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[Stargazer]

uuuuuuhhhhhhh, I was hopeing his face would be blown in aswell as the glass.

i'm dissapointed...

WAIT! NO I'M NOT!

WE MAY HAVE GOT A GLIMPSE OF RANDY, STEWART AND HENRY! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crusader]

Who now?

[Stargazer]

Randy and Stewart were the two overflag aces killed by Johann Trinity at the beginning of Episode 16.

Henry was the former Overflag, current GN-X pilot that tried to attack Exia after they lost control of the gundams then rebooted, Setsuna threw a blade backwards and it penetrated Henry's GN-X, Daryl screams out "HENRY!" then Henry explodes and dies.

*wipes tears*

True heroes of G00.

[Dark Lord Revan]

Japanese people are well aware of the stereotypes that surround these things you know.

Anyway, ep 9 tells us two things. One, graham has a 'license' to do whatever he very well pleases, getting support from a-laws without having to follow its direction. So he can legally leave a-laws pilots to die. But the issue is about the name he has right? So second, he tells katagiri that the whole persona he dons is a nuisance. He really could give shit about the name man.

The show isnt so simple. This isnt about cb being the good guys and a-laws is bad. You have good and bad on both, and gray areas like lyle dylandy.

[Crusader]

So true, for the most part shows nowadays involving wars never really have a good-guys/bad-guys line, it's always about perspectives.

the Brits saw America's war for independence as terrorism and treason, America says it was a war for freedom, see my point here? wars are about perspectives.



Although Hitler was TRUELY evil, his original intentions are to strengthen Germany, to which he did......to a certain point before completely destroying it, since his methods were completely wrong.

Anyways, thought this was pretty funny.



Mister Bushido's true identity.............is Alaska's Joshua!!!!!




found this surfing around, lol

Edited by Crusader, 05 December 2008 - 08:51 PM.

[Dark Lord Revan]

Heck that, this is far more interesting. Thought not gundam. http://www.youtube.c...le.com/news.php

Gotta love azumanga.

Edited by Dark Lord Revan, 06 December 2008 - 05:37 PM.

[Crusader]

lol I've already seen that one. Though I dont remember where or how...

[Dark Lord Revan]

Ok...i tot it was random enough that no one watched it yet....

So, judging by what they commented on the power levels, using trans-am on 00 with the 0-riser i like having the power output of more than 6 GN drives all with trans-am on?

Ooo, allelujah's going to have l33t skills again...

[Stargazer]

To be fair, I only just watched Ep 9 today.

I didn't know he didn't call himself Mr. Bushido.

In that case, it's fine, he can ditch anyone he wants.

[Crusader]

I was expecting the power level to go OVER 9000!!!!!

...but 290% is fine for now.

[Re4_wesker]

well in the time since i finished code geass r2 ive watched all of gundam 00 season one and up to ep 11 of season 2. Hmmmm my thoughts....

mr bushido/aker/char.......: hes not honourable at the least XD. the only characteristics ive seen that resemble the name bushido is his mask and maybe what he wears. one thing i will agree with stargazer is that the last fight in season one with aker was a joke. since then i havent seen a lotta overkillness from bushido/aker. i think bushido should be more powerful considering how he could match a gundam from season one with a custom flag.

Patrick Colasaur: Wtf hes still alive 0.o. This was one of the things i didnt see coming in season 2. I thought he would stay dead for once. hes not too bad of a character but i honestly thought he died in season one.......

louise: well she isnt much of a antagonist. she doesnt seem to pilot a mobile suit to well. i suppose she hasnt been shot down yet but.......

ali al: im not surprised hes alive. in fact he seems to be the best antagonist at the moment. almost taking out the 00 gundam and tierias gundam (its name escapes me at the moment) was the spaziest ive seen from a antagonist in a while.

the gundam meisters: i have no really big complaints about them. the one thing im happy about is that they arent overly whinny like what i witnessed in previous series. having a child soldier as the main character seems more interesting then having a childish coordinator.

