Ok, I have calmed down and appologize for appearing to be against Britain. It is only because they are the best comparison nowadays to this dilemna. I am SORRY for any HURT FEELINGS. I will exit this site now, my parting words being... Kickass lookin' mod their, boys.
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Started by tanka, Feb 21 2004 09:59 AM
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Posted 09 May 2004 - 04:14 PM
"You freaking imbecile." Hitler did far worse to Poland/Russia/[Insert Occupied Country Here] than Britain did to Ireland. That was the most illogical conclusion I've ever read. Simply because you're not the worst doesn't make you good: that's akin to praising the actions of the United States because some other nation killed more people... wait... :rolo:You freaking imbeciles. The British did worlds worse to Ireland than America is doing to Iraq. Heres something to prove it: All intentional casualties in Iraq were precieved as threats by the sometimes overly jumpy soldiers. You'd be nervous too if you were fighting an enemy that does not follow the rules! On the other hand, Britain conquered Ireland about 800 years ago. Then, the killing started. This went on for centuries, with Catholics being dragged out of their houses and murdered every week. It pinnacled when Britain withheld food during the Great Hunger, starving millions of Irish to death. A generation or two later, in 1916, a select few Irish citizens said they had enough and rebelled in Dublin city. Instead of negotiating, instead of using the police action needed to destroy the understrengthed rising, they brought in troops FROM THE FRONTS IN THE WAR to MASSACRE, UNDER THE DIRECT ORDER OF GENERAL JOHN GRENFALL MAXWELL, ANY IRISH MAN, WOMAN, OR CHILD SEEN. And all America did was send in troops to destroy the Iraqi military and Saddam Hussein. Go to http://users.bigpond.../kirwilli/1916/ to see more info, mine is not entirely accurate because I am very, very angry at the way you are portraying America, where I currently live. You are assholes. You think I am a coward, well then COME AND GET ME! And we'll see who is a match for who! Don't tell me to calm down either, I am defending America, and I am no even an American citizen. Only I am grateful for their sacrifice to make the world safer, huh? Britain, you never had the guts to do what the Americans have done: they stood up to the Soviets when you just sat there.
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Posted 23 August 2004 - 03:54 PM
Those are form an irish point of view. The irish also say that bloody sundayhappened because British soldiers opened fire on a group of unarmed civilians for absolutely no reason.
Standing up to Russia and communism. Britain didn't sit back because they were too scared, they did it because Russia weren't really a threat to Britain, and it was pointless getting involved in stupid wars just to stop the inevitable spread of communism. As for Vietnam, America tried to pressure and threaten Britain into the war but we refused. Looking back... yes, I think we made the right decision. Even if we did enter, we wouldn't BRAINWASH our soldiers to hate the colour yellow, to such an extent than many vietnam veterans won't have anything yellow in their houses today, we didn't SEND THOUSANDS OF TEENAGERS TO CERTAIN DEATH in a jungle, and we're not like the CIA.
It's an all-too little-known fact, but the CIA are actually allowed to use torture as a method of extracting information. Normally, informaiton is acted upon by the FBI. Only because the FBI aren't allowed to torture, they can't use the informaito the CIA get form torture. So the CIA torture people and get absolutely nothing from it.
Standing up to Russia and communism. Britain didn't sit back because they were too scared, they did it because Russia weren't really a threat to Britain, and it was pointless getting involved in stupid wars just to stop the inevitable spread of communism. As for Vietnam, America tried to pressure and threaten Britain into the war but we refused. Looking back... yes, I think we made the right decision. Even if we did enter, we wouldn't BRAINWASH our soldiers to hate the colour yellow, to such an extent than many vietnam veterans won't have anything yellow in their houses today, we didn't SEND THOUSANDS OF TEENAGERS TO CERTAIN DEATH in a jungle, and we're not like the CIA.
It's an all-too little-known fact, but the CIA are actually allowed to use torture as a method of extracting information. Normally, informaiton is acted upon by the FBI. Only because the FBI aren't allowed to torture, they can't use the informaito the CIA get form torture. So the CIA torture people and get absolutely nothing from it.
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Posted 23 August 2004 - 04:27 PM
It's an all-too little-known fact, but the CIA are actually allowed to use torture as a method of extracting information. Normally, informaiton is acted upon by the FBI. Only because the FBI aren't allowed to torture, they can't use the informaito the CIA get form torture. So the CIA torture people and get absolutely nothing from it.
Good. The CIA should be allowed to torture. If you've caused enough of a problem in the world that we need information to stop more problems and you refuse, than yes, torture should be used. It'd be idiotic if all the CIA could do is ask politely.
And Dr. Pietro and Tupac, you are both absolute idiots. "omg I hate bush he is gay the war in iraq was for oil!1!!1!omgwtf"
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Posted 25 August 2004 - 09:54 AM
How is that good. have you ever been torture, NO things like that made some people i used to know very very fucked in the head. so don't ever say it is good.
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Posted 25 August 2004 - 09:56 AM
^That has truth in it. We can easily say torture and such things should be allowed - while it is the victims that must endure it. Just like war.
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Posted 25 August 2004 - 10:02 AM
Agile you r a complete hyprocrite, you are gun-ho for America's policies but completly disregard human rights and respect for life and beliefs which should always be at the center of demoracy.
We should never lowers ourself to those dictatorships and tyrants.
The pen is mighter then the sword and you won't be screwed over by the world media.
We should never lowers ourself to those dictatorships and tyrants.
The pen is mighter then the sword and you won't be screwed over by the world media.
Edited by Allied General, 25 August 2004 - 10:04 AM.
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Posted 27 August 2004 - 12:36 AM
did anyone in england watch that program the other day about how american soldiers are torturing suspected terrorists in prisons throughout iraq to gain information?? some guy wouldnt say anything for 4 days being brutally tortured and they then got his son, beat him an inch from death and showed the man his son. he instantly broke into tears and gave all the information he had! and they do these things to almost every suspected terrorist supposidly (and suspected means 1 person sayin he is a terrorist).
if anyone says that is rightoousness, well........its not
if anyone says that is rightoousness, well........its not
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Posted 27 August 2004 - 01:39 PM
thats still wrong, what if he dosnt know anything, then what they just put somone in pain for no reson at all. thats bullshit.
Edited by Stino, 27 August 2004 - 03:55 PM.
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Posted 27 August 2004 - 06:33 PM
thats why i added the suspected part in - they do that to loads of suspected terrorists etc even though they arnt.
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Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:28 AM
that just makes me sick, they need a taste of what there own medeicn but it's wrong so you can probely do nothing about it. 
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