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[Sheephoof]

Hey everyone, I'm trying to create a new mod for me and my friends personal use. I want it to be functionable and enjoyable, but it is ultimately a learning curve for me in modding.

I've hit a few problems;

When creating my new faction called "School" (Im actually basing the faction on my school), I didn't know how to make a new fortress. It's not in any tutorial... infact there are no tutorials on making new buildings. So instead I decided to use the Arnor faction as the base of my mod. I took the fort, made it to unpack at the start of the game, along with two school builders. That's all great, but problems so far:

1) I've only made one custom hero and I've added him to playertemplate.ini but he doesn't show up (I have enough slots in commandset.ini, infact he's the only hero there).

2) I've edited lotr.str (extracted it from english.big, onto desktop, done all the right stuff), but for some reason, even after I put it back in english.big (replacing the old one) it doesn't work. Just comes up with MISSING: "Text".

3) Actually making new hero spells; just stuff like changing art etc. No tutorials, which I thought was a shame. Say for example, if I wanted to make a green version of fireball, rename it and give it to my hero called Harry (with edited damage and area of effect etc) how would I go about that?

Thanks for any help, I'm beggining to understand how hard modding is. I know that in these forums there are more people asking questions than answering which is a problem. Hopefully in the future, when I understand this kind of stuff, I can be one of the cool people who try to help others

Thanks for any help

[lycan]

2) I've edited lotr.str (extracted it from english.big, onto desktop, done all the right stuff), but for some reason, even after I put it back in english.big (replacing the old one) it doesn't work. Just comes up with MISSING: "Text".

you need to put the new str file in the mod not the english.big

and make sure in the ini its for example

DisplayName = OBJECT:Balrog
RecruitText = CONTROLBAR:BalrogRecruit
ReviveText= CONTROLBAR:BalrogRevive


and on the str its

OBJECT:WildBalrog
"Lungorthin"
END

CONTROLBAR:ConstructWildBalrog
"Lungorthin"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipBuildWildBalrog
"Recruit the Slave of Morgoth"
END
thats for example a balrog but just redo it with the name you gave the warrior

Edited by elvenfury, 19 October 2007 - 03:24 PM.

[Sheephoof]

I've got all that (as in how you write stuff into the lotr.str) but what do you mean, put into the mod? Do you mean you leave it in the date file?

You see this is one the things I'm having trouble with; when you make the mod do you just leave all the stuff (audio, lotr.str, ini) etc all in the same file, which you extract and save as you're ini in the RotWK file?

[Turin Turumbar]

Put your lotr.str in the data folder and it will work

[lycan]

open final big open your mod

and add file lotr.str

and name it data/lotr.str

[Sheephoof]

I do; everything works except the string... why is that? Everything is "MISSING". Even the faction on the drop down list. In the lotr.str file I have written:

INI:FactionSchool
"School"
END

SIDE:School
"School"
END


OBJECT:SchoolHarry
"Harry"
END

CONTROLBAR:HarryRecruit
"Bring the snot encoated Harry onto the battlefield"
END

CONTROLBAR:HarryRevive
"You actually want to revive BJ? I never did understand sympathy..."
END

CONTROLBAR:HarryRevive
"&Harry"
END

BTW: If you're wondering who harry (his intials are BJ - unfortunate or fortunate? I'm still undecided ) is, he's a buddy of mine who spends his whole time wiping his nose on stuff.

[lycan]

on the ini. there must be something in harry thing that says

DisplayName = OBJECT:Harry
RecruitText = CONTROLBAR:HarryRecruit
ReviveText= CONTROLBAR:HarryRevive

and if you didnt put it in the mod right you just add file and say lotr.str


as for the school thats right but on your school player template please paste it here

[Sheephoof]

;;;;;; WEAPON SETS;;;;;;	
	WeaponSet
	  Conditions	= None 
	  Weapon	= PRIMARY GoblinKingBlade
		
	
	  AutoChooseSources = PRIMARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT FROM_AI
	End
	  
 	ArmorSet
		Conditions	= None
		Armor		 = HeroArmor
		DamageFX	  = NormalDamageFX
	  End
  
	VisionRange 		= VISION_HERO_STANDARD
	ShroudClearingRange 	= SHROUD_CLEAR_HERO

	DisplayName 	= OBJECT:SchoolHarry
	RecruitText	= CONTROLBAR:HarryRecruit
	ReviveText	= CONTROLBAR:HarryRevive
	Hotkey		= CONTROLBAR:HarryHotkey
	CrushableLevel 	= 2				 ; What am I?:		0 = for infantry, 1 = for trees, 2 = general vehicles
	CrusherLevel 	= 0 			; What can I crush?: 0 = small animals, 1 = infantry, 2 = trees, 3 = vehicles

	CommandSet 	= HarryCommandSet 	; What can I crush?: 0 = small animals, 1 = infantry, 2 = trees, 3 = vehicles

