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[Unknown]

Hi everyone
Everyone has known me to be that person who makes a mod and then just abandondes it after 1 week.
I have learned my lesson and have gained a lot more skills.
I present the mod; "From Book to Game".
This mod will be working on each faction seperatley at a time.

The Lord of the Rings
The Battle for Middle-Earth II
Book to Game
Chapter I: The Shadow in the Mountains (Wild)
Chapter II: The Shadow of the East (Mordor)
Chapter III: "The Treason of Isengard" (Isengard)
Chapter IV: The Forgotten Strength (Men)
Chapter V: The Passing of the Elves (Elves)
Chapter VI: Kingdoms Reforged (Dwarves)

When a faction has been worked on for a considerable amount of time and has enough to play with, then the next faction will be worked on as well as the original.

But what I am planning to do is bring the lore somewhat into gameplay.
As an example, taking certain things that compel against the Lore of Tolkien and adding things in that can be used nicely ingame as well as being Lore friendly.

First the Goblins (or Wild as I call the faction) will be worked on.
The tech tree for this faction has been completed:

Chapter I
The Shadow in the Mountains

*Units:

-Goblin Warriors:
--Cost = 100
--Bought at Cave Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Scavenged Armour
---Banner Carriers
---Forged blades
---At Rank 5 they gain Poisen blades
---Toggle between Poisen blades and Forged blades

-Goblin Archers:
--Cost = 150
--Bought at Cave Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Scavenged Armour
---Banner Carriers
---Fire Arrows
---At Rank 5 they gain Poisen arrows
---Toggle between Poisen arrows and Fire arrows

-Goblin Spearmen
--Cost = 300
--Bought at Cave Rank 1
Upgrades:
---Scavenged Armour
---Banner Carriers
---Forged Blades
---At Rank 5 they gain Poisen blades
---Toggle betweeb Poisen blades and Forged blades

-Goblin Drummer
--Cost = 500
--Bought at Cave Rank 2
--Abilities:
---Rank 1: Leadership to Goblins and Moria units
---Rank 5: Howl of Rage

-Moria Uruks
--Cost = 800
--Bought at Cave Rank 3
--Upgrades:
---Scavenged Armour
---Banner Carriers
---Moria Blades
--Requires:
---Hidden Jewels
--Limit = 4 Hordes

-Half Troll Maruaders
--Cost = 1200
--Bought at Cave Rank 3
--Upgrades:
---Mithril Mail
---Banner Carriers
---Forged Blades
--Requires:
---Hidden Jewels
--Limit = 4 Hordes

-Gundaband Orcs
--Cost = 50
--Bought at Gundaband Den Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carriers
--Requires:
---Gundaband Alliance

-Gundaband Wolf Riders
--Cost = 500
--Bought at Gundaband Den Rank 2
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carriers
--Requires:
---Gundaband Alliance

-Warg Scouts
--Cost = 250
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carriers
---Deadly Bite

-Goblin Warg Riders
--Cost = 700
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Scavenged Armour
---Banner Carriers
---Forged blades
---At Rank 5 they gain Poisen blades
---Toggle Between Poisen blades and Forged blades

-Cave Troll
--Cost = 1000
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 2
--Upgrades:
---Olog-Hai

-Eregion Troll Horde
--Cost = 800
--Bought at the Monster Lair Rank 2
--Upgrades:
---Olog-Hai

-Fire Drake Horde
--Cost = 1200
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 3

-Cold Drake Horde
--Cost = 1200
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 3

*Upgrades:

-Banner Carriers:
--Cost = 600
--Bought at Treasure Trove Rank 1
--Upgrading Cost = 200

-Scavenged Armour
--Cost = 1000
--Bought at Treasure Trove Rank 2
--Upgrading Cost = 250

-Forged Blades
--Cost = 1200
--Bought at Treasure Trove Rank 2
--Upgrading Cost = 300

-Fire Arrows
--Cost = 1200
--Bought at Treasure Trove Rank 2
--Upgrading Cost = 600

-Mithril Mail
--Cost = 1500
--Bought at Treasure Trove Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 500
--Very powerful armour

