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[Dwar the wolf]

Hi . i have some question about coding

- i give mithlond sentry a power (slayer) to give them a new weapon set and an attribute modifier , early i face some fx error and finally solve it . only the weapon set i haven't solve it yet .here are the codes to make it more understandable,

in the unit ini
[codebox] AnimationState = FIRING_OR_PREATTACK_B WEAPONLOCK_SECONDARY
Animation = ATKA
AnimationName = EUMthlnd_SKL.EUMthlnd_ATKA
AnimationMode = ONCE
UseWeaponTiming = Yes
End
End

WeaponSet
Conditions = None
Weapon = PRIMARY MithlondSentryPike ;BALANCE Isengard Pikeman Weapon
Weapon = SECONDARY MithlondSentryThrustPower ;;.;; Added for 2.02
AutoChooseSources = SECONDARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT ;;.;; Added for 2.02
End

;----------------------------------SLAYER---------------------------------------------------
Behavior = UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade ModuleTag_KnifeEnabler
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityAragornBladeMaster
TriggeredBy = Upgrade_PikemenWall
End

Behavior = WeaponModeSpecialPowerUpdate ModuleTag_KnifeFighterPowerUpdate
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityAragornBladeMaster
Duration = 20000 ;;.;; 30000 ; Needs to match SpecialAbilityAragornBladeMaster
AttributeModifier = MithlondSentryStand
;LockWeaponSlot = SECONDARY
WeaponSetFlags = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1 ;;.;; Uncommented for 2.02
StartsPaused = Yes
; InitiateSound = DwarfZerkVoiceLeap ;this doesn't work
End[/codebox]

in the horde
[codebox] WeaponSet
Conditions = None
Weapon = PRIMARY TowerGuardHordeRangefinder
Weapon = SECONDARY MithlondSentryThrustPowerHordeRangefinder
AutoChooseSources = SECONDARY NONE ;;.;; Added for 2.02
End

;----------------------------------SLAYER---------------------------------------------------
Behavior = UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade ModuleTag_KnifeEnabler
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityAragornBladeMaster
TriggeredBy = Upgrade_PikemenWall
End

Behavior = WeaponModeSpecialPowerUpdate ModuleTag_KnifeFighterPowerUpdate
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityAragornBladeMaster
Duration = 20000 ;;.;; 30000 ; Needs to match SpecialAbilityAragornBladeMaster
AttributeModifier = MithlondSentryStand
;LockWeaponSlot = SECONDARY
WeaponSetFlags = WEAPONSET_TOGGLE_1 ;;.;; Uncommented for 2.02
StartsPaused = Yes
; InitiateSound = DwarfZerkVoiceLeap ;this doesn't work
End[/codebox]

in the weapon ini

[codebox];------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon MithlondSentryThrustPower
LeechRangeWeapon = Yes
AttackRange = 36
MeleeWeapon = Yes ; Sorry, stand off doesn't work. This is just a melee weapon.
DelayBetweenShots = ELVEN_MITHLONDSENTRY_PIKE_DELAYBETWEENSHOTS ; time between shots, msec
PreAttackDelay = ELVEN_MITHLONDSENTRY_PIKE_PREATTACKDELAY
PreAttackType = PER_SHOT ; Do the delay each time we attack
FireFX = FX_GondorSwordHit
FireFlankFX = FX_Flanking
FiringDuration = ELVEN_MITHLONDSENTRY_PIKE_FIRINGDURATION

DamageNugget ; A basic Nugget that just does damage
Damage = 150
Radius = 0.0
DelayTime = 0
DamageType = SPECIALIST
DamageFXType = SWORD_SLASH
DeathType = NORMAL
End
MetaImpactNugget ; A Nugget that throws things back with force
HeroResist = .5
ShockWaveAmount = 25.0
ShockWaveRadius = 10.0
ShockWaveTaperOff = .75
DelayTime = 0
ShockWaveZMult = 1.2
SpecialObjectFilter = ALL ENEMIES NEUTRAL ; No ally knockdown
End