Looks like I've done all that right... here's the playertemplate.ini

PlayerTemplate FactionSchool
	Side			  = School
	PlayableSide	  = Yes
	Evil		  = No
	StartMoney		= 0
	MaxLevelMP	  = #DIVIDE( PLAYER_MAX_PURCHASE_POINTS_DEFAULT PLAYER_PURCHASE_POINTS_GRANTED )
	MaxLevelSP	  = #DIVIDE( PLAYER_MAX_PURCHASE_POINTS_GOOD PLAYER_PURCHASE_POINTS_GRANTED )
	PreferredColor	  = R:43 G:150 B:179
	StartingBuilding  = ArnorFortress
	
;------------- NO STARTING UNITS FOR YOU -------
;StartingUnit0 		= GondorFighterHorde 
;StartingUnitOffset0 	= X:-60 Y:185 Z:0
	
	
	StartingUnit1 		= SchoolPorter 
	StartingUnitOffset1 	= X:30 Y:200 Z:0
	StartingUnit0 		= SchoolPorter 
	StartingUnitOffset0 	= X:1 Y:130 Z:0
	
	StartingUnitTacticalWOTR	= MenPorter	;// This unit is placed in tactical mode when playing WOTR. Add multiple lines for multiple units.
	StartingUnitTacticalWOTR	= MenPorter
	IntrinsicSciences		= SCIENCE_GOOD
	IntrinsicSciencesMP 		= SCIENCE_SCHOOL
	SpellBook			= GoodSpellBook
	SpellBookMp			= SchoolSpellBook
	PurchaseScienceCommandSet	= GoodSpellStoreCommandSet
	PurchaseScienceCommandSetMP	= SchoolSpellStoreCommandSet
	DisplayName			= INI:FactionSchool
	DefaultPlayerAIType		= MenSkirmishAI
	BeaconName			= MultiplayerBeacon
	LightPointsUpSound		= GondorLightPointsUp
	ObjectiveAddedSound		= Gui_MissionObjectiveNew
	ObjectiveCompletedSound		= Gui_MissionObjectiveCompleted
	InitialUpgrades			= Upgrade_MenFaction; Any upgrades this player template is born with.

	// NOTE: It is very important that the create-a-hero be the first buildable hero, to ensure that the create-a-hero and the ring hero are always 
	// attached to the first two buttons in the command set.

	BuildableHeroesMP		= CreateAHero SchoolHarry 
	BuildableRingHeroesMP		= ElvenGaladriel_RingHero
	SpellStoreCurrentPowerLabel 	= APT:SpellStoreCurrentEvenstarPower
	SpellStoreMaximumPowerLabel 	= APT:SpellStoreMaximumEvenstarPower
	ResourceModifierObjectFilter 	= RESOURCE_MODIFIER_OBJECT_FILTER
	ResourceModifierValues		= 100 100 100 100 90 85 80 75 71 68 66
	MultiSelectionPortrait		= UPGondor_Army
	LoadScreenMusic				= Shell2MusicForLoadScreen
End

Also I don't know why any heroes aren't buildable; it's not a problem with the unit as far as I can seem because I tested building him with Isengard (by adding him to "Buildable HeroesMP") and it worked fine.

I'll talk you through EXACTLY what I've done with lotr.str:

1. Opened up english.big with finalbig editor.
2. Extracted the lotr.str on to my desktop.
3. Edited it appropriatly with notepad.
4. Dragged into my "data" folder on the desktop.
5. Opened finalbig and added the "data" directory.
6. Saved As "inischool.big" replacing the old ini (made a backup).

This process was the same for how I approached audio (ie changing the background music) and it worked fine.

Also if someone would explain how I could make a green fireball (like Sarumans), rename it Snotball (which I could do when I understand lotr.str) and change the damage and stuff. I know I'd have to alter FXParticlesystem.ini, FXList.ini, AtrributeModifier.ini, Specialpowers.ini but I don't really know what I'm doing.

-Thanks to everyone, but esepcially up to this point Elvenfury

Edited by Sheephoof, 20 October 2007 - 09:09 AM.

[lycan]

again the faggots at ea thought it would be funny to do to names with lotr.str.

again fx

there is


R: G: B

alter these to get the colour u want

(just the R G B)

here is list of colours with the codes of R G B

http://en.wikipedia..../List_of_colors


oh rugby world cup second half starting come on sa (random quote)

Edited by elvenfury, 20 October 2007 - 07:53 PM.

[Sheephoof]

DAMN! ENGLAND HAS LOST! DAMN! I KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN BUT IT STILL PAINS ME!

+Umm... I understand that EA are unfair using lotr.str, but since they have... any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[lycan]

hmmm no not at all if you add me on msn (and if the mod is for rotwk)

i can see whats wrong with it

go south africa!!!!!

as for the fx thats fairly easy

[Sheephoof]

Ok cool - my msn is cj.newman@hotmail.co.uk; ur welcome to add me. A big thing for me is learning how to make new spells (starting simple and basing it on current spells just editing the fx and names).

I think I'm going to put my school mod on hold and just start something simpler to learn first. Maybe join a mod team or something, none the less I'll keep up this question thread since I still dunno how to make new spells editing FX or how to make new buildings