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[Comrade Kal]

That would explain why social mobility is the lowest it's been for ages and the rich-poor divide grows every year, then.

[chemical ali]

That would explain why social mobility is the lowest it's been for ages and the rich-poor divide grows every year, then.

Thats what happens when you let Labour manage the economy, bring back anarco-capitalism!

[Comrade Kal]

Well actually those problems were worst and started growing during the Thatcher years. And Labour ARE centre-right.

And there is no such thing as anarcho-capitalism.

[chemical ali]

Well actually those problems were worst and started growing during the Thatcher years. And Labour ARE centre-right.

And there is no such thing as anarcho-capitalism.

http://en.wikipedia....rcho-capitalism

Ohhhh whats that!

[Airman]

@Kal

Actually, human rights don't exist. Nor does free speech, or anything else.

[Comrade Kal]

An absurd theory. It's extreme libertarian-capitalism. You can't have anarcho-capitalism because capitalism by it's very nature demands hierarchy. One cannot exist without the other - the idea pushed forward about social and economic scales being entirely seperate is a very stupid idea - it's all about equality. Anarchism is a lack of hierarchical systems, and capitalism cannot exist without them.

@Kal

Actually, human rights don't exist. Nor does free speech, or anything else.

Free speech doesn't exist?


Well i'm afriad i'll have to get my evil communist government to stop you posting that then

[chemical ali]

Technically you are right, its still a part and I like the idea of it, think about the one true free market.

[Comrade Kal]

So it can't be called 'anarcho' capitalism then. Capitalism can't exist without either a state or people forming their own pseudo-states that inevitably end up even worse. Capitalism is the exact opposite of anarchy.

[chemical ali]

Its an ideology, trust me capitalism dosn't require a leadership it just naturally emergres from a free society.

[Comrade Kal]

Then how can you expect to defend private property rights?

[chemical ali]

By hiring a private army to defend it or you allow people to hire assasins if they say break a formal contract.

[Comrade Kal]

And therefore totally negating the prospect of anarchy.

By mentioning the word 'hiring' then you destroy the whole concept of anarchy, let alone talk of private armies. Good grief.

[chemical ali]

Yes but its a radical form of classical liberal economical policy, a tribute to the great works all the way back to Plato.

[Comrade Kal]

Plato would never have heard such a thing.


And how can you possibly call it anarchism? You quite clearly don't understand the meaning of anarchism.

And also, how are territories controlled by private armies any different to states? I would go so far as to say that's all modern states are anyway.

[Airman]

Anarchists should go do something productive.

[Comrade Kal]

Anarchists should go do something productive.

Anarchists are the only people doing anything progressive. The majority of people are making things worse.

[MSpencer]

Anarchists should go do something productive.

You should go do something productive. Have you considered donating your organs to anarchists?

[Cossack]

Anarchists haven't accomplished shit. They complain all the time about how screwed up the system is, yet they can't do anything about it.

I don't even think the system is that screwed up.

My dad is an electrician, and my mom is an elementary school teacher (neither of them are bourgeois capitalists), yet they own 3 houses, one of which is a 3000 square-foot house on ten acres of property in Canada's 4th most expensive region, and on top of that, they have a condo in Florida.

Neither of my parents had to oppress the working class to get where they are, because they themselves are the working class. Both of my grandparents were immigrants to Canada, and achieved no higher than the status of working class (my one grandpa was a construction worker and the other was an upholsterer) and they have also done very well financially.

In our society, as long as you try hard and don't sit on your ass and complain for you whole life, you can be successful, even if you are working class. (line workers at the General Motors plant near where I live make almost $60 000 per year, without an post secondary education).

I am still a moderate leftist, but I think people who think that its impossible to make it in this society are just lazy.

[Airman]

Nah, I'm not like that. My organs are my organs. They are something I can always own.

Edit: I'm going to do programming, or get a military job.

Edited by Demon of Razgriz, 18 October 2006 - 10:52 PM.

[Verrückt]

Nah, I'm not like that. My organs are my organs. They are something I can always own.

Edit: I'm going to do programming, or get a military job.

Nothing says fun like the American Military . No offense Kanz, but I hope you are careful.