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[Vortigern]

Our bunch of lying arseholes that we didn't actually elect has decided to destroy the most important part of the British economy and leave future generations with only a fraction of the opportunities that we've had. And by future generations, I mean everyone not over 18 yet. My little brother's tuition fees will be as much as three times more as mine thanks to this new law. The real fun part is that the Liberal Democrats, the second part of the coalition in government, got elected on a platform of scrapping tuition fees, and have instead opted to raise them. They also said they'd reform the electoral system, but that's gone out the window too.

I don't want to live in this country any more.

[Ganon]

That strangely sounds like something my "representatives" would do...

Edited by Ganon2020, 10 December 2010 - 01:40 PM.

[Imdrar]

Yeah, choking off education seems to be a widespread trend amongst governments nowadays.

[Mathijs]

Yes indeed. My previous depression and the wasted year it caused will now be costing me 3000 euro's in extra tuition, if our new, glorious government gets their way.

Minor detail: My savings amount to 2100 euro's in total.

[Allathar]

Actually, depression counts as a medical condition which prevented you from passing your year. No need to cough up 3000 for that.

What irritates me is that the government is doing this for 300 million, while at the same time spending billions on cleaning up the mess Arab immigrants are causing, and even letting more come in the country every day. The government got priorities wrong - they need to start caring for their own citizens first, instead of caring for some dumb immigrants more.

[Vortigern]

Wait, are you saying the Netherlands is just as bad as us? Well that fucks up my backup plan. I was going to come live somewhere in the Dutch countryside, smoke plenty of weed and try to make a living writing. Now I'm going to have to think of something else. Hey, how hard do you think it would be to run for election? Or just shout at the Prime Minister a lot in a public forum?

[Allathar]

It's not as bad yet, Vort - we've finally managed to elect a guy (Geert Wilders) who has his priorities straight (own citizens above dumb immigrants). The opposition accuses him of being racist, but who cares, I bet if he wasn't here then the Netherlands would be another state run by leftards who make live a hell for everyone except for the immigrants.

[Mathijs]

Wrong, it doesn't count as a medical condition because I didn't visit a shrink for months at a time to get them to sign some release form stating my temporary "insanity". The government should not be spending hundreds of millions of euros on a new jet fighter, or sending new Dutch troops to do whatever in Afghanistan.

Only a fool cuts on education. Especially if that fool wants to create an economy with knowledge as its number 1 export product.

Wait, are you saying the Netherlands is just as bad as us? Well that fucks up my backup plan. I was going to come live somewhere in the Dutch countryside, smoke plenty of weed and try to make a living writing. Now I'm going to have to think of something else. Hey, how hard do you think it would be to run for election? Or just shout at the Prime Minister a lot in a public forum?

Ignore Allathar, Geert Wilders is a big part of the problem, if your problem is cutting on education. The biggest party in the coalition, VVD, initially said they would not cut on education, but now that they're together with Geert's freakshow and some other undemocratic party, things have suddenly turned around completely.

But you are still welcome to come over, 3k isn't 10k, and I've got a room to spare.

Also, Allathar, what the hell man. You were once somewhat reasonable, but now you're just spouting baseless populism everywhere you go.

Edited by Matias, 10 December 2010 - 06:40 PM.

[Allathar]

Yeah, agreed. As right-winger I'm happy with the current government, but this even I can't talk right...

[Mathijs]

Yeah, agreed. As right-winger I'm happy with the current government, but this even I can't talk right...

Well, as long as we can agree on this, we're cool. I just cannot comprehend how they think cutting on education could ever be a good idea. Today's announcement, they're saying they're cutting in education, but then investing those cuts in education. I am not kidding. Essentially, this just leads to a larger schism between rich and poor; its far more expensive to get a degree because let's face it, to get a good degree with proper experience 5 years is NOT enough, but the education does get better (if they invest in its quality) so that the rich can be richer and the poor can be dumber.

Fuck.

[Allathar]

Only thing that cheers me up is the fact that it's not as bad as in the UK yet.

Sorry Vort.