-Moria Blades
--Cost = 1500
--Bought at Treasure Trove Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 500
--Devastating damage

-Foul Bite
--Cost = 800
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 300
--Increase the attack damage on warg related units

-Olog-Hai
--Cost = 800
--Bought at Monster Lair Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 600
--Trolls are resistant to the sunlight

-Hidden Jewels
--Cost = 1000
--Bought at Mine Rank 3
--All mine production is increased by 25%

*Structures:

-Fortress
--Cost = 5000
--Builders
--Hero's
--Upgrades:
---Gundaband Alliance
----Cost = 500
----Requires = Cave
---Cave Bats
----Cost = 1000
----Requires = Gundaband Alliance
---Razor Walls
----Cost = 1500
----Requires = Cave Bats
---Web Cocoon
----Cost = 2500
----Requires = Razor Walls
---Dragon Nest
----Cost = 3500
----Requires = Web Cocoon
--Defence Foundations:
---Arrow Tower
----Cost = 600
---Network Tunnel
----Cost = 300
---Spider Tunnel
----Cost = 500
----Requires = Web Cocoon

-Mine
--Cost = 300
--Rank 3: Hidden Jewels
--Gathers Resources
--Has Tunnel Network

-Lumber Mill
--Cost = 400
--Harvests Trees for Resources

-Cave
--Cost = 400
--Rank 1: Goblin Warriors, Goblin Archers, Goblin Spearmen
--Rank 2: Goblin Drummer
--Rank 3: Half Troll Marauders, Moria Uruks
--Builds Infantry

-Gundaband Den
--Cost = 300
--Rank 1: Gundaband Orcs
--Rank 2: Gundaband Wolf Riders
--Builds Gundaband Units
--Requires = Gundaband Alliance

-Monster Lair
--Cost = 700
--Rank 1: Warg Scouts, Goblin Warg Riders
--Rank 2: Cave Trolls, Eregion Trolls
--Rank 3: Fire Drakes, Cold Drakes, Foul Bite, Olog-Hai
--Builds Creatures and Monsters

-Treasure Trove
--Cost = 1000
--Rank 1: Banner Carriers
--Rank 2: Scavenged Armour, Forged Blades, Fire Arrows
--Rank 3: Mithril Mail, Moria Blades
--Researches Upgrades

-Tower
--Cost = 800
--Upgrades:
---Fire Arrows
---Poison Arrows
--Defensive Building
--Can garrison up to 2 hordes

-Dark Statue
--Cost = 250
--Gives ATK, DEF & EXP bonus to nearby troops

*Hero's:

-Goblin King
--Cost = 1500
--Rank 2: Mount Warg
--Rank 4: Leadership to Goblins
--Rank 6: Howl (only when mounted
--Rank 10: Summon 1 horde of Warriors, Archers and Spearmen

-Shelob
--Cost = 1500
--Rank 3: Leadership to Creaturs & Monsters
--Rank 5: Poison Stinger
--Rank 7: Summon 2 hordes of Spiderlings
--Rank 10: Dig Tunnel

-Moria Uruk Cpt.
--Cost = 1200
--Rank 1: Leadership to Marauders and Moria Uruks
--Rank 3: Poisoned Blade
--Rank 7: Carnage

-Gundaband Orc Jrl.
--Cost = 1200
--Rank 1: Leadership to Gundaband Units
--Rank 4: Inspire Fear (Passive)
--Rank 6: Toggle Weapon
--Requires: Gundaband Alliance

-Troll of High Pass
--Cost = 2000
--Rank 1: Leadership to Creatures and Monsters
--Rank 4: Dominate Lair
--Rank 7: Berserk
--Rank 10: Summon 2 Mt. Giants

-Drogoth
--Cost = 3000
--Rank 1: Leadership to Drakes
--Rank 4: Fireball
--Rank 10: Kill Target Unit
--Requires: Dragons Nest

-Dragon
--Cost = 3000
--Rank 1: Fly
--Rank 4: Fireball
--Rank 10: Destroy target Building
--Requires: Dragons Nest