A laws: for some odd reason every time i see the A laws i remember the Titans from zeta gundam. ive only played dynasty gundam so im only vaguely familiar with the Titans but for some reason i always think of them when it comes to A laws.

in my opinion yes the A laws are the bad guys. first off in episode 1 they throw saji into crazy high gravity work area cuz they think hes a terrorist/freedom fighter/what ever your opinion on katoran is. then ali al went on a rampage for the innovators (who lead the a laws for the most part) through Azadistan. i didnt see much of an effort to save civilians from anyone in a laws or their little united nations. and finally in episode 11 (i think) they blew up seel with a big spazzy laser!! Ya lets whipe out an entire city to kill a few katoran members .

Perhaps A laws themselves arent completely bad. it may be more of the innovators that are the bad influence.

btw stargazer u seem to remember a lot of the minor characters that die terrible deaths at the hands of the main characters dont u?

now for a hopefully not too long wait for ep 12....

Edited by Re4_wesker, 20 December 2008 - 04:45 AM.

[Stargazer]

1 ) Louise is a brilliant antagonist, unlike just about everyone else in the show, she's relateable, she hasn't gone on a major emo-trip in a long while and got her shit together and started doing something to actually get back at the gundams, unlike that fag Saji who jsut bitches and moans.

2 ) Colasour... staying dead in Season 1? He was shown to be perfectally alive one episode after the top half of the GN-X exploded (and note, if you look carefully, the cockpit area of the GN-X is perfectally intact, so it wasn't a surprise that he was in the lineup at the end)

3 ) Ali fucking rocks

4 ) A-LAW's are nothing like the Titans, the Titans were evil, they gassed a colony because people were protesting in them.

5 ) And the US throw terrorists into Guantanimo Bay, there's no difference, you don't leave potential terrorists out in the open to do their hsit, you get them, you put them somewhere where they can't do anything, I hardly see why A-LAW's are evil for detaining potential terrorists.

- Innovators don't lead the A-LAW's in any way shape or form, Billy's Uncle is the leader, and he has been completely reluctant in working WITH them, in fact he only did when he really needed to when those terrorists known as CB were killing innocent soldiers under hsi commmand, so then you can't blame Ali's actions on the A-LAW's, they did nothing.

- The big laser wasn't to kill Kataron, Seel (or whatever it's called) had been having a go at the federation for a while, they wanted a war, it's stated that the president was pissing the federation off with his bullshit and antagonizing them, the moron thought his shitty enacts could stand up to the GN-XIII's and Aheads of the A-LAW's. It wasn't so much a big laser to just kill Kataron, but a pre-emptive strike to kill the leaders, and the kataron members, who wanted this war to go on. It's exactly like the US dropping the A-Bomb, they would've lost lots of men fighting a land battle, so they nuked Japan to stop their bullshit, same thing with A-LAW's, they cut off the head of the snake to stop this war wanting president, and potentially save more lives then were lost by the land battle that would've insued.

6 ) Yes, I do remember lot's of the minor characters deaths, I find a soldier fighting for his country a lot more appealing then some 14 year old little poofter who thinks he's a philospher and goes around killing innocents and being a pretentious prick saying that when he kills its fine, but when others do it it's terrible. Fuck the Gundam Meisters, they're completely and utterly annoying.

7 ) Gundam 00 still sucks dick.

[Re4_wesker]

1 ) Louise is a brilliant antagonist, unlike just about everyone else in the show, she's relateable, she hasn't gone on a major emo-trip in a long while and got her shit together and started doing something to actually get back at the gundams, unlike that fag Saji who jsut bitches and moans.

2 ) Colasour... staying dead in Season 1? He was shown to be perfectally alive one episode after the top half of the GN-X exploded (and note, if you look carefully, the cockpit area of the GN-X is perfectally intact, so it wasn't a surprise that he was in the lineup at the end)

3 ) Ali fucking rocks

4 ) A-LAW's are nothing like the Titans, the Titans were evil, they gassed a colony because people were protesting in them.

