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#21 Crusader

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Posted 01 September 2007 - 05:29 AM

Answer, EAF didnt invent Gundams, the tried to copy technology from Zaft and made 4 Prototype MS's, they did integrate some of their own advanced tech into it like PS armor and small-scale beam weapons, along with the Mirage Colloid.
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 05:57 AM

dats the same thing. i mean, if the ZAFT was so high technology, why didnt they make the gundam techs themselves???
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 08:08 AM

Because they didn't need to.

Their Ginns/Ginn Variants were doing the job spectaculary.


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Posted 01 September 2007 - 08:31 AM

ya rite. so ur point is, ZAFT didnt intent to make newer n better MS until EAF made the gundams?
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 10:18 AM

they did intend to make better ones.

It was the Guaiz that they were developing and producing throughout that time.

it's just that the gundams were prototypes, it was all just tests, they didn't even have complete OS's yet.

and they reached miniature beam weaponry slightly earlier to ZAFT just stole it because it was quicker than continued development.


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Posted 02 September 2007 - 12:02 AM

rite, but the OS thing wasnt complete jus cuz the natrals r too stupid to set it or complete it
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:19 AM

it wasn't complete because it was stolen before it could be completed.


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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:21 AM

Or It just wasn't finished, but your right. Earth also invented Gunbarrels, Trans-phase Armor, Laminate Armor, Positron Cannons, Light wave Barriers, hmmmmm, just about anything good in CE....


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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:34 AM

I'll turn into a prepubescent girl and sick my Big Daddy on you.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:48 AM

reference...??? :grin:



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Posted 02 September 2007 - 05:36 AM

i'll give you a small clue:

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:02 AM

Damn i knew that but wasnt here to post lol, heard that it was a good game, but too busy waiting for my Halo3 to arrive and playing the new CoD4 Beta!!!!!

IT"S AWSOME!!!!!



anyways back on topic, Zaft is known for making large scale MSs in the first place, the GINN+Varients, CGUE, DINNs, BaCue+Varients, ZuOOTs, GOOhNs, ZnOs, just to name a few that werent MSs whose developement weren't affected by the Gundams in any shape way or form at all.

That and good underwater battleship technology, WTF? There arnt even any oceans in the PLANT Colonies how'd they get so good at the ocean stuff? on the flip side why does EAF Suck when it comes to water? seriously most of the entire fucking earth is covered in water in some form, shouldnt the oceans be like their home field or something? seriously EAF Sucking in space is understandable, but the Ocean? common are Coordinators really that good? lol

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:02 AM

Damn i knew that but wasnt here to post lol, heard that it was a good game, but too busy waiting for my Halo3 to arrive and playing the new CoD4 Beta!!!!!

IT"S AWSOME!!!!!



anyways back on topic, Zaft is known for making large scale MSs in the first place, the GINN+Varients, CGUE, DINNs, BaCue+Varients, ZuOOTs, GOOhNs, ZnOs, just to name a few that werent MSs whose developement weren't affected by the Gundams in any shape way or form at all.

That and good underwater battleship technology, WTF? There arnt even any oceans in the PLANT Colonies how'd they get so good at the ocean stuff? on the flip side why does EAF Suck when it comes to water? seriously most of the entire fucking earth is covered in water in some form, shouldnt the oceans be like their home field or something? seriously EAF Sucking in space is understandable, but the Ocean? common are Coordinators really that good? lol


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Posted 02 September 2007 - 09:43 AM

Damn i knew that but wasnt here to post lol, heard that it was a good game, but too busy waiting for my Halo3 to arrive and playing the new CoD4 Beta!!!!!

IT"S AWSOME!!!!!



anyways back on topic, Zaft is known for making large scale MSs in the first place, the GINN+Varients, CGUE, DINNs, BaCue+Varients, ZuOOTs, GOOhNs, ZnOs, just to name a few that werent MSs whose developement weren't affected by the Gundams in any shape way or form at all.

That and good underwater battleship technology, WTF? There arnt even any oceans in the PLANT Colonies how'd they get so good at the ocean stuff? on the flip side why does EAF Suck when it comes to water? seriously most of the entire fucking earth is covered in water in some form, shouldnt the oceans be like their home field or something? seriously EAF Sucking in space is understandable, but the Ocean? common are Coordinators really that good? lol


well coordinators=super hu-mans, so u can 4giv dat we the natrals suks balls even in our own environment. dats the reason they got gene edited
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:35 AM

Damn i knew that but wasnt here to post lol, heard that it was a good game, but too busy waiting for my Halo3 to arrive and playing the new CoD4 Beta!!!!!