-Dragon
--Cost = 5000
--Rank 2: Fireball
--Rank 4: Roar
--Rank 7: Leadership to all Units
--Rank 10: Summon 3 drakes
--Requires: Dragons Nest

-Balrog
--Cost = 10000
--Rank 1: Fly
--Rank 3: Toggle Whip
--Rank 5: Massive bonus to all units
--Rank 7: Screech
--Rank 10: Dominating Force
--Requires: The One Ring

*Spellbook:

-1
--Name: War chant
--Cost = 5

-2
--Name: Scavenger
--Cost = 5

-3
--Name: Drums in the deep
--Cost = 8
--All Goblins are 10% cheaper

-4
--Name: Blizzard
--Cost = 10
--Drastic wind swoops enemies around

-5
--Name: Watcher in the Water
--Cost = 10

-6
--Name: Iced Land
--Cost = 12
--The ground is covered in ice thus making it harder for enemies to move, but easier for Wild units

-7
--Name: Snow
--Cost = 10
--Snow starts to fall giving Wild units leadership but removing enemy leadership

-8
--Name: March of Gundaband
--Cost = 15
--Summons 4 hordes of Orcs, and 2 hordes of Wolf Riders

-9
--Name: Power of Shadow
--Cost = 18
--All Wild hero's gain 25% ATK & DEF bonuses and their ability timers reacharge 25% quicker

-10
--Name: Avalanche
--Cost = 20
--An avalanche of snow comes crashing down destroying friends or foes

-11
--Name: Flames of the Abyss
--Cost = 25
--Meteors of fire come crashing down

-12
--Name: Colds of the mountain
--Cost = 25
--All units and buildings in the radius are freezed for 3 minutes (effects all players)

It seems quite balanced to me.
(If you wish to comment or critisize, then please be welcome to)

Now, the help I need at the moment is a mapper and possibly a skinner (yes I understand that most skinners are working on their own projects)

I will be the head coder a, modeller and a skinner.
Help will be very much appreciated

Edited by Unknown, 21 November 2011 - 05:04 PM.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

You should change the names of Chapters V and VI.
How about The passing of the Elves and Kingdoms reforged.

[Unknown]

That sounds much better.
Thx Rad

[Bashkuga]

A new mod! Brings back some life into the community. Good luck with it .

[Unknown]

A new mod! Brings back some life into the community. Good luck with it .

Thank you Fredius
I really wish the community could grow again

[Bashkuga]

Yes.. good old times.. it was cool when everyone had such awesome ideas, many newbies who demanded so much from the modder . Hot topics are very rare latety, the discussions where every 2 minutes someone posted something, but now nobody has the time anymore and there are only a handfull mods left , well what happens just happens and I hope there are members who have the time to get in your team .

Edited by Fredius, 21 November 2011 - 07:52 PM.

[Unknown]

Yes.. good old times.. it was cool when everyone had such awesome ideas, many newbies who demanded so much from the modder . Hot topics are very rare latety, the discussions where every 2 minutes someone posted something, but now nobody has the time anymore and there are only a handfull mods left , well what happens just happens and I hope there are members who have the time to get in your team .

Thank you again
I wish people could join my mod.
But as you said, where do we find the time :(
All I need is a mapper, a skinner and a modeller.
The coding will be well up to date as I have pretty much all day everyday to work on it
I'm practicing my artwork skills and learning skinning and modelling.
But I promise one thing, this mod, will, succeed!!
All it needs is the help of this community.

[Kwen]

I wish you good luck with the mod. I think it would be alright for you to work on tiny bits and pieces of other factions even when the focus is on one. Even if you don't publicly release or show anything, it helps keep you out of a rut when you can branch off on various bits of inspiration. Spending 100% of your time on ONE faction will get boring, fast. Thus, dead mod.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Spending 100% of your time on one faction will get boring, fast. Thus, dead mod.

Tell me about it.
My recommendation work on 2 factions at a time, work on 1 for a week or so and then switch it keeps you focused on the smaller details but adds
enough variety to keep it interesting.
That's what I've been doing with LWR.