5 ) And the US throw terrorists into Guantanimo Bay, there's no difference, you don't leave potential terrorists out in the open to do their hsit, you get them, you put them somewhere where they can't do anything, I hardly see why A-LAW's are evil for detaining potential terrorists.

- Innovators don't lead the A-LAW's in any way shape or form, Billy's Uncle is the leader, and he has been completely reluctant in working WITH them, in fact he only did when he really needed to when those terrorists known as CB were killing innocent soldiers under hsi commmand, so then you can't blame Ali's actions on the A-LAW's, they did nothing.

- The big laser wasn't to kill Kataron, Seel (or whatever it's called) had been having a go at the federation for a while, they wanted a war, it's stated that the president was pissing the federation off with his bullshit and antagonizing them, the moron thought his shitty enacts could stand up to the GN-XIII's and Aheads of the A-LAW's. It wasn't so much a big laser to just kill Kataron, but a pre-emptive strike to kill the leaders, and the kataron members, who wanted this war to go on. It's exactly like the US dropping the A-Bomb, they would've lost lots of men fighting a land battle, so they nuked Japan to stop their bullshit, same thing with A-LAW's, they cut off the head of the snake to stop this war wanting president, and potentially save more lives then were lost by the land battle that would've insued.

6 ) Yes, I do remember lot's of the minor characters deaths, I find a soldier fighting for his country a lot more appealing then some 14 year old little poofter who thinks he's a philospher and goes around killing innocents and being a pretentious prick saying that when he kills its fine, but when others do it it's terrible. Fuck the Gundam Meisters, they're completely and utterly annoying.

7 ) Gundam 00 still sucks dick.

1. so now your comparing them to the united states. well i dont like them either so i dont really give a shit if u think the a laws are that good. So you say that Titans gassed a colony? well the A laws blew up a city with a big ass laser. and sure they wanted to eliminate the leaders and stuff but the killed numerous inicent people in the proccess. Yes its exactly like what the US dropping a A-bomb was like but it was still a stupid idea. sure it saved lives of soldiers but the amount of innocent people who died in the proccess was probably just as bad.

2.Well maybe i was distracted when Colasaur survived. i still thought he was dead (like his luck ran out sort of thing). Anyways i dont really mind Colasaur. hes actually not too bad of a character.

3. Something i would like to point out about saji. Why did he go emo when the katorans died? Well obviously because he was the direct cause to their deaths. He didnt want to be pulled into the fight (like numerous characters seen throught gundam) and he didnt want to kill either. sure he though katoran was wrong but he noticed how some of the people there were kind to him so he didnt want them to die. About your potential terrorist comment how the hell is Saji a potential terrorist. Hes whinny and cant get his shit together as you said. Ya real terrorist material.

Oh and i dont like Saji either i find him overly whinny as if they have keep some sort of whinny character in the series.

4. Also u say u hate the characters that get philosophical. why the hell do u even bother watching anything made by sunrise then. Almost all of their stuff involves philosophical characters. U should have figured that out by now or atleast after seeing code geass r2.

5. if u like soldiers that fight for their country then this isnt the series for u. the people who do that seem to have very short life spans in this series.

6. Off topic: whats is your opinion of light yagami? Out of curiousity.

[Dark Lord Revan]

....light yagami? Hell whatever. I just got back from a fucking long deployment...dammit. You guys should really try being in the army some day, it sucks balls.

I have to say, patrick's growing on me.

re4 has it right about saji. He's not an uncommon stereotype. Basically if your that kind of pacifist, you would go critising people who favor violence and become aghast that you caused any succh thing to happen. The fact that the victims of your actions are the same guys you went down hard on is immaterial.

As for the US throwing terrorists into Guantanamo bay....actually its a good example of why this is morally improper. Why is there so much hoohaa about that damned prison? Think about it...its not right, even if the most powerful country in the world says its so.

