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[Mordor Slayer]

Like this?

[Wundai]

Shouldn't this be in the Mordor Suggestion thread?

[Nazgûl]

Yes it should

[DIGI_Byte]

WAIT thats sauron, BEFORE he goes evil OR before forges the ring Or before he dies? no hes pretty much ALIVE when he looses his finger.

[elbenmensch]

Before he got evil i think ,because in the movie you see how he has the ring for the first time,and he looks like later.


BTW sauron could be any creature he wanted to.Thats why the elves didnt recognise him when they forged his rings.

Edited by elbenmensch, 24 August 2008 - 05:14 PM.

[DIGI_Byte]

but he had evil desires after all he learned how to forge a ring of power than made a ring of his own in secret that had the power to throw is influence on, and AFAIK i think its safe to say know ones what he would really look like now if he came back, i don't think he would have the same form as he did if he got revived, although he CAN change his appearance.

Its cause he's spliced with a 6 legged newt and ancient Voodoo powers damn it!

[Nazgûl]

Could be a nice touch to expand Sauron in some way, and if so, this would be the way I guess. We'll see after 4.7...
For 4.8 I'm also aiming to realise something that will upset many and also make many excited, lol - the introduction of Morgoth as a summon beyond Balrog. But more on that matter later on

[Ed Of The 3rd Kind]

Morgoth was always someone I was desperate to get control of! I say go for it but you def have to get a handle on what type of powers, I gather that he should be more powerful than Sauron. I was a bit disappointed with Saurons abilities ingame, seems like they didn't bother to invest much time in him as an expanded being in his own right :(

Then again this is the Lord Of The Rings and not The Silmarillion so perhaps trying to marry the two timelines would not be such a good idea in spite of how cool the idea sounds.

Edited by Ed Of The 3rd Kind, 25 August 2008 - 10:07 PM.

[Nazgûl]

...something that will upset many...

I'm not here to materialize Tolkiens books. This mod is intended to do a number of things, as stated many times. But since I have a few minutes, let's do it again:
1) "Realism" as far as possible, meaning fixing balance in a number of aspects (like the siege/unit issue).
2) "Movie looks", meaning using everything that can be referenced to in the movies, in form of skins, models and textures.
3) Living Middle Earth, using RJ Cam to open up a new perspective
4) Extend the content of this game/experience by adding a selection of units and whatnot. The source for this is:
#1 - the movies! (Like the Noldor Warriors for instance)
#2 - the books! (Like The Great Goblin for instance)
Number 2 does not mean however that I will always follow the lore. Thus the adding of "dead" heroes as I prefer known dead names before unknown made up "living" names. It's still a game, and I want it to be fun. Being able to summon Morgoth from the void for a little while is something no other mod has done so far (not that I care about THAT, but I just think it would be a cool feature and I'd like to have that). I know it's a "big step", but it should be rather fun too Ultimately, I don't do this mod for others, I do it for me, and whoever likes it is just a great bonus actually

Edited by Nazgûl, 25 August 2008 - 10:09 PM.

[elbenmensch]

Id really like it to play as Morgoth.Anyway the balrog still needs rework.

We dont need an opposite for morgoth on the good side,he shouldnt be too strong.

Or you make him extremely strong but only stays for a minute.

[Nazgûl]

You wouldn't be "playing as Morgoth". This would merely be a summon of great uncontrollable force, using a mixture of things. A large Sauron-ish model (following official art), summoned in a great haze of smoke, storm winds, "mist", debree flying around, lightning and whatnot and a blurry Morgoth model in the middle, causing devastating havoc. And this woould only be able as a summon for Sauron, using the Ring, and the lifespan would be very short with extremely long reload time...

But don't worry, this won't happen any time soon

[Arthadan]

Returning to the topic, Sauron was already evil when he disguised himself as Annatar to fool the Elven smiths of Eregion into forging the Rings of Power with his advices, but after, when he forged the One, he had no need of disguise anymore.

[Jonasking]

And the Elves will get Tulkas or Manwë? And Ancalagon the Black for Moria? And Túrin for Men of the West? So we could play the Silmarillion instead. Kind of.EDIT:This was quoted from Arthadan,but it got wrong

It's just a cool thing,if you don't like don't use the power....

Edited by Jonasking, 28 August 2008 - 11:27 AM.

[Nazgûl]

No, no other Maiar will appear. This is meant as a uber-cool extra feature and not something that will be exploited and over exposed

*changing name of topic*

[Bob_the_Balrog]

Well, I always thought that if Annatar were EVER to be included, I felt a great appearance would be to come out of the fort in a huge gust of pretty light as Annatar, then the light turns dark and smokey, and he turns into Sauron.

That could also be the entrance if he ever got the ability to teleport (you know, since he sorta teleported infront of his army in the deleted sequence in The Return of The King). Just a thought.

As for Morgoth, I thought that if there ever were an appearance, I think there would have to be requirements (HUGE ones). Like the following.

* All other Powers already bought.

* 100 power points.

* One whole minute of intense, crazy, awesome havoc.

* And to reset the timer, you would have to pay some more power points.

And when the timer runs out (or at the very VERY unlikely event that he actually gets beaten). A cool death could show him struggling as he gets sucked back into the void.

And to match good and evil, Manwë could be the match (It could also result in some really zippy duels between the two )

BTW, been awhile since I posted.