End

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon MithlondSentryThrustPowerHordeRangefinder
AttackRange = 36
DelayBetweenShots = 1000 ; one second.
AcceptableAimDelta = 45
MeleeWeapon = Yes
FinishAttackOnceStarted = No

HordeAttackNugget
LockWeaponSlot = SECONDARY
End
End[/codebox]

the problem is that they don't impact enemies no matter what . can anyone help?

best regard

[Ridder Geel]

If im not mistaken you have to make a different weaponset for the unit to use for that move since i believe you are trying to use the blademaster type of thing, which is similar to the lurtz carnage.
so you should do something like they use for the hero Lurtz which is a temporary weapon toggle:
[codebox]
WeaponSet
Conditions = WEAPONSET_HERO_MODE
Weapon = PRIMARY LurtzCarnageWeapon
End

;;; LURTZ CARNAGE (aka rampage) ;;;-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Behavior = UnpauseSpecialPowerUpgrade ModuleTag_LurtzCarnage
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityLurtzCarnage
TriggeredBy = Upgrade_LurtzCarnage
End
Behavior = SpecialPowerModule ModuleTag_LurtzCarnageStarter ; SpecialAbility is a SpecialPower, SpecialPower is anyting special
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityLurtzCarnage
StartsPaused = Yes
AttributeModifier = LurtzCarnage
AttributeModifierAffectsSelf = Yes
End
Behavior = HeroModeSpecialAbilityUpdate ModuleTag_CarnageUpdate ; So the difference in SpecialAbility is that it takes timing from this Update, instead of simply firing.
SpecialPowerTemplate = SpecialAbilityLurtzCarnage
HeroEffectDuration = 15000 ; ;30000
UnpackTime = 1 ; how long the weaponset is active

RequiredConditions = WEAPON_TOGGLE
End
[/codebox]
i hope you do know that when lurtz uses his carnage it uses a special power template of the WEAPONSET_HERO_MODE
which allows lurtz to use that weapon temporarily.
I think this is what you wanted to know, if it isnt then you should pm me about it!

[Dwar the wolf]

thanx Rider for replay.

well , i used differnt special power like blade master and slayer and even carnage , i put it in both the unit and the horde. my question

is in the weapon why don't they impact enemies i tried several weapon set with no luck here are some code i tried
in unit

WeaponSet
		Conditions		= WEAPONSET_HERO_MODE
		Weapon			= PRIMARY	MithlondSentryThrustPower
	End

in horde

WeaponSet
		Conditions		= WEAPONSET_HERO_MODE
		Weapon			= PRIMARY	MithlondSentryThrustPowerHordeRangefinder
	End

in weapon

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon MithlondSentryThrustPower
  LeechRangeWeapon	  = Yes
  AttackRange		   = 36
  MeleeWeapon		   = Yes; Sorry, stand off doesn't work.  This is just a melee weapon.
  DelayBetweenShots	 = ELVEN_MITHLONDSENTRY_PIKE_DELAYBETWEENSHOTS			; time between shots, msec
  PreAttackDelay		= ELVEN_MITHLONDSENTRY_PIKE_PREATTACKDELAY				
  PreAttackType		 = PER_SHOT		; Do the delay each time we attack
  FireFX				= FX_GondorSwordHit
  FireFlankFX		= FX_Flanking
  FiringDuration		= ELVEN_MITHLONDSENTRY_PIKE_FIRINGDURATION

	DamageNugget							; A basic Nugget that just does damage
		Damage		= 110
		Radius			= 0.0
		DelayTime		= 10
		DamageType	= SPECIALIST
		DamageFXType  = SWORD_SLASH
		DeathType	 = NORMAL
	End
	MetaImpactNugget				   ; A Nugget that throws things back with force
		HeroResist		  = .5
		ShockWaveAmount		= 55.0
		ShockWaveRadius		= 10.0
		ShockWaveTaperOff	= .75
		DelayTime		= 0
		ShockWaveZMult		= 1.2
		SpecialObjectFilter	= ALL ENEMIES NEUTRAL; No ally knockdown 
	End
  
