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[MIG]

The comments about Siegefried was based on one of my matches as Euro Alliance last month. It's possibly that it was just due to my opponent's incompetence and not the unit itself.
While he was busy spamming Thors to stop my Wolfhounds, I threw a Borrilo with Pyros and Crazy Ivans at the back of his base, thus drawn away his attention. Then I have Volkov charge in, eat a Chrono Vortex and EMPed him, then send 3 drones and Siegefried is gone. The Thors later crashed, due to 12 Tsivils constantly firing.

BTW, the person who wrote this beat GOW huh? Didn't expect that.

If it's possible, I would like to observe his match just for once.

I can easily beat gow.

[MIG]

The comments about Siegefried was based on one of my matches as Euro Alliance last month. It's possibly that it was just due to my opponent's incompetence and not the unit itself.
While he was busy spamming Thors to stop my Wolfhounds, I threw a Borrilo with Pyros and Crazy Ivans at the back of his base, thus drawn away his attention. Then I have Volkov charge in, eat a Chrono Vortex and EMPed him, then send 3 drones and Siegefried is gone. The Thors later crashed, due to 12 Tsivils constantly firing.

BTW, the person who wrote this beat GOW huh? Didn't expect that.

If it's possible, I would like to observe his match just for once.

Are you free on Saturday?

[MIG]

lol. Since when is God of War the gold standard for MO3.0 skill level? :O

Anyway, thanks for translating this stuff. I had a hard time reading the Chinese version, with all the side comments and such.

Gow can beat most Players on cncnet. XD

[X1Destroy]

 

The comments about Siegefried was based on one of my matches as Euro Alliance last month. It's possibly that it was just due to my opponent's incompetence and not the unit itself.
While he was busy spamming Thors to stop my Wolfhounds, I threw a Borrilo with Pyros and Crazy Ivans at the back of his base, thus drawn away his attention. Then I have Volkov charge in, eat a Chrono Vortex and EMPed him, then send 3 drones and Siegefried is gone. The Thors later crashed, due to 12 Tsivils constantly firing.

BTW, the person who wrote this beat GOW huh? Didn't expect that.

If it's possible, I would like to observe his match just for once.

Are you free on Saturday?

 

Yes.

[Haxxan]

 

lol. Since when is God of War the gold standard for MO3.0 skill level? :O

Anyway, thanks for translating this stuff. I had a hard time reading the Chinese version, with all the side comments and such.

Gow can beat most Players on cncnet. XD

 

Uprising JC can beat Gow, so can Lan and many other people. All you have to do is rush him early ingame, that all.

[MIG]

 

lol. Since when is God of War the gold standard for MO3.0 skill level? :O

Anyway, thanks for translating this stuff. I had a hard time reading the Chinese version, with all the side comments and such.

Gow can beat most Players on cncnet. XD
 

Uprising JC can beat Gow, so can Lan and many other people. All you have to do is rush him early ingame, that all.

I can beat JC

[UprisingJC]

 

 

 

lol. Since when is God of War the gold standard for MO3.0 skill level? :O

Anyway, thanks for translating this stuff. I had a hard time reading the Chinese version, with all the side comments and such.

Gow can beat most Players on cncnet. XD
 

Uprising JC can beat Gow, so can Lan and many other people. All you have to do is rush him early ingame, that all.

I can beat JC

 

Just who are you exactly?

Edited by UprisingJC, 24 February 2014 - 09:18 AM.

[crystala]

 

 

 

 

lol. Since when is God of War the gold standard for MO3.0 skill level? :O

Anyway, thanks for translating this stuff. I had a hard time reading the Chinese version, with all the side comments and such.

Gow can beat most Players on cncnet. XD
 

Uprising JC can beat Gow, so can Lan and many other people. All you have to do is rush him early ingame, that all.

I can beat JC

 

Just who are you exactly?

 

It seems that he IS this articles writer.

 

Just don't fell taunted though. He may not master English well, as he still needs me for his translating.

 

And I really don't want this thread become somewhere like a warzone. There's still much updating for this, and I don't want you ignore the fruit of our work, and just start fighting every time.

Edited by crystala, 24 February 2014 - 11:03 AM.

[UprisingJC]

It seems that he IS this articles writer.
 
