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[Retharias]

Great job on the map! This outdoes EVERY map i've ever seen.

[Souske22]

We must clone Haldir to ensure his awesome map making skills survive forever! Great work on it cant wait for the update to finally chop down a few million Orks and Uruks

[Kwen]

Million? That would take a very long time.

[Lauri]

Well, the replay value of this map... yeah

[_Haldir_]

This was an interesting question sent to me in a PM, which i thought i'd answer here:

That is one epic map. And on BFME I, too. How in the world did u get your mod team to give you so many custom models?

I didn't have to ask, it was more a case of Nertea's dedication to the mod In our staff forums, i started the map with the assets that were already in the mod. After seeing what i came up with originally, Nertea could more easily see what could be made, and got to modelling. And because the map is one of the mod's more important maps, the team was more than happy to put in the effort to make it as good as it could possibly be.

It was more a combined approach to the map, rather than "i'm the mapper, so make some models for me". As a mapper, it's easier for me to map based on the assets i have already, rather than make someone model a piece based on what i have laid out So it was more a case of Nertea making a huge bunch of objects, which i then got to play with, and show to the team for critism/feedback.

I really didn't have any preconceived idea of the custom models, until they were made by Nertea/Andros. The first version of the map i showed to the team looks very different to the version that is in the update

A little side note to give you an idea of the work that's gone into this map:
I originally laid out my concept for the map in April this year, making it a 4 month long project - a huge time for just one map, when i normally finish a map in 1-2 weeks. My concept was also based off a layout that m@tt had done for RA in early 2007, so you could even say this map's been in the works for 3 and a half years

[{IRS}Athos]

If only I had your dedication, I would have finished at least one map by now.

[ACDC]

I'm glad people like the map . It'll be in the next public update, though I'm not quite sure when it'll be.

Is there any approximate date for the next update?

[_Haldir_]

Isn't that question answered in your own quotation?

There's also this update in case you haven't seen it.

[_Haldir_]

Not especially no, those marksmen in the screenshots are just civilian units that run around. There are several watchotwers around the town that will belong to whichever team owns the outpost in the middle though, so there are definitely added bonuses to capturing the outpost. Recruitable marksmen was something we thought about, but decided that it would be too unbalanced if the Erebor player held the outpost, the surrounding towers and extra reinforcements on top of that. And it would look a little funny if say a Mordor player captured the Dale outpost, and started spawning marksmen of the thrush .

Glad you like it .

[Fudge]

Truly awe inspiring, This is the first map I've seen That's made my jaw drop.

Without a doubt you are the best mapper I've seen around (It makes me glad you create BFME 1 Maps).

[{IP}Solstice]

Is their going to be ai for the fortress?

[_Haldir_]

Maybe eventually, though it requires a lot of complicated scripting, which i'm no expert at . Mostly likely the Erebor fortress will only be player controlled for the next release.

[{IP}Solstice]

Thanks Haldir my friend was wondering.

[Námo]

I guess the next release will be a truly "long expected party".

Edited by Námo, 25 July 2011 - 07:16 AM.

[Baki]

You do realize that this update was posted long ago (July 2nd) and not today, right?

[{IP}Solstice]

Super bump?

[_Haldir_]

Oh Namo, you so silly

[Mr.IAmHere]

Way Way better than EA's version

[Yarrum]

Does the gatehouse archer upgrade apply to the gatehouse on this map?