End

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapon MithlondSentryThrustPowerHordeRangefinder
	AttackRange			= 36
	DelayBetweenShots	= 1000; one second.
	AcceptableAimDelta	= 45
	MeleeWeapon			= Yes
	FinishAttackOnceStarted = No
	
	HordeAttackNugget
		LockWeaponSlot		= SECONDARY
	End
End

i just want them to give an ImpactNugget to throw enemies .

and thanx in advance

[Ridder Geel]

take a look at this code:

Weapon MirkwoodArcherSilverthornBowWarhead  	RadiusDamageAffects = ENEMIES 	HitStoredTarget = Yes	; Always hits initial target.		; Damage to structures is the same as before  	DamageNugget  		;SpecialObjectFilter = NONE +STRUCTURE	    	Damage        = ELVEN_MIRKWOOD_ARCHER_DAMAGE_UPGRADE_PIERCE		Radius        = 0.0	   	DelayTime     = 0	    	DamageType    = PIERCE	    	DamageFXType  = GOOD_ARROW_PIERCE	    	DeathType     = EXPLODED	End  	DamageNugget  		;SpecialObjectFilter 	= ALL -STRUCTURE	    	Damage        		= ELVEN_MIRKWOOD_ARCHER_DAMAGE_UPGRADE_MAGIC		Radius        		= 0.0	    	DelayTime     		= 0		DamageType		= MAGIC		DamageFXType		= MAGIC	    	DeathType     		= EXPLODED	    	DamageScalar  = 25% NONE +STRUCTURE +SUMMONED ; ;	End	MetaImpactNugget		ShockWaveAmount   = 50.0		ShockWaveRadius   = 10.0		ShockWaveTaperOff = 1.0		ShockWaveSpeed    = 0.0		ShockWaveZMult    = 1.0	EndEnd

Who cares about the part that its a warhead (i also removed some unneccesary things).
look at the METAIMPACTNUGGET,
as far as i see in all the codes that push units back there is no DelayTime in the nuggets
And for the part of only hurting enemies try to add this code to your weapon (not the damagenugget):

RadiusDamageAffects = ENEMIES; you can try adding neutral!

and remove your special object filter in the damage nugget.
the damage nugget itself might be confused by some of the things you put in it, so try to look the codebox up there and compare it a bit!
the example up there isnt the best but i think if you look at some other weapons you can figure it out.

BTW thanks for bringing this interesting thing up, I might add this to my WEAPONS tutorial when we have solved this!

If it still doesn't work then just tell me, and ill try again

[Dwar the wolf]

unfortunatly didn't work. i tried other codes but no luck , i think the error comes from the horde weapon set because every horde have a weapon set differ

from the unit . like mirkwood they have three weapon sets with diffrent conditions

WeaponSet
		Conditions = None 
		Weapon = PRIMARY	MirkwoodArcherBow
		Weapon = TERTIARY   MirkwoodArcherBowBombard
		AutoChooseSources = PRIMARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT FROM_AI
		AutoChooseSources = TERTIARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT			; Not AI.
	End
	WeaponSet
		Conditions = PLAYER_UPGRADE
		Weapon = PRIMARY	MirkwoodArcherSilverthornBow
		Weapon = TERTIARY   MirkwoodArcherSilverthornBowBombard
		AutoChooseSources = PRIMARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT FROM_AI
		AutoChooseSources = TERTIARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT			; Not AI.
	End
		