 
 
 
 
Just don't fell taunted though. He may not master English well, as he still needs me for his translating.
 
And I really don't want this thread become somewhere like a warzone. There's still much updating for this, and I don't want you ignore the fruit of our work, and just start fighting every time.
 

I don't feel taunted, so don't worry.
 
According to what I remember, I've only lost to 4 people in 1v1 matches: Speeder, Petya and 2 other people I met in late December.
The gametags the 2 people used at that time were Arios and Aniki, who were China and PsiCorps players respectively.
However, I seldom have 1v1 matches cuz most people prefer 2v2 or 3v3.
 
I fought them as The U.S and Euro Alliance at that time and I lost. This is what I have to admit.
 
I just wonder who this MIG is as what he said makes me feel that he has once had some 1v1 matches with me and of course beat me. Otherwise, how come he could talk like that? I've never had any 1v1 matches with someone whose nickname on cncnet includes "MIG". There's no way that I'll mis-remember this unless he had matches with me when I started to play on cncnet in late December last year.
So far I've been recording almost all the matches of mine on cncnet with Bandicam and uploading them onto my own youtube, including the matches that I lost.
 
 
我沒有覺得被挑釁，所以不用擔心。
 
我最初是在去年12月下旬開始上cncnet玩，那段期間我曾經跟兩位玩家有過1v1，而且都是我輸。那兩位玩家分別叫Arios跟Aniki，分別使用中國跟PC，而我當時分別是用美國跟歐盟對上他們。當然，我還有在1v1輸過其他玩家，即Speeder以及Petya。
至於這位MIG，我只是很好奇他為什麼能講得這麼肯定。因為我印象中沒有跟任何ID是MIG或有MID字樣的玩家對戰過，如果有那大概也是我剛上CNCNET的事，因為後來我幾乎都會邊玩邊用Bandicam錄影，所以不可能會錯過，就算是我輸的場次我也會上傳。這人竟然講得那麼肯定，那我倒是很好奇他是不是就是當初跟我打的那兩個China或PC玩家?

Edited by UprisingJC, 01 March 2014 - 09:18 PM.

[MIG]

 

 

 

 

 

lol. Since when is God of War the gold standard for MO3.0 skill level? :O

Anyway, thanks for translating this stuff. I had a hard time reading the Chinese version, with all the side comments and such.

Gow can beat most Players on cncnet. XD
 

Uprising JC can beat Gow, so can Lan and many other people. All you have to do is rush him early ingame, that all.

I can beat JC
 

Just who are you exactly?
 

It seems that he IS this articles writer.
 
Just don't fell taunted though. He may not master English well, as he still needs me for his translating.
 
And I really don't want this thread become somewhere like a warzone. There's still much updating for this, and I don't want you ignore the fruit of our work, and just start fighting every time.
 

I don't feel taunted, so don't worry.
 
According to what I remember, I've only lost to 4 people in 1v1 matches: Speeder, Petya and 2 other people I met in late November.
The gametags the 2 people used at that time were Arios and Aniki, who were China and PsiCorps players respectively.
However, I seldom have 1v1 matches cuz most people prefer 2v2 or 3v3.
 
I fought them as The U.S and Euro Alliance at that time and I lost. This is what I have to admit.
 
I just wonder who this MIG is as what he said makes me feel that he has once had some 1v1 matches with me and of course beat me. Otherwise, how come he could talk like that? I've never had any 1v1 matches with someone whose nickname on cncnet includes "MIG". There's no way that I'll mis-remember this unless he had matches with me when I started to play on cncnet in late December last year.
So far I've been recording almost all the matches of mine on cncnet with Bandicam and uploading them onto my own youtube, including the matches that I lost.
 
