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[Blodo]

I will take that with a note of irony. A very large note.

[Comrade Kal]

It seems to me a lot of the Wii and DS Bashers

-are totally open-minded
-have hardly played a nintendo console, and certainly haven't played a DS
-know nothing about the system

Before you attack the DS, try getting addicted to advance wars, using the touch-screen for various mini-games, and try the touch-screen in an FPS.

[Jeeves]

Opera for PC is free, the PPC version is their source of income, and actually really good except its impossible to run for more than 5mins due to it caching and high memory demands. Other device versions could well cost money too. Dumbass.
As for playing on a touchscreen, its good. I play Quake on my PPC all the time and its nifty as hell playing RTS's with a poker, and nothing beats throwing cards around a screen. And you can do neat tricks with multiple pressures
But as for the console? I'll pass. I have a neat combination of PC and PPC which I can use for more than either console, and I like the fact you can upgrade a computer rather that in becoming completely obsolete next Christmas. Not to mention games cost half as much and/or are downloadable.
As for motion controls, the point of games is to do what you can't! What are they going to come up with next, a game to walk the dog without leaving the couch?

[Kelso]

I cannot imagine myself playing a game on touchscreen

Why don't you go try a DS with games like Kirby: Magic Paintbrush - it'll show you how good alternative control methods can be and that they can create excellent games unmatched anywhere else.

Because I'm not 6 years old anymore.....



And in terms of the massive sequelitis that people keep referring to. Its an industry wide thing, its just that Nintendo has been guilty of it for years now. Its not that Sony doesn't release the same type of game on every console (someone mentioned Driver and MGS) its that Nintendo has been doing it since 1984.

[ambershee]

As far as I'm aware, Opera is going to be free for a time on the Wii platform.

All three of the consoles are guilty of relying on existing intellectual property to sell games. It's good business strategy as it infers far less risk. Common Nintendo characters are something we see over and over again on the Nintendo platform, the same way we see other characters on other platforms.

The difference is in the number of new properties and different gameplay types that are available. The horribly overwhelming list of titles that I gave before all mostly simply the same game as their predecessor, with flashier graphics and minor alterations.

Both the 360 and the Wii however, also have a larger number of new properties alongside existing ones, unlike the Ps3.

I'm particularily fond of the Wii in the sheer diversity of games we'll be seeing. You'll have your generic high profile shooters, hardcore platformers, light gun games, and other more esoteric things that we haven't really seen outside of an arcade before, or on a common gaming machine, such as more casual games for those who aren't necessarily part of the Hardcore Gamer clique.

Personally, I can name plenty of titles on the Wii that look worth giving a bat about. I can't name that many on the Ps3 or the 360.

I'm still also waiting for THQ and Relic to pull the finger out of the stoppers, and tell us what this damned RTS is that's coming to the Wii!

[Mr.Graffitti]

Because I'm not 6 years old anymore.....

Uh.... These kind of comments make talking about videogames something not interesting anymore... I've heard so many people saying the same thing about Nintendo games.. People that think that Mario is the president of Nintendo, that Link is actually named Zelda and that Samus is named Metroid and it's a robot that kills things...
I'm not sure if that's your position, Kelso, but I am inclined to believe that you have never played any Kirby game... Please pardon and correct me if I'm wrong, and if I'm not, then don't make such statements without even playing the game already.

[Kelso]

You are wrong. And honestly dude, learn to get a fucking sense of humor. Its not my comments that make these dicussions uninteresting, its your reaction to them.

If you listen to my podcast you'll see that I make the point that these issues are not specific to Nintendo, but are something that are epidemic in the entire industry, including PC games. BFME2 AOE3 CnC3.

Being the vulgar ragabond that I am, I never play anything below a T rating, hence my move away from Nintendo pretty much after I hit puberty and learned how to use the word fuck in a sentence.

[Daeda]

What are they going to come up with next, a game to walk the dog without leaving the couch?

That would be called nintendogs (in case you wheren't sarcastic )


To those bitching about Nintendo recycling games:
There is nothing wrong with expanding intellectual properties, as long as you dont use it as an easy cash maker. Nintendo recycles all of its stuff, yes, but each game plays totally new. I think they do a great job on that one. The only character that annoys me is Mario. I never really liked him and he's appearing everywhere. Its like that guy is the best basketball/soccer/tennis/kart/whatever player in the world and besides that he has the ability to save an empire. Nintendo is putting his licence in to many games imo

[Blodo]

It's not about whether the game gets a sequel - it's about whether the sequel will actually be any good, or will it be the same game in a different package.

[Carnivean]

Because I'm not 6 years old anymore.....

Being the vulgar ragabond that I am, I never play anything below a T rating, hence my move away from Nintendo pretty much after I hit puberty and learned how to use the word fuck in a sentence.

Congratulations on learning to swear and hitting puberty and all but really... You're just a narrow minded prick who doesn't realise that just because something isn't full of sex and swearing it can still be better than a hell of a lot of other games.

Its not my comments that make these dicussions uninteresting, its your reaction to them.

You're right - they don't make it uninteresting. They simply make you seem a narrow minded idiot. Pass it off as a joke if you like but I doubt it even was.

Edited by Carnivean, 09 November 2006 - 03:20 PM.

[Comrade Kal]

Opera for PC is free, the PPC version is their source of income, and actually really good except its impossible to run for more than 5mins due to it caching and high memory demands. Other device versions could well cost money too. Dumbass.
As for playing on a touchscreen, its good. I play Quake on my PPC all the time and its nifty as hell playing RTS's with a poker, and nothing beats throwing cards around a screen. And you can do neat tricks with multiple pressures
But as for the console? I'll pass. I have a neat combination of PC and PPC which I can use for more than either console, and I like the fact you can upgrade a computer rather that in becoming completely obsolete next Christmas. Not to mention games cost half as much and/or are downloadable.
As for motion controls, the point of games is to do what you can't! What are they going to come up with next, a game to walk the dog without leaving the couch?

Yeah, because you always get guns and katanas and go and kill japanese mobsters. I mean, it's becoming boring now, I do it in real life so I don't want to have to do it in a game.

And to Kelso - Project Gotham, Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer, every other racing game in history apart from diddy kong racing < Mario Kart.

Honestly, if it needs to be perfectly realistic, blood, violence, sex n death filled for you to enjoy it, then that doesn't show how wonderfully mature you are. Quite the opposite.

[Kazyumi]

I'm getting it, the new Zelda's on it.
I rest my case.

[Mr.Graffitti]

You are wrong. And honestly dude, learn to get a fucking sense of humor. Its not my comments that make these dicussions uninteresting, its your reaction to them.

If you listen to my podcast you'll see that I make the point that these issues are not specific to Nintendo, but are something that are epidemic in the entire industry, including PC games. BFME2 AOE3 CnC3.

Being the vulgar ragabond that I am, I never play anything below a T rating, hence my move away from Nintendo pretty much after I hit puberty and learned how to use the word fuck in a sentence.

Ok, I was wrong, pardon me for assuming what I assumed. Though I'm now pretty convinced that your last comment is making this thread uninteresting. So I'll just