Another thing is as you are working on a mod your skills improve (sometimes quite dramatically) and things change so keep a list of milestones and every so often
go back over your work to see if there's anything that can be improved or updated to fit in with newer stuff.
Something I learned from old LW.

[Unknown]

Thank you everyone
I didn't want to do too many factions because then I would feel like too much work thus making it a dead mod as well.
But I'll work on part of Chapter II aswell.
Here's the tech tree for Mordor:

Chapter II
The Shadow of the East

*Units:

-Orc Warriors
--Cost = 100
--Built at Orc Pit Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier

-Orc Archers
--Cost = 250
--Built at Orc Pit Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Fire Arrows

-Orc Spearmen
--Cost = 300
--Built at Orc Pit Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier

-Orc Cpt.
--Cost = 500
--Built at Orc Pit Rank 2
--Rank 1: Leadership to Orcs
--Rank 5: Carnage

-Morgul Orcs
--Cost = 800
--Built at Orc Pit Rank 3
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Morgul Blades
---Heavy Armour
--Requires:
---Morgul Blades
---Morgul Armour
---Morgul Vale
--Limit = 4 Hordes

-Morgul Uruks
--Cost = 1000
--Built at Orc Pit Rank 3
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Forged Blades
---Morgul Armour
--Requires:
---Morgul Blades
---Morgul Armour
---Morgul Vale
--Limit = 4 Hordes

-Haradrim Scouts
--Cost = 200
--Built at Haradrim Barracks Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
--Requires:
---Haradrim Alliance

-Haradrim Archers
--Cost = 400
--Built at Haradrim Barracks Rank 2
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Fire Arrows
--Requires:
---Haradrim Alliance

-Haradrim Lancers
--Cost = 700
--Built at Haradrim Barracks Rank 3
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Forged Blades
---Heavy Armour
--Requires:
---Haradrim Alliance

-Easterling Pikemen
--Cost = 500
--Built at Rhun Barracks Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Forged Blades
--Requires:
---Rhun Alliance

-Easterling Swordsmen
--Cost = 700
--Built at Rhun Barracks Rank 2
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Forged Blades
--Requires:
---Rhun Alliance

-Easterling Bodyguards
--Cost = 1200
--Built at Rhun Barracks Rank 3
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Forged Blades
---Heavy Armour
--Requires:
---Rhun Alliance

-Corsairs of Umbar
--Cost = 600
--Built at Tavern Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier
---Forged Blades

-Orc Warg Riders
--Cost = 600
--Built at Beast Den Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---Banner Carrier

-Mountain Troll
--Cost = 800
--Built at Beast Den Rank 2

-Drummer Troll
--Cost = 800
--Built at Beast Den Rank 2
--Rank 1: Leadership to Infantry
--Rank 5: Howl of Rage

-Attack Troll
--Cost = 1200
--Built at Beast Den Rank 3
--Rank 1: Dominate Troll
--Rank 5: Berserk Rage

-Mumakil
--Cost = 2000
--Built at Oliphaunt Pen Rank 1
--Upgrades:
---War Paint
--Rank 1: Charge
--Rank 5: Berserk Rage
--Can garrison 1 horde of units
--Requires:
---Harad Alliance

-Battering Ram
--Cost = 400
--Built at Siege Works Rank 1

-Catapult
--Cost = 700
--Built at Siege Works Rank 1

-Siege Tower
--Cost = 1000
--Built at Siege Works Rank 2

-Grond
--Cost = 4000
--Built at Siege Works Rank 3

*Upgrades:

-Banner Carrier
--Cost = 800
--Researched at Tavern Rank 1
--Upgrading Cost = 300

-Forged Blades
--Cost = 1000
--Researched at Tavern Rank 2
--Upgrading Cost = 500

-Heavy Armour
--Cost = 1200
--Researched at Tavern Rank 2
--Upgrading Cost = 400

-Fire Arrows
--Cost = 1500
--Researched at Tavern Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 300

-Morgul Blades
--Cost = 1500
--Researched at Tavern Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 300