 
我沒有覺得被挑釁，所以不用擔心。
 
我最初是在去年12月下旬開始上cncnet玩，那段期間我曾經跟兩位玩家有過1v1，而且都是我輸。那兩位玩家分別叫Arios跟Aniki，分別使用中國跟PC，而我當時分別是用美國跟歐盟對上他們。當然，我還有在1v1輸過其他玩家，即Speeder以及Petya。
至於這位MIG，我只是很好奇他為什麼能講得這麼肯定。因為我印象中沒有跟任何ID是MIG或有MID字樣的玩家對戰過，如果有那大概也是我剛上CNCNET的事，因為後來我幾乎都會邊玩邊用Bandicam錄影，所以不可能會錯過，就算是我輸的場次我也會上傳。這人竟然講得那麼肯定，那我倒是很好奇他是不是就是當初跟我打的那兩個China或PC玩家?

speeder：someone just blew my mind with 25 charons
這個大概是12月初的事了
我英語不好......用中文來說吧。我不是當初那兩個玩家。我ID不止MIG，還有Kirov，Open，BD。我曾經想和你們對戰，當時是2v2或者是3v3，我沒擠進房間。至於語氣為什麼那麼肯定，星期六晚上可以來几局。（其實只是把can用錯了）
其實我只是想找一個cnc上公認實力強的玩家打几局，證明一下我的實力。然後我的意見不容易被無視了，我也更容易參與MO3平衡修正的討論了。
我知道我的想法有點天真，不過這也是為了MO3更加平衡。不得不說MO3平衡性真的比較差。

[MIG]

I don't feel taunted, so don't worry.
 
According to what I remember, I've only lost to 4 people in 1v1 matches: Speeder, Petya and 2 other people I met in late November.
The gametags the 2 people used at that time were Arios and Aniki, who were China and PsiCorps players respectively.
However, I seldom have 1v1 matches cuz most people prefer 2v2 or 3v3.
 
I fought them as The U.S and Euro Alliance at that time and I lost. This is what I have to admit.
 
I just wonder who this MIG is as what he said makes me feel that he has once had some 1v1 matches with me and of course beat me. Otherwise, how come he could talk like that? I've never had any 1v1 matches with someone whose nickname on cncnet includes "MIG". There's no way that I'll mis-remember this unless he had matches with me when I started to play on cncnet in late December last year.
So far I've been recording almost all the matches of mine on cncnet with Bandicam and uploading them onto my own youtube, including the matches that I lost.
 
 
我沒有覺得被挑釁，所以不用擔心。
 
我最初是在去年12月下旬開始上cncnet玩，那段期間我曾經跟兩位玩家有過1v1，而且都是我輸。那兩位玩家分別叫Arios跟Aniki，分別使用中國跟PC，而我當時分別是用美國跟歐盟對上他們。當然，我還有在1v1輸過其他玩家，即Speeder以及Petya。
至於這位MIG，我只是很好奇他為什麼能講得這麼肯定。因為我印象中沒有跟任何ID是MIG或有MID字樣的玩家對戰過，如果有那大概也是我剛上CNCNET的事，因為後來我幾乎都會邊玩邊用Bandicam錄影，所以不可能會錯過，就算是我輸的場次我也會上傳。這人竟然講得那麼肯定，那我倒是很好奇他是不是就是當初跟我打的那兩個China或PC玩家?

有什麼好的錄影軟件能推薦一下嗎？

[Speeder]

Stop making quote pyramids please. If you quote the last message alone then the quoted person will definitely know you're talking to him/her.

That said, I'm looking forward to further analysis.

[MIG]

Everyone cannot beat Doomhammer! He is the smartest player ever.

Edit: isnt it, Speeder?

I will try to beat him. XD

[UprisingJC]

speeder：someone just blew my mind with 25 charons
這個大概是12月初的事了
我英語不好......用中文來說吧。我不是當初那兩個玩家。我ID不止MIG，還有Kirov，Open，BD。我曾經想和你們對戰，當時是2v2或者是3v3，我沒擠進房間。至於語氣為什麼那麼肯定，星期六晚上可以來几局。（其實只是把can用錯了）
其實我只是想找一個cnc上公認實力強的玩家打几局，證明一下我的實力。然後我的意見不容易被無視了，我也更容易參與MO3平衡修正的討論了。
我知道我的想法有點天真，不過這也是為了MO3更加平衡。不得不說MO3平衡性真的比較差。

 

I've seen Kirov and BD on cncnet but I've never had any matches with you.

I've been recently playing some other game and thus I don't show up that frequently on cncnet, but I do still play Mental Omega.

For most of the time I've been working on studying some of the existing maps and how to play as Headquarters.