	WeaponSet
		Conditions = CLOSE_RANGE CONTESTING_BUILDING
		Weapon = PRIMARY   RohanArcherBowMelee
		Weapon = TERTIARY  MirkwoodArcherBowBombard
		AutoChooseSources = TERTIARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT			; Not AI.
	End

but in the horde there is only one weapon

WeaponSet
		Conditions = None 
		Weapon = PRIMARY	MirkwoodArcherMissileHordeRangefinder
		Weapon = TERTIARY	MirkwoodArcherMissileHordeRangefinderBombard
		AutoChooseSources = TERTIARY FROM_PLAYER FROM_SCRIPT			; Not AI.
	End

maybe this is for archers and maybe the problem isn't in weapon set .( i hope not , knowing where the error is better than not )..

thanx rider for replaying

best regard

[Ridder Geel]

Well i think i know what is wrong,
you don't have to change the horde weapon!
and add a second weaponset on the unit for the special move thing,
it should work im almost 100% sure since the horde weapon is just for everyone in the horde to attack a unit.
if you send me your units entire code (including the one with the horde's code) i might be able to fix it for you.
(i figured that the way im trying to explain this is not the best way so i might just fix your code for you!)

[Dwar the wolf]

thanx i'll send it to you , btw i have another question i want to change the formation of a horde and i want

it in special power and an upgrade trigger , is it possible ? also making them move after the formation triggerd

like in bfme1.

thanx in advance

[Ridder Geel]

thanx i'll send it to you , btw i have another question i want to change the formation of a horde and i want

it in special power and an upgrade trigger , is it possible ? also making them move after the formation triggerd

like in bfme1.

thanx in advance

That should be possible, since you say it exists in BFME I.
If you could maybe explain exactly what the do in BFME I i might be able to find out faster.
Ill have a look and post about that later

Edited by Ridder Geel, 24 February 2008 - 10:40 AM.

[Dwar the wolf]

maybe you misunderstood , i know it exist in bfme1 but it doesn't have any upgrade or special power.

you know like wedge and line formation it don't have an upgrade trigger in bfme1 , also in rotwk

any pike should have Porcupine here some codes

ChildObject ElvenMithlondSentryHordePorcupine ElvenMithlondSentryHorde

	// Note - for alternate formations, all info outside of the Contain Behavior module is ignored.
	// Any modifications need to be done via the Attribute Modifiers in the contain module. 
	Behavior = HordeContain ModuleTag_HordeContain
		FrontAngle 				= 360				//	Can't be flanked
		FlankedDelay 				= 2000
		ObjectStatusOfContained 		= 
		InitialPayload				= ElvenMithlondSentry 15
		Slots					= 12			; Originally 15
		PassengerFilter				= NONE +INFANTRY
		ShowPips				= No
		ThisFormationIsTheMainFormation 	= No				//Used to determine which armorset to use (and anything else we want!)
		RandomOffset				= X:2 Y:1
		RanksToReleaseWhenAttacking		= 0
		RanksToJustFreeWhenAttacking   		= 0
		AttributeModifiers			= ElvenMithlondSentryHordePorcupine
		IsPorcupineFormation			= Yes
		MinimumHordeSize			= 5

		AlternateFormation			= ElvenMithlondSentryHorde
		VisionRearOverride			= 100%
		VisionSideOverride			= 100%
		NotComboFormation			= Yes 			// this formation is not suitable for combo, so it will switch out of this when combo-ing

		// Banner Carrier info		
		BannerCarriersAllowed	= ElvenBanner												// types of units that are allowed as banner carriers
		BannerCarrierPosition	= UnitType:ElvenMithlondSentry	Pos:X:0.0 Y:0.0		// (DEFAULT) position of banner carrier
		