IT"S AWSOME!!!!!



anyways back on topic, Zaft is known for making large scale MSs in the first place, the GINN+Varients, CGUE, DINNs, BaCue+Varients, ZuOOTs, GOOhNs, ZnOs, just to name a few that werent MSs whose developement weren't affected by the Gundams in any shape way or form at all.

That and good underwater battleship technology, WTF? There arnt even any oceans in the PLANT Colonies how'd they get so good at the ocean stuff? on the flip side why does EAF Suck when it comes to water? seriously most of the entire fucking earth is covered in water in some form, shouldnt the oceans be like their home field or something? seriously EAF Sucking in space is understandable, but the Ocean? common are Coordinators really that good? lol


well coordinators=super hu-mans, so u can 4giv dat we the natrals suks balls even in our own environment. dats the reason they got gene edited


that means nothing.

Underwater/Ocean combat is alien to the coordinators as they leave in space.

The Earth Alliance Forces use the sea, they are more familiar to that type of combat.

and remember, their ships did fuck Zaft over a couple of times.

Edited by Stargazer, 02 September 2007 - 10:38 AM.


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Posted 02 September 2007 - 04:57 PM

Sorry to take this a lil off the underwater topic but did anyone else find the Wizard Packs for the ZAKU's really annoying, cause that there was a rip off of the striker packs and as far as i'm concerned that should have been an EAF exclusive

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:00 PM

Damn i knew that but wasnt here to post lol, heard that it was a good game, but too busy waiting for my Halo3 to arrive and playing the new CoD4 Beta!!!!!

IT"S AWSOME!!!!!



anyways back on topic, Zaft is known for making large scale MSs in the first place, the GINN+Varients, CGUE, DINNs, BaCue+Varients, ZuOOTs, GOOhNs, ZnOs, just to name a few that werent MSs whose developement weren't affected by the Gundams in any shape way or form at all.

That and good underwater battleship technology, WTF? There arnt even any oceans in the PLANT Colonies how'd they get so good at the ocean stuff? on the flip side why does EAF Suck when it comes to water? seriously most of the entire fucking earth is covered in water in some form, shouldnt the oceans be like their home field or something? seriously EAF Sucking in space is understandable, but the Ocean? common are Coordinators really that good? lol


well coordinators=super hu-mans, so u can 4giv dat we the natrals suks balls even in our own environment. dats the reason they got gene edited


that means nothing.

Underwater/Ocean combat is alien to the coordinators as they leave in space.

The Earth Alliance Forces use the sea, they are more familiar to that type of combat.

and remember, their ships did fuck Zaft over a couple of times.


dat means everything. coordinators got edited genes, n plus, they got base on earth remember??? n they r the 1 dat 1st made large-sized fighting vehicals. so its not rly dat hard to understand, dat natrals kno how to fight in water, but they DUNT got the technology to fight in there. n when u say EAF ships fuked ZAFT underwater couple of times, i m srry dat means somthing. though EAF do fuk ZAFT a COUPLE of time, but dat still means ZAFT fuk EAF MORE than a COUPLE of time

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:07 PM

I have to admit that I'm a little confused as to how ZAFT can be some good at Naval warfare when it should be the Earth Forces that should have the upper hand :/ .
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Posted 03 September 2007 - 02:32 AM

*to Dafater*

are you stupid? Just because ZAFT had a base there means nothing.

and ZAFT's base wasn't there from the beginning of the war, they dropped it from space and built it on it's location.

EAF should have the naval superiority, they've got all kinds of Battleships while ZAFT only has submarines and mobile suits and the mobility of underwater units is jack all, they would've been hit by torpedos long before they got to the ships.

The ocean is EAF's home ground, they should've wiped the floor with ZAFT, PLUS EAF have alot more naval ships than ZAFT.

and once again, genes mean NOTHING, if they did ZAFT would've outright won the war but the EAF managed to kick ZAFT off the planet and fight them to a stalemate in space.


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Posted 03 September 2007 - 07:18 AM

well w/e, but seriously, gene does means everything. but remember, EAF kicked ZAFT off there planet cuz of Orb, since the gundams n the archangel was made from Orb. besides, a base is enough 4 ZAFT, i mean, could they hav been making underwater MS during the beginning of the war??? i mean hello, even they r in space doesnt mean they r dorks, they should hav known dat they will fite underwater battle on earth, so they'd prepare sumthing 4 dat, n thx to the edited genes (plzzz dunt think it natrally, although we R natrals, but think this the wild way) they should b able to make underwater battle machines quik, they may even make sum ocean like places to test their underwater weapons. my point is, the dumbest coordinator could be the smartass natral

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