Yes louise is a brilliant character. Her character is quite cleaned-up from the first series, and i can even forgive saji's existence cuse he needed to be for us to get the louise we have today.

People debate to today if the US nuking japan was the right thing to do. I believe its not right, but also that there are no right answers. Afterall, Russia invaded germany in the same war with millions upon millions of casualties, which isnt right either. One thing the us had going for them was that they had declared war on japan, and arguably japan may or may not have given fair warning of a war declaration.

A-laws just spammed a superweapon on an neutral unaligned country that they have not declared war on. As a soldier one rule i have to uphold is that you can only shoot someone if he has made possibly fatal and threatening acts towards you, and i cant kill unless he also has an equal chance of killing me, i.e. he also has a gun. This is why, for example, if i built a minefield, i have to mark its boundaries to let anybody know there are mines there, or the reason why booby traps are banned. If your wondering why minefields have been laid in Vietnam without marking or booby traps have been used in war anyway, they're illegal.

And being political assholes is not being fatally threatening, nor does wanting to go to war mean that you did declare war. Flimsy reasons for an attack...in fact its genocide. Almost nothing excuses genocide. If you think the above does, you need to see a psychiatrist.

Can i also point out that they didnt tell the federation regulars that they were going to fire? Lets bring back your older argument about graham, he's shit cuse he leaves his comrades to die right? Last i heard, a-laws was part of the federation too. And they nearly cooked fed regulars.

As for the meisters...i just have to say that, its not dissimilar from gundam wing and it also carries on the common stereotype of a small group or one gundam vs the world. Since its a gundam showw, live with it. There've been worse protagonists.

Edited by Dark Lord Revan, 21 December 2008 - 03:16 AM.

[Re4_wesker]

the light yagami question was directed towards stargazer mostly.

as for louise i think i jumped the gun in my opinion about her. she hasnt gotten shot down or anything. not only that but atleast she is doing something unlike saji at the moment. which of the 3 trinity pilots killed her family btw? if it was the female pilot i suspect that later in the series louise may end up fighting her or at least meeting her.

when watching the first season i wondered why they bothered having saji and louise in it. they really didnt have much of a significance in the plot. as it went on though and i discovered how happy they were i knew it was going to end badly. it seems as if season one was their back story for season 2 where they are now more significant to the plot.

sigh i hate waiting for new episodes of anime........

[Stargazer]

Sorry, but this isn't some ideological world where innocents never die and everyone should make sure only soldiers die. It was a pre-emptive strike by the A-LAW's, something of which many countries have used many a time, and lots of the time innocents have died, what? Is the entire world evil by your standards? you're starting to sound like the Meisters.

and what Revan? Should we leave terrorists out in the open and let them do their own shit? No, of course not, we detain them, much like what the A-LAW's did, they are filthy terrorists, they have no rights. But what do A-LAW's do with captured soldiers and political figures? They jail them, no abuse of any kind, simply jail them. That doesn't sound like something a bad guy would do.

and telling the regulars? Why? The A-LAW's knew exactly what kind of damage their weapon would do, why would you risk tipping off the enemy with communci when you know perfectally well your weapon won't cause collateral damage.

and Light? He's evil and insane. I love him.

[Re4_wesker]

Sorry, but this isn't some ideological world where innocents never die and everyone should make sure only soldiers die. It was a pre-emptive strike by the A-LAW's, something of which many countries have used many a time, and lots of the time innocents have died, what? Is the entire world evil by your standards? you're starting to sound like the Meisters.

and what Revan? Should we leave terrorists out in the open and let them do their own shit? No, of course not, we detain them, much like what the A-LAW's did, they are filthy terrorists, they have no rights. But what do A-LAW's do with captured soldiers and political figures? They jail them, no abuse of any kind, simply jail them. That doesn't sound like something a bad guy would do.

and telling the regulars? Why? The A-LAW's knew exactly what kind of damage their weapon would do, why would you risk tipping off the enemy with communci when you know perfectally well your weapon won't cause collateral damage.

and Light? He's evil and insane. I love him.

well you sound like an a law i guess. heres the thing. your cheering for the A laws. most other people are cheering for the meisters. Odds are you will never be satisfied if you like the antagonist and you cheer for them more then the protagonists.