[Mathijs]

I'm not natured so vicariously, but I must say this; you Brits aren't being very clever about this. I saw British students attacked a car with Prince Charles in it today, in some random fit of madness. Now, I don't have any personal qualms against attacking royalty, but this will just cause them to be considered as violent idiots who dared attack the Son of the QUEEEEEEEN. The QUEEEEEEEN. You know. That's like handing the politicians the gun to shoot you down with.

[{IRS}Athos]

I read the article about the protest, and unless it was inaccurate, the cap's what, the equivalent of $14,000 now?

The average American college I've looked at is twice that yearly. Blech.

[Elvenlord]

Yep. Mine's not quite twice that, but it's a public school. God help you if want to go to a private school.


Speaking of, I have my first final in an hour. In calculus.

[Mathijs]

I read the article about the protest, and unless it was inaccurate, the cap's what, the equivalent of $14,000 now?

The average American college I've looked at is twice that yearly. Blech.

But just because the American system is fucked up beyond belief doesn't mean $14,000 is an acceptable price for British students. Just saying.

[{IRS}Athos]

True, true. Still, my mom's response to the article was to laugh and

Spoiler

mildly mock the British for the terrible tribulations they were going through

. She already has my sister in college, and me next year...

[Vortigern]

You get petrol at half the price we do. Your taxes are lower. You have a genuinely accountable government. It's not all bad in America.

On a related note, I just stumbled across a Facebook group called "Why did Nick Clegg cross the road? Because he said he wouldn't." I found this pleasantly accurate. It also has a link to the group "There are two things I don't like about Nick Clegg: his face." The internet will get you back, Mr Clegg. There is no escape.

[Ganon]

You get petrol at half the price we do. Your taxes are lower. You have a genuinely accountable government. It's not all bad in America.

Hell yeah! That makes me feel so much better. To see someone, who isn't from The United States, say anything good about us is awesome.
...Lately, I've been under the impression that anytime we try to help people out, or attempt to do some good in the world, all we end up doing is piss everybody off, and make everyone hate us.

Edited by Ganon2020, 11 December 2010 - 01:31 PM.

[drogoth232]

On the other hand. We just bought Dragon Ball Raging Blast 2. And it has no story mode, so that REALLY SUCKS!

DBZ story mode has been played out,every single DBZ game has had more or less the same story done.
I played it in Budokai 1-3,then Tenkaichi 1-3 again.

I know, but I'd rather have an over played Story mode with awsome graphics rather than no story mode at all. Its just endless fighting with occasional scripts thrown in (SS2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta is an example. In both normal battle and Galaxy mode you will hear the same text, at least it isnt repetitive).

I vent that after getting World At War, there is a level my brother and I cant beat. And after giving up (quitting) we realized that we forgot to save (if you even could) and have to start all over. ARGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vortigern]

You get petrol at half the price we do. Your taxes are lower. You have a genuinely accountable government. It's not all bad in America.

Hell yeah! That makes me feel so much better. To see someone, who isn't from The United States, say anything good about us is awesome.
...Lately, I've been under the impression that anytime we try to help people out, or attempt to do some good in the world, all we end up doing is piss everybody off, and make everyone hate us.

That's because America's history with foreign policy is atrocious and shows no signs of improving. Stick to doing good in your own country and instantly everyone's opinion of the USA will rise dramatically. Quick recap: turned up late to both World Wars and have since been claiming credit for winning both (while I admit the USA played a massive role in WW2, WW1 was basically over by the time American troops showed up in May 1918. The hard work had already been done), invaded Korea (still not sure why), wrongly labelled Cuba communists and forced them to side with the USSR, which was a real bullet-meets-foot moment, engaged in an unbelievably costly arms race with the USSR, invaded Vietnam because of some crackpot theory, the implementation of which did the cause it was trying to prevent far more good than simply ignoring it would have, and 9 years ago declared war on an abstract concept (my personal favourite). The lesson here is: when America gets involved with other people, they cock it up. Concentrate on education and tolerance within the USA and your standard of living will rise exponentially. But before you get all tolerant, take out a collective hit on the Westboro Baptists.

The anger I wish to vent here is that the USA will never achieve its potential. In 2 years Obama will lose and the Republican candidate (God forbid Sarah Palin) will undo all his progressive steps and continue attempting to redesign the world in America's image.