about d00d. I've always seen all our factions build secondary bases and/or build other buildings on distant LPs. Then.. when the main base is overthrown.. the builders go to another LP and continue the building.
Again... try those SAME maps you played where the SM/CSM AI did not preform as you expected but this time play against a different faction. Did those factions do what you expected? You'll find not. Its probably map-related + you really have to test multiple maps and watch a pattern. Don't expect the AI to build secondaries due to cash constraints. You wear the AI down then expect him not to spend on luxuries like extra buildings. Its just plain logic.
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Dood, it's the same old tired argument you tried to foist on me a year ago!
1) The Necrons ain't anything like the SM or CSM!! Those little beggers show up in my base or in an AI ally base all the time building a second or third monolith or stealing a slag deposit!! Nobody else like them! If they have the same code, then their code is acting completely different!!
2) The Tau were building secondary bases in DC Plain Vanilla, and they still build the most elaborate secondary bases in other people's bases in the AI Mod as well. You kill their stronghold, and the Tau don't die, because you end up finding secondary command centers all over the place down the line on the large maps.
3) Lots of different starting positions and large maps. Again, the AI reveals itself best on the large 8 player maps where the AI has time to show its full repertoire. You gotta see Tier 4 regularly, which you don't get to see on Mountain Trails. Only on large 8 player maps do you get to see the full pattern from start to finish, consistently and regularly, and for a prolonged period of time up to an hour or more. The more time you have, the more time you get to see the AI do its thing. Just plain logic there.
4) I have seen the IG come over and build a command center, or go somewhere else and build another one. I have seen the Orks come all the time and drop down their huge behemoth right in the middle of my base, and mess up the pathing and block the exitways. The Orks are doing it!
5) Now, I do know that the Eldar and SM build secondary strongholds, if they last long enough. Alas, I'm mostly seeing the SM strongholds being built right next to each other. It's as if the SM servitors refuse to leave their place of origin and go someplace else. Those guys don't wander anything like the Necron scarab builders, for example. If it's the same code, it's doing completely differnent things. And, I must say, I really haven't paid much attention to what the Eldar are doing because the Eldar AI is always the first to die, and it's just logical that I wouldn't get to see them do their thing on a regular basis, so I can't really say one way or the other with the Eldar, unlike the others.
6) Over and over again, in the games I play, the Chaos are often in the most fortuitous position, and they have some huge honking bases and tons of resources, yet they never seem to build outside of their base, nothing but some listening posts that they capture elsewhere. I don't see them putting down another Stronghold anywhere, and I certainly don't run into any secondary Chaos Strongholds as I'm working my way down the line to their base which is often last on the list to wipe out. Maybe their builders die too easily trying to get where they are going, or maybe they go too late? Definitely don't seem to see any large complete secondary Chaos bases, nothing like what the Tau or the Orks can put down almost anywhere, or nothing like the Necrons are compelled to build. The Chaos just seem to act differently endgame or in protracted Tier 4 gameplay an hour into the game, nothing like the others, for having the exact same code.
Edited by ThetaOrion, 13 January 2007 - 02:27 PM.