Yes jail them of course. then again they did just laser a bunch of them in the face and that was because they didnt want to join the united nations and they disagreed with their actions. does that sound like the good thing to do? whipe them out when they disagree with you? also no abuse? so you call Saji who was a "suspected terrorist" being forced to work in a high gravity enviroment with inproper gear not abuse? some of the people collapsed from the physical demand of it.

they couldnt say for sure there would be no collateral damage. that was the first time they fired the weapon. the shockwave could have been bigger then they predicted.

So let me get this straight. you would support nuking a country and killing all of its people just to eliminate the select few people who wish to fight your country in there. im sorry but i cant agree with that sort of logic. frankly its wrong in my opinion.

also there is no good or evil stargazer. there is a opinion of right and wrong held by different people and it appears our views of right and wrong conflict. when it comes down to it mankind are violent animals. we vicously attack eachother because frankly we just dont like each other. this is why mankind will never change. however i like to think that there is still hope for humanity. these are my beliefs. you may disagree with them but i will respect your opinion. i may challenge it now and again but i still respect them.


im gonna keep watching the anime no matter what your personal opinion is. i enjoy the series even if it has its own issues. every series has issues. however i get past that and keep enjoying the series as a form of entertainment.

also i just watched ep 12. not bad for the most part. 00 is really spazzy in combat.

Edited by Re4_wesker, 22 December 2008 - 04:46 AM.

[Zexion01]

i just watched ep. 12 and man i have to say i hope Saji dies soon for his own sake (crybaby)

and i think we can already assume that Anew is an Innovator.

My feelings on the characters so far:

Ali: i admit he's one of most skill MS pilots out there, but still due to most of his action won my hate for him.

Graham: though he has a different name now, i still find him to be darn awesome character, also is it just me or did that mask he's wearing turn him into a sour person.

as for CB: well if i have nothing nice to say best not to steer up form attack. as you much i love those guys... heh

Colasour: in my opinion is the luckiest man alive in the series and worthy of his nickname.

lastly, the Innovators: i have no love for them whatsoever. it's my hope that them and CB take each other out in the end and the world returns back to what it was or at lest something close.

Edited by Zexion01, 22 December 2008 - 06:22 AM.

[Stargazer]

well you sound like an a law i guess. heres the thing. your cheering for the A laws. most other people are cheering for the meisters. Odds are you will never be satisfied if you like the antagonist and you cheer for them more then the protagonists.

Of course I won't be satisfied, the writers on Gundam 00 are idiots. They are potraying hypocritical pretentious terrorists as the good guys, the writing is just terrible, They condemn A-LAW's for killing terrorists, yet CB has killed countless innocent soldiers who were fighting for their country.

Of course i'm not going to like the protagonists in G00, they are terrible, they are irritating, they are pieces of shit that deserve to die, they are completely unrelateable. You've got four hypocrites, a super analyst in sumeragi which is a load of shit, space loli's who do nothing and emo boy Saji, not one character in Celestial Being is likeable, except Fon Spaark, I like Fon.

Yes jail them of course. then again they did just laser a bunch of them in the face and that was because they didnt want to join the united nations and they disagreed with their actions.

You need to rewatch the episode and actually read the dialogue. The federation has been fine with people not joining them, they have for four years. It wasn't "if you don't join us, you die," they lasered Seel because they housed terrorists who have been attacking civilian targets and military targets in the federation for the last 3 years.

Seel was teching up for a war, something which multiple characters testified to and the leader of Seel was openly hostile towards the federation. It was a pre-emptive strike by the A-LAW's to subvert a war that could've potentially killed more people then the amount that died in the laser fire.

does that sound like the good thing to do? whipe them out when they disagree with you?