-Morgul Armour
--Cost = 1500
--Researched at Tavern Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 300

-War Paint
--Cost = 1000
--Researched at Oliphaunt Pen Rank 3
--Upgrading Cost = 400

*Buildings

-Fortress
--Builders
--Hero's
--Upgrades:
---Harad Alliance
----Cost = 1000
---Doom Pyres
----Cost = 500
----Requires = Harad Alliance
---Lava Moat
----Cost = 1500
----Requires = Doom Pyres
---Rhun Alliance
----Cost = 2000
----Requires = Lava Moat
---Fire Arrows
----Cost = 2000
----Requires = Rhun Alliance
---Morgul Vale
----Cost = 2500
----Requires = Rhun Alliance
---Gorgoroth Eye
----Cost = 3000
----Requires = Morgul Vale
--Defence Foundations:
---Arrow Tower Expansion
----Cost = 600
---Watcher
----Cost = 1200
---Catapult
----Cost = 1800
---Wall Hub
----Cost = 300

-Slaughter House
--Cost = 300
--Gathers Resources

-Lumber Mill
--Cost = 400
--Harvests trees for Resources

-Orc Pit
--Cost = 400
--Rank 1: Orc warriors, orc archers, orc pikemen, Grishnak
--Rank 2: Orc Cpt., Gorbag
--Rank 3: Morgul Orcs, Morgul uruks, Shagrat
--Constructs orc infantry

-Harad Barracks
--Cost = 600
--Rank 1: Haradrim Scouts
--Rank 2: Haradrim Archers
--Rank 3: Haradrim Lancers
--Constructs Harad Units
--Requires = Harad Alliance

-Rhun Barracks
--Cost = 800
--Rank 1: Easterling Pikemen
--Rank 2: Easterling Swordsmen
--Rank 3: Easterling Guards
--Constructs Easterlings
--Requires = Rhun Alliance

-Beast Den
--Cost = 1200
--Rank 1: Orc Warg Riders
--Rank 2: Mountain Troll, Drummer Troll
--Rank 3: Attack Troll
--Constructs Beasts

-Oliphaunt Pen
--Cost = 800
--Rank 1: Mumakil
--Rank 3: War Paint
--Constructs Mumakil

-Siege Works
--Cost = 800
--Rank 1: Catapult, Battering Ram
--Rank 2: Siegetower
--Rank 3: Grond
--Constructs Siege Equipment

-Tavern
--Cost = 1000
--Rank 1: Corsairs, Banner Carrier
--Rank 2: Forged Blades, Heavy Armour
--Rank 3: Fire Arrows, Morgul Blades, Morgul Armour
--Researches upgrades and recruits corsairs

-Tower
--Cost = 800
--Upgrades:
---Fire Arrows
--Defensive Building
--Can garrison up to two hordes

-Statue
--Cost = 250
--Gives ATK, DEF & EXP bonuses to units within radius

-WallHub
--Cost = 800
--Defensive wall

*Hero's

-Nazgul
--Cost = 2000
--Can build 7 Nazgul's
--Rank 1: Mount/dismount Horse
--Rank 3: Dread Gaze
--Rank 6: Morgul Blade
--Rank 9: Screech
--Rank 10: Mount/dismount Fellbeast

-The Mouth of Sauron
--Cost = 1200
--Rank 1: Mount/dismount Horse
--Rank 4: Anti-Leadership to enemy units
--Rank 8: Convert enemy alligiance for 3 minutes

-Grishnak
--Cost = 500
--Rank 1: Attach Spy
--Rank 5: Leadership to Orcs
--Built at Orc Pit

-Gorbag
--Cost = 800
--Rank 1: Leadership to Orcs
--Rank 5: Carnage
--Built at Orc Pit

-Shagrat
--Cost = 1000
--Rank 1: Carnage
--Rank 5: Leadership to Uruks
--Built at Orc Pit

-Great Troll
--Cost = 2000
--Rank 1: Dominate Lair
--Rank 4: Leadership to monsters and creatures
--Rank 7: Summon 1 attack troll
--Rank 10: Berserk Rage