		RankInfo		= RankNumber:1 UnitType:ElvenMithlondSentry Position:X:20 Y:0	Position:X:-16.18 Y:11.76		Position:X:6.18 Y:-19.02	Position:X:6.18 Y:19.02	Position:X:-16.18 Y:-11.76	Position:X:36.54 Y:16.27	Position:X:-39.13 Y:8.32	Position:X:26.77 Y:-29.73	Position:X:-4.18 Y:39.78	Position:X:-20 Y:-34.64	Position:X:26.77 Y:29.73	Position:X:-39.13 Y:-8.32	Position:X:36.54 Y:-16.27	Position:X:-20 Y:34.64	Position:X:-4.18 Y:-39.78
	End
End

as you can see there is only an AttributeModifiers no upgrade no special power , i want an upgrade

but i can't figure it out .. any help would appreciated.

best regard

[Ridder Geel]

I have made the horde push units back now, i hope its what you wanted,
I have PM'd it to you!

Ill have a look at the other question now

Please tell me if you liked what i have done!

[Dwar the wolf]

[Ridder Geel]

about your horde things,
you want to have them be able to do a power ONLY when doing that 'kind-of' formation?
Or do you want them to need an upgrade to be able to get in that formation?
For me to help you please specify which of the above you want, or whatever else u want!

[Dwar the wolf]

eiether by upgrade or a special power just to make it work.

[Ridder Geel]

eiether by upgrade or a special power just to make it work.

so you just want to add a own formation?

[Dwar the wolf]

sorry, forget about the formation issue . i'v another problem about ai :

lately the ai do something unexpected , in rotwk ea makes the ai build walls around his base but in my
mod he build walls and around his base BUT ALL HIS TROPPS IS INSIDE THE BASE ( TRAPPED).
i don't know why , i only edited some codes in skirmishaidata.ini like ArmyMemberDefinition not only that
i take the original file that comes from ea and replace it with the i edited and nothing change .

i hope someone can figure this out and thanx in advance

[Ridder Geel]

sorry, forget about the formation issue . i'v another problem about ai :

lately the ai do something unexpected , in rotwk ea makes the ai build walls around his base but in my
mod he build walls and around his base BUT ALL HIS TROPPS IS INSIDE THE BASE ( TRAPPED).
i don't know why , i only edited some codes in skirmishaidata.ini like ArmyMemberDefinition not only that
i take the original file that comes from ea and replace it with the i edited and nothing change .

i hope someone can figure this out and thanx in advance

It might have something to do with the faction's BASE files...
you might want to check those out.

[Dwar the wolf]

the BASE files seem confused to me because i open the base file in rotwk WB and see all the faction but i don't know

what im looking for . i don't have any idea about WB and i never mess with it so what do i have to do ? is there any tutorial?

note : does the base files in bfme2 affect rotwk ?

[Ridder Geel]

the BASE files seem confused to me because i open the base file in rotwk WB and see all the faction but i don't know

what im looking for . i don't have any idea about WB and i never mess with it so what do i have to do ? is there any tutorial?

note : does the base files in bfme2 affect rotwk ?

oh in that case, (you not knowing anything about BASE file)
you might have done something in skirmishaidata.ini that caused the ai to do wierd things,
try to work back what you changed and see if the enemy works then.
If it doesn't then you did something else

oh ya and no the base files from BFME II shouldn't effect the ones from the witchking

Edited by Ridder Geel, 27 February 2008 - 06:18 PM.

[Dwar the wolf]

a question : the past days i've tried to learn about the BASE files but it seem like my learning

leads to nowhere , i open WB looking for something to change ( like coding ) and i ended with the script.

well it only shows the ai power points , so what can i change in the Base files ?.

note : how did ea makes the ai build walls , is it via coding or with WB ?

thanx in advance

[Ridder Geel]

a question : the past days i've tried to learn about the BASE files but it seem like my learning

leads to nowhere , i open WB looking for something to change ( like coding ) and i ended with the script.

well it only shows the ai power points , so what can i change in the Base files ?.

note : how did ea makes the ai build walls , is it via coding or with WB ?

thanx in advance

walls are made by the ai on certain maps that allow it, using the wall hub template.

Base files are what the ai builds on a map(s).