Once again, it wasn't because they disagreed with the federation, it was because they were preparing for war with them. If you know an enemy is going to attack you, do you wait for them to do it? No. You strike first and end it quickly with minimal loss of life.

also no abuse? so you call Saji who was a "suspected terrorist" being forced to work in a high gravity enviroment with inproper gear not abuse? some of the people collapsed from the physical demand of it.

Please re-read my post before posting such idiotic shit. I said non-terrorist prisoners get treated well enough. Terrorists have no rights, they deserve no rights, they've been attacking federation civilians for quite a while, they killed Captain Ginin's wife in one such attack.

And I know what you, or anyone else Anti A-LAWS are going to say, "WAAH! But the A-LAWS killed civilians!" but here's my rebuttle, they didn't specifically target civilians, Lindt didn't go "LOL! Let's fire this laser at civilians intentionally!" He shot the laser at the capital to kill the corrupt politicians who wanted to start a war and house terrorists. Morally it's wrong, no doubt about that, but war is war, you can't expect to fuck with the federation, house their enemies and think they'll avoid shooting you.

The deaths of the people in the capital are all the fault of thier leaders. If they had left the federation alone, the federation would've left them alone, simple as that. But they wanted resources from the federation without joining them, pure selfishness.

But regardless, think how many people in that COUNTRY have been saved with the federation taking over. There was wide spread poverty in Seel, yet the leaders obviously withheld enough money to beef up their military of enacts, to live in lavish palaces and to live a very comfortable life. The politicans let their people starve, with the federation in control, money and supplies will come to Seel, something of which will save countless lives from starvation, sickness and bring peace to a distabilized area.

they couldnt say for sure there would be no collateral damage. that was the first time they fired the weapon. the shockwave could have been bigger then they predicted.

They could take a pretty damn good guess. There's no doubt in my mind that they simulated the hell out of this laser, while purely theoritical, it still gives you a VERY GOOD idea of the destructive capabilities of a weapon.

So let me get this straight. you would support nuking a country and killing all of its people just to eliminate the select few people who wish to fight your country in there. im sorry but i cant agree with that sort of logic. frankly its wrong in my opinion.

Learn 2 Read plz.

I support nuking a city to kill off corrupt leaders who want to start a war, house terrorists, let their own people starve, squander their countries wealth for themselves and cause unecessary death.

Face it, the Federation SAVED Seel. They sacrificed the few to save the many.

also there is no good or evil stargazer. there is a opinion of right and wrong held by different people and it appears our views of right and wrong conflict. when it comes down to it mankind are violent animals. we vicously attack eachother because frankly we just dont like each other. this is why mankind will never change. however i like to think that there is still hope for humanity. these are my beliefs. you may disagree with them but i will respect your opinion. i may challenge it now and again but i still respect them.

*cough HITLER cough*

You don't think Hitler is evil? Something is wrong with you, you make me sick you terrible human being.

im gonna keep watching the anime no matter what your personal opinion is. i enjoy the series even if it has its own issues. every series has issues. however i get past that and keep enjoying the series as a form of entertainment.

This is what, the third time i've asked you to learn to read over the course of this post?

I never said don't watch Gundam 00, in fact I never said anything even remotely close to that.

And if you're entertained by shit, then that's your prerogative, however I have standards, and I don't lower them for shit like this.

Let's see what Gundam 00 does wrong:

- Completely unrelateable and boring protagonists
- Insanely one sided battles, thereby making such battles boring and predictable (BIG SPOILER: CB WINS AGAIN)
- A terrible storyline
- Pretentious bullshit
- Hypocriscy at every corner
- More screen time given to shit like Saji instead of heroes like Captain Ginin
- Predictability in how CB wins battles (god forbid they train and become better pilots, they need to have HAX gundams and continiously upgrade them)
- Lack of any knowledge in tactics what so ever (I don't know what Sunrise is fucking smoking, but really tacticians don't do things by seconds i.e. at 13 seconds this will happen i.e. FUCK YOU SUMERAGI)
- 2 dimensional protagonists

Sorry, but that's too much bullshit for me to overlook, but why do I keep watching? Well let's take a look!