-Gothmog the Orc
--Cost = 1500
--Rank 3: Mount/dismount Warg
--Rank 5: Leadership to orcs
--Rank 7: Leadership to siege
--Rank 10: Summon 3 morgul orc hordes

-Khamul
--Cost = 4000
--On foot:
---Rank 1: Mount Horse
---Rank 4: Mount Fellbeast
---Rank 7: Morgul Blade
--On horse:
---Rank 1: Dismount Horse
---Rank 6: Dark Steed
--On fellbeast
---Rank 1: Dismount Fellbeast
---Rank 6: Great Fear
--All:
---Rank 3: Dread Gaze
---Rank 10: Screech
--Requires = Morgul Vale, Gorgoroth Eye

-The Witch-King of Angmar
--Cost = 5000
--On foot:
---Rank 1: Mount Horse
---Rank 3: Mount Fellbeast
---Rank 5: Morgul Blade
---Rank 10: Sword ingulfs in flame
--On horse:
---Rank 1: Dismount Horse
---Rank 6: Dark Steed
---Rank 10: Sword ingulfs in flame
--On fellbeast
---Rank 3: Dismount Fellbeast
---Rank 8: Great Roar
---Rank 10: Witch-Kings Hour
--All:
---Rank 3: Dread Gaze
---Rank 5: Screech
---Rank 10: Convert targeted units into wights (all players (except hero's))
--Requires = Morgul Vale, Gorgoroth Eye

-Sauron
--Cost = 10000
--Rank 10:
---Leadership to all allies (including hero's)
---Fear
---Great Dread Visage
---Meteor Strike
---Kill everything in radius (all players)
--Requires = The One Ring, The power of the ring, Gorgoroth Eye

*spellbook:

-1
--Name = Tainted Land
--Cost = 5

-2
--Name = Eye of Sauron
--Cost = 5

-3
--Name - War Chant
--Cost = 5

-4
--Name = Great March
--Cost = 10
--Friendly infantry in radius gain a 20% speed increase

-5
--Name = Slaves of Nurn
--Cost = 13
--Friendly buildings construct 15% quicker

-6
--Name = Summon Orcs
--Cost = 10
--Summons 2 hordes of: orc warriors, orc archers & 1 horde of: orc spearmen

-7
--Name = Darkness
--Cost = 12

-8
--Name = Sauron's Fist
--Cost = 18
-- Nazguls, The Witch-King and Khamul gain a 50% ATK, DEF & EXP bonus

-9
--Name = Morgul Vale
--Cost = 15
--Allows the construction of Morgul Units and the witch-king and Khamul

-10
--Name = The Power of the Ring
--Cost = 12
--Allows the construction of Sauron

-11
--Name = Meteor Strike
--Cost = 20

-12
--Name = Summon the great siege
--Cost = 30
--Summons:
---3 hordes of: orc warrior, orc archers & orc spearmen
---1 attack troll
---1 mountain troll
---1 drummer troll
---1 battering ram
---1 catapults

I made Sauron Godly-like, so that when he is brought, that is the end for the opposing team.
But also, he is very hard to bring out you need more then just the ring this time.
What do you people think?

On another note, CaH will be edited in soon time with a change of powers, new sub-classes and new equipment
I'll work on these 2 factions, and work on the CaH until the Beta is out (but only next year some)

[Unknown]

Progress so far:

Art:
Goblin Warg Riders complete
Easterling skin
Easterling Swordsmen

Coding:
Balrog as ring hero
Fire Drake mini horde

In progress:

Art:
New goblin skin
Goblin model with different armours (for LUA)
Goblin Swordsmen
Goblin Spearmen
Goblin Archer
Goblin Drummer
Easterling units
Cold Drake

Coding:
Balrog powers
Cold Drake coding

[ElessartheHigh]

That's sounds very promising ! But weren't Olog hai only present in Mordor and around Dol Guldur ? It's not a big matter , but I just wonder if the were any of them in Moria or in Hithaeglir .

