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[Celeglin]

A) Gah, Oropher was a typo, not ignorance .

B) Galadhrim at Helm's Deep.

C) You'll remember that in Elrond and Galadriel's "conversation" (rather one sided, seeing as Galadriel does all the talking), it was Galadriel who was pushing for the Elves to help Men ("Do we leave Middle-Earth to its fate? Do we let them stand alone?"). Now I think that the film makers would have prefered to have Haldir say "I bring word from Galadriel of Lorien" or something, however you'll notice that Galadriel is actually never named in the theatrical release (she's named by Haldir in the Extended Edition). If Haldir said Galadriel instead of Elrond (who's been named numerous times), some non-Ringers may have made the connection, but the majority probably didn't even remember Haldir enough to find the link from him back to Galadriel.

[orophin]

actually there is somebody named oropher,and its thranduil's father or legolas' grandfather (if not mistaken)

[zimoo]

its thranduil's father or legolas' grandfather

Erm...what do you mean "or"? If he's one then he's also the other

But yes Oropher is Thranny's dad

[orophin]

okay so i think no more suggestions and let Cel do his work shall we(Ive been bothering him bout mordor )



so maybe put in erestor if you got the time

Edited by orophin, 18 January 2007 - 03:50 PM.

[Thorontur]

What will be happening to Dunharrow?

[adummy]

To cel: Doesnt Galadriel, after she is tempted to take the ring, that she, "I will go into to the west, and remain Galadriel" but this may have only been the extended. or i am losing my mind

About Haldir: im sure some of those elves that came were from Rivendell. and of course Elrond didnt send Haldir, as Haldir fights for Lothlorien not Rivendell.

Edit: i just watched the scene and yes Galadriel does say that, at least in the extended edition.

Edited by adummy, 18 January 2007 - 10:16 PM.

[Olorin]

About Gildor...if ya'll want to, we (as in Cel) could use the GW representation of him:
Scroll down a bit...
Powers-wise, he has an ability in the SBG, where he can 'Transfix' Enemies, rooting them to the spot. I think this could well within TEA, perhaps a small area instead of one unit, yes?
Also, I'm afraid that I blatantly don't like the idea of him fightin' with a staff. If you look at the afore-mentioned model, he uses a rather unique Elf Blade, more like a rapier than a two-handed weapon.
This is just the ramblings of a newcomer, so pay me no heed if you will.

To orophin: making Erestor as another hero for Eriador would offset balance, but as much as you want to see Celeglin put him in, so do I. Click on the link above, scroll down a bit and you'll see what I want Erestor to look like (especially the unique helm). And I really like Glorfindels helm there; wouldn't mind seeing that on his armour upgrade.

Also, about the Rumil and Orophin being included thing, maybe put them as a summon for Haldir, though that would make him a bit too powerful, and Celeborn already has something similar. I have a really bad habit of turning down my own ideas.

Edited by Olorin, 19 January 2007 - 01:52 AM.

[orophin]

i see no link :(

but if you are saying that its in one of your siggies,pls be more specific

ooh i c yep i think he should look like that btw i do have the model and all elf models

[Celeglin]

To Olorin: Yes, I know there's another character named Oropher (not only did I made a skin an model of him a while ago, but he's actually in TEA [Thranduil's Strength of Oropher ability]). That's where the "it was a typo, not ignorance" came from.

To Thorontur: Dunharrow will start off with a "cinematic" between Elrond and Aragorn (though not really a cinematic, because you can move your own units and stuff while it's going on). After that, Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli will leave via the Dimholt road and then Elrond will become part of your army for the remainder of the level. Unfortunately, none of it is currently working.

To adummy: That quote actually doesn't mean what you think it means. If you'll read the Silmarillion, you'll know that Galadriel, as one of the Noldor who "rebelled" against the Valar by returning to Middle-Earth was banned from returning to the Undying Lands. However, she and all others were pardonned and allowed return at the end of the First Age; however, Galadriel refused, feeling that her task was not yet complete in Middle-Earth. She felt that she could not leave until all the great evils were driven out (she could still feel the presense of Sauron after the defeat of Morgoth). However, there's a deeper reason for her staying: she left the Undying Lands in the first place at thoughts of being able to rule her own lands and peoples. I believe that this is the true reason for her staying, as she had never actually "ruled" anyone (that we know of) during the First Age. Now when Frodo offers her the One Ring, she is given the chance to rule everyone. When she refuses, she has "passed the test" and has conquered her own inner demons. Having refused the chance to rule, she can now "diminish" and return to the West, free of the desire to rule.

So it has nothing to do with her leaving right then and there. She still has to beat Sauron (only Gandalf was a greater enemy to the Enemy).

To Olorin: No helmet for Glorfindel. I, personally, hate that helmet anyway. If I did give him a helmet (which I won't for any Elf hero unless I have good reason to), I'd design my own. I try to stay as far away as possible from GW.

To Olorin: Having Orophin and Rumil as some sort of summon isn't a terrible idea... But yeah, you're reasons against it are also very legit.

[cahik_]

Having Orophin and Rumil as some sort of summon isn't a terrible idea... But yeah, you're reasons against it are also very legit.

maybe passive power for Haldir called "Help of the Brothers" or something like that. summons Orophin and Rumil when Haldir's health is low to help him.

[orophin]

yeah,that would be great but is Cel gonna put Erestor in or wat?

[Elvenlord]

I doubt it, Eraidor already has a number of powerful heros, like Glorfindel, Elrond, and I'm assuming Cirdan will be as well, and they will have others still, like the children of Elrond

[Olorin]

I doubt Erestor will be put in either.

[orophin]

Well,the chief advisor is not in :( i wish he was and the brothers of Haldir are not in either so maybe Cel will put them in after RA is completed,untiil then i'll think up new ideas for EA

[Celeglin]

It's not that I really need ideas for them, it's just that I don't need to put every single character ever mentioned in the books in the game.

[orophin]

well it isnt,cos if it is,there would be Faenor,Amroth,Oropher and much,much more!

[Olorin]

Smart-ass.

[Elvenlord]

Ok, only people who had a direct hand in helping the fellowship

Edited by Elvenlord, 24 January 2007 - 03:10 AM.

[Olorin]

Try those who were in the 3rd Age and took part in War of the Ring.

[Elvenlord]

Cirdan and Gildor didn't take part in the war