SHIT GUNDAM 00 DOES RIGHT:

- ALI
- PATRICK
- LOUISE
- INNOVATORS
- RIBBONS
- Okay mech designs

also i just watched ep 12. not bad for the most part. 00 is really spazzy in combat.

00 SUCKS DICK. God forbid we have at least one enjoyable fight over the course of this piece of shit series, one sided battles AREN'T INTERESTING IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

Edit: I love the hypocracy in your bullshit

then again they did just laser a bunch of them in the face and that was because they didnt want to join the united nations and they disagreed with their actions.

You've stated that this type of ideal is wrong? Yet you think CB are good?

I take it you've completely forgotten CB killing everyone who didn't agree with them?

Edited by Stargazer, 22 December 2008 - 09:46 AM.

[Dark Lord Revan]

I've got problems with both of you really -_-

RE4 pls watch the show more carefully. I doubt you have a clear view of the facts, for example, which of the trinitys actually shot louise's parents. Come to that, its also pointless since louise never saw which one fired, nor does nena probably remember. Which brings me to another point. Nena is not 'that female pilot'. If you cant bother to remember....dont bother to argue.

SG, remember that the states didnt nuke iraq, iran, n. korea, china, vietnam, pakistan, afghanistan or any other number countries who have threatened war and/or housed terrorists. Of course i dont count the soviets cuse they also had nukes to deter them. Nuking someone cuse they house terrorists and talk about going to war does not justify ANY form of physical lethal attack.

In fact if you think about it, such a thing is a terrorist act. Its illegal. It terrorises the remaining population. Its a way of showing others that 'our way is the right way'. And dont think that just becausse a government did it its not. In the 1980s the indonesian goverment used commando assests to carry out terror operations in my country over political reasons.

And another thing...if you think terrorists have no rights, you're wrong too. My RoE (rules of engagement) consider terrorists, when identified, to have the same rights as any legal combatant. Granted that terrorists doesnt have any RoE of his own, but thats not an excuse to throw out your own. Thats one thing about being a soldier, you have to fight by the rules even if your enemy doesnt. In WW2 hundreds of US soldiers died to jap booby traps or false surrenders, but still no US soldier ever used those same tactics.

I support nuking a city to kill off corrupt leaders who want to start a war, house terrorists, let their own people starve, squander their countries wealth for themselves and cause unecessary death.

Face it, the Federation SAVED Seel. They sacrificed the few to save the many.

As far as i can tell, your only right on the charges of wanting to start a war and housing terrorists. corruption, starvation, forced poverty....where the fuck did you get all that? And the federation saved seel? No, A-LAWS did. In a very Stalinish, authoritarian way of course.

When they fired the second time, they took out a military base. Bravo. Too bad about those refugees though. Im sure that if you had been one of those refugees, you'd gladly give your life for the greater good and let yourself be blown up.

Of course A-LAWS can say we didnt know about those refugees. Too bad they're autonomous, since such an incident, even if it really was an accident, wouldd earn the commanding officers discharges and early retirement.

Dont let yourself get carried away about the rightness of A-LAWS. I know where your coming from and i dont aggree CB is right. But A-LAWS isnt either.

Moving on, before RE4 manages to give me a stroke...here are two things i've never seen mobile suits do before. One, to actually have dedicated ejection units. I understand that mobile suits are much like foot soldiers and are more expendable than real-world pilots, but this was really absent in every single previous series. If im wrong, point it out for me.

Second....quantization. More descriptively, shifting the quantum state of the molecular structure in other to change the locality of said structure without moving within the normal 3-dimensional plane. Or more simply....teleportation.

EDIT: Im disappointed. I thought ep 13 would havve the new theme.

Edited by Dark Lord Revan, 30 December 2008 - 04:18 PM.