[Unknown]

It's just an upgrade so that the trolls can be sun resistant

[Unknown]

By "other sorts of Trolls," Tolkien apparently meant the Olog-hai, a superior breed of Troll created by Sauron at the end of the Third Age. It is not known what method or stock Sauron used to breed this new kind of Troll. In an unpublished note, in what appears to be a reference to the Olog-hai, Tolkien suggested that "It would seem evident that they were corruptions of primitive human types." (HoME X, p. 414) The Olog-hai could withstand direct sunlight and they were more cunning than other Trolls. They were large and powerful and their skins were as hard as stone. They understood the Black Speech, though they rarely spoke. They lived near Sauron's stronghold of Dol Guldur in southern Mirkwood and in the mountains of Mordor. The Olog-hai were entirely under Sauron's command and acted solely in his service.

So yes, they were under his command but so were most if not all evil beings of Middle-Earth

[Unknown]

Trolls were generally rather stupid. They did not build or create anything. Trolls hoarded riches that they stole, and they often ate the people they robbed. Trolls had no language of their own, though some Stone-trolls in Eriador were able to speak the Common Speech and Sauron taught Trolls in his service the Black Speech.

I might give the Wild Trolls an ability like scavenger but they only pick up a small amount of cash.

Trolls were incredibly strong and powerful and difficult to kill. Their main weakness was that most Trolls turned to stone when exposed to sunlight.

Obviously I can't make them too strong due to GamePlay reasons.

Trolls dwelled in Mordor, southern Mirkwood, the Misty Mountains including Moria, and in the Ettenmoors in Eriador near the woods called the Trollshaws.

The Mordor and Mirkwood trolls would be counterfit for Mordor
and the rest would be for the Wild Faction.

On his adventure in 2941, Bilbo Baggins met three Trolls named Tom, Bert, and William Huggins. These Stone-trolls roamed the Trollshaws and they had a cave there where they kept the riches they acquired, including Glamdring, Orcrist, and Sting. It is not known where or from whom the Trolls obtained these swords.
Tom, Bert, and William spoke the Common Speech, though rather poorly. They ate mutton and passing travellers when they could get them. They were pleased to capture Bilbo and the thirteen Dwarves, but Gandalf tricked them into arguing over how to cook them until the sun rose and the three Trolls turned to stone. They remained there like statues; Frodo Baggins and his companions saw them 77 years later while travelling to Rivendell.

There will be a possibility of Tom, Will and Burt as an elite horde but not quite a hero horde.

[Unknown]

-Tom, Bert & William Huggins
--Cost = 1200
--Bought at the Fortress
--Rank 3: Pillage
--Rank 7: Berserk Rage

Forgot, they do turn to stone as well
They respawn at Rank 1 again.
Their max Rank is 7
And their berserk rage is unique *taps nose*

Edited by Unknown, 07 December 2011 - 02:58 PM.

[Mathijs]

I would appreciate it if you didn't simply copy and paste your ideas for SaF into this. Thanks.

[Unknown]

I would appreciate it if you didn't simply copy and paste your ideas for SaF into this. Thanks.

Sorry, I don't have the files anymore
What things did I copy?
I'll remove/change them to make them a bit unique

[Unknown]

Been away for a while.
Have been fixing my laptop and computer up.
But here is my progress so far:

Completed:
Easterling Archer
Easterling Swordsmen
Easterling Skin
Goblin Spearmen
Goblin Warg Rider

Going to do:
Goblin Drummer
Goblin Skins
Goblin Shield
Moria Uruks

Modboy was apart of my team but now he has left and is focusing on school.
My coder (who I will not name until he wants to) seems to have dissapeared (hoping he will return soon).
But now I need a second Skinner and Modeller.
I'm also gonna map a bit for the mod.

I had a question concerning a legal matter, am I legally allowed to put RotWK models/skins into Bfme2?
Or is it against Copyright laws to do so?
Cheers

[ElessartheHigh]

I'm glad to see your mod is progressing so far All you said is pleasing , I think it's very balanced for ideas now Good luck , don't give up .