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[LelouchAK]

Hi!, I will post here what I wrote some time ago on discord so it won't get lost


I like isengard fortress' upgrades which are currently  (more like idea behind them, as now upgrades are bugged a little bit).  Sadly in most of the games people are against creating more than one stronghold. I was wondering what do you think about ideas of fort's enhancements which would of course emphasise heavy industralization of Isengard without relation with high number of forts at once.

 

I've made up some, I am aware that they can be a little bit silly though.

1. Excavations - 1200

Increases amount of resources generated by furnaces, armouries and lumbermills (or maybe one of them) in a medium range from the stronghold. 

2.Burning Forges/Training Ground - 700

Increases speed of productions of uruks and siege machines in buildings in close proximity of a fortress by 20%.

 

 

Well, I was thinking about one additional upgrade for Isengard, they, as the faction, can achieve enormous amount of money (lurtz pillage, tainted land, upgrade of lumbermills, devastation and so on), so maybe give them an option to create even bigger army to reward player for building up a strong economy?

 

Tens of Thousands - 5000-7000? It would be hard to choose price for such upgrade

Requires

1.Wisdom of Curunir

2.Saruman must be alive 

You buy upgrade in the fortress. Increases command points limit by 400-500 points/ decreases amount of command points that are used per battalion of uruks by 30% 

[AquilineIdol700]

Would you consider adding Isengard Orcs as the Isengard Inn Unit instead of Moria Screechers??

[Three Elven Rings]

I rethought some abilities in the Spellbook.

I hope you will find them useful.

 

5 - Crebain from Dunland

5 - Warchant

5 - Might of Isengard

Rebuild power

 

10 - Scum from Lugbúrz

10 - Ironfist of the Orc

Upgrades Uruk units in a small radius with heavy armor

10 - Tainted Land

10 - Fires of Industry

 

15 – Palantír of Orthans

Summon the Palantír of Saruman

15 - Freezing Rain

15 - Build Me An Army

 

25 - Fell Storm 

25 - Wrath of Caradhras

 

 

Palantír of Orthans

 

Vision of the white wizard 

(Active) Reveals a portion of the shroud. Friendly units within its vision gain +30% and enemy units lose -30% movement speed.

(Passive) Nearby enemies suffer -25% damage and armor. Causes enemy units to flee in terror. 

 

The old world will burn

Trees within the radius are instantly turned into resources.

 

The new oder rise

Uruk build times reduced.

 

Taken by the dark powers

Stuns enemy units within the radius and their ability timers restored to starting point.

 

Edited by Three Elven Rings, 18 September 2020 - 09:51 PM.

[Leod]

I like isengard 3.0, but I have a suggestion. The suggestion is a new hero. The hero would be Lugdush. He would be summoned by Uglúks rank 7 power: reinforcements from Saruman. I think that he would be a good addition and add a new hero to isengard. heres an article, https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Lugdush . As always thanks for the Mod and I am very proud of 6.0

[Leod]

I like isengard 3.0, but I have a suggestion. The suggestion is a new hero. The hero would be Lugdush. He would be summoned by Uglúks rank 7 power: reinforcements from Saruman. I think that he would be a good addition and add a new hero to isengard. heres an article, https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Lugdush . As always thanks for the Mod and I am very proud of 6.0

I think that making a uglúk model that is tinted red would make him easier to add into the game. It is not necessary but it would add an extra hero to isengard.

[kikealv98]

Will combo hordes come back?? :( At least in the next version, with the shield bearers and uruk-hai hordes, decreasing knockback and arrows damage received for common units. It could look really nice. Thank you for reading!

[Elod]

They will not. Combo hordes had too many bugs, balance issues, and were designed  to work with BFME1's small battalion sizes.

[Sharkey]

Would you consider adding Isengard Orcs as the Isengard Inn Unit instead of Moria Screechers??

I think a better fit for an Isengard Inn Unit might be Ruffians: the men Saruman enlisted when he took over the Shire. The design cue would be the Bill Ferny-like characters creeping around the Prancing Pony in FOTR and DOS. Perhaps they could function as spies of some sort.

[Nerevar42]

One thing that still feels weird to me is the idea of keeping the BFME 2 fortress upgrades that need other fortresses to grow stronger. That seems not consistent with the dynamic core of AOTR, in which building a second fortress in a game already seems to be unlikely, but 3, almost impossible. If you don’t want to change the effects of these upgrades, I would simply implement them as a slightly better upgrade than the lvl 1 (for example, Burning Forges at 35 % or Excavations at 20 %) so the player does not read an effect that will never get to properly affect his game because they will never have more than two fortresses during a match. I don’t know if you understand what I mean, but this feels really unnecessary to me to let this kind of mechanics in AOTR, because they’ll never trigger anyway, so I don’t know why they are still here.