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[Juissi]

Heroes
Durin III
Prince Durin:
Narvi
Mjodnir
Lofar

Units
Warriors of Khazad-Dum
Phalanxes of Durin
Dwarf archers
Dwarven explorers
Berserker Dwarf
Catapult
Battering Ram
Demolisher
Royal Battlewagons

Structures
Mine(resources)
Barracks
Archery Range
Forge Works
Fortress
Walls
Statue
Battletower

Iron Hills
Guardians
Crossbowmen

Grey Mountains
Firebeards
Slayers

Not complete yet...

Edited by Makaveli, 23 May 2007 - 03:06 PM.

[Caluadan]

I might aswell give you my ideas for minifaction units:

Iron Hills
Guardians
Crossbowmen

Grey Mountains
Firebeards
Slayers

[Juissi]

Yea I have those in the file that you sent me but there Grey Mountains was named Blue Mountains and firebeards were longbeards But I'll will add the minifactions to the techtrees today.

[Caluadan]

nice

[Mathijs]

Ack, crossbowmen...

[zimoo]

Great minds think alike, I was about to post exactly the same thing

[Juissi]

Whats so wrong about them ? They are different from axethrowers and they may not be so Tolkien like but dwarves are lacking elite archer unit and crossbows can be just that

[zimoo]

Crossbow = point and click = not elite
Bow = years of training to be able to use it = elite

M'kay?

Ignoring the obvious raping of Tolkien's works, compare how easy it'd be to make each. Crossbows have 1 set of anims, so if they don't work well you're screwed. Bows have many sets, so USE THEM!!1!!1!!!one!!!

[Juissi]

Hmm well I have always been interested to make Dwarf Hunter (Cause I had one in LOTRO beta ) so I could make that into elite unit instead of crossbow.
And also if I have understood correctly from the books that I have read, crossbows are quite advanced technology and I very much doubt that they had those in Second Age
But one thing that I want to point out, you dont have to strain crossbows which makes them easier to use than bows and the power that it shoots doesnt depend on the user as in bows if the user is weak, the bow cant be strained properly but that was just some off-topic wierd text from me. Ignore it

[Caluadan]

alright...but some dwarven archer guys would be good

[Juissi]

Yea I already have Dwarf archers at the techtree and now Im going to replace crossbowss with Dwarf Hunters. I was thinking that they could toggle between bow and axe/sword/spear.

[pasiecaaL]

sounds cool are there already some screen shots

[Juissi]

Not yet. Havent gotten around putting stuff in-game.

[Caluadan]

Yea I already have Dwarf archers at the techtree and now Im going to replace crossbowss with Dwarf Hunters. I was thinking that they could toggle between bow and axe/sword/spear.

good
would they be small sqauds with light equipment and pretty high damage?

[Juissi]

Yea something like. And I was thinking that maybe spear would be something different than sword or axe to toggle with bow.

[Caluadan]

would be awesome with spears, surely

EDIT: I think there should be some elite dwarven unit. they would be available from lvl 3 barracks or something, 6 units per horde and cost say 1000. my idea is that they would be extremely heavily equipped (thick mithril armour and double-handed axe) and have the same speed as siege weapons. they would be quite resistant to arrows, and have a lot of crush revenge. they could be some sort of lifeguards for durin

Edited by Caluadan, 26 May 2007 - 09:41 AM.

[Mathijs]

Yay! No more crossbows!

Show ze renders!

[Juissi]

Actually I have couple of Elven hero renders that I could post later today. But those were done about month ago so I doubt that Im going to leave them like that Reason being, they kinda suck

And also I have 2 dwarf renders that I will post today

Edited by Makaveli, 26 May 2007 - 11:35 AM.

[zimoo]

Yay good to see my arguments were not for naught

I like the idea of a spear toggle for the bowmen. Reason being that spears and bows are both generally used as hunting weapons, whereas swords/axes aren't. I take it that's your reasoning?

[Juissi]

Yes you said it Atleat I havent heard anyone hunting with sword