If you want some 1v1 matches, that's ok, but I must clarify that  I'm not ignoring anyone here, except those who constantly complain about a lot of things about the game.

 

 

The record software I use is BANDICAM, while Doomy seems to use Camtasia. FYI.

 

 

 

Kirov跟BD我倒是看過，但一直沒打過。

我最近都在PS3玩DOA5U，MO3比較少開，就算有開也是自己在Sandbox模式研究一些地圖跟Headquarters。

如果要打當然可以，不過應該這裡沒人無視你的實力吧。

線上玩的人其實說多不算多，常常都是那幾個熟面孔，我是沒有無視誰。(除了愛亂找麻煩的人)

 

MO3平衡度的話，個人暫時不予置評，畢竟我大部分時間只用EU跟人家打，偶爾會用US跟Russia，HQ還在摸索，其他沒去練。

原本沒打算用Epsilon的陣營，因為不太喜歡那風格，打從以前在yr online打滾時就只用盟軍跟蘇聯陣營的國家，也因為有這底子在，我MO是比其他大部分玩家能較快上手。

 

 

我用的錄影軟體是BANDICAM，而Doomy他似乎是有使用Camtasia。

Edited by UprisingJC, 24 February 2014 - 04:26 PM.

[Martinoz]

It's not a chinese forum, use PMs

[UprisingJC]

It's not a chinese forum, use PMs

Sorry, I'm gonna add an English version of that post by editing it.

[MIG]

speeder：someone just blew my mind with 25 charons
這個大概是12月初的事了
我英語不好......用中文來說吧。我不是當初那兩個玩家。我ID不止MIG，還有Kirov，Open，BD。我曾經想和你們對戰，當時是2v2或者是3v3，我沒擠進房間。至於語氣為什麼那麼肯定，星期六晚上可以來几局。（其實只是把can用錯了）
其實我只是想找一個cnc上公認實力強的玩家打几局，證明一下我的實力。然後我的意見不容易被無視了，我也更容易參與MO3平衡修正的討論了。
我知道我的想法有點天真，不過這也是為了MO3更加平衡。不得不說MO3平衡性真的比較差。
 

I've seen Kirov and BD on cncnet but I've never had any matches with you.
I've been recently playing some other game and thus I don't show up that frequently on cncnet, but I do still play Mental Omega.
For most of the time I've been working on studying some of the existing maps and how to play as Headquarters.
If you want some 1v1 matches, that's ok, but I must clarify that  I'm not ignoring anyone here, except those who constantly complain about a lot of things about the game.
 
 
The record software I use is BANDICAM, while Doomy seems to use Camtasia. FYI.
 
 
 
Kirov跟BD我倒是看過，但一直沒打過。
我最近都在PS3玩DOA5U，MO3比較少開，就算有開也是自己在Sandbox模式研究一些地圖跟Headquarters。
如果要打當然可以，不過應該這裡沒人無視你的實力吧。
線上玩的人其實說多不算多，常常都是那幾個熟面孔，我是沒有無視誰。(除了愛亂找麻煩的人)
 
MO3平衡度的話，個人暫時不予置評，畢竟我大部分時間只用EU跟人家打，偶爾會用US跟Russia，HQ還在摸索，其他沒去練。
原本沒打算用Epsilon的陣營，因為不太喜歡那風格，打從以前在yr online打滾時就只用盟軍跟蘇聯陣營的國家，也因為有這底子在，我MO是比其他大部分玩家能較快上手。
 
 
我用的錄影軟體是BANDICAM，而Doomy他似乎是有使用Camtasia。

I can read but can't speak English. :(

[Sven Co. Op]

Considering how Sun Tzu's Art of War can actually apply to the Dota games I play, I think just writing about how the metagame works would almost mirror the Art of War in a way, but not to an entirety of it. 

[I_Download_Stuff]

Considering how Sun Tzu's Art of War can actually apply to the Dota games I play, I think just writing about how the metagame works would almost mirror the Art of War in a way, but not to an entirety of it. 

 

I'm interested in Sun Tzu's Art of War but can you give me proof of the applications of the game in DotA. I'm just being curious

[crystala]

God. I found that when I update this, it counts the update as an "edit", so this thread won't be on the top for anyone to notice.

 

So I'm gonna do this every time  when there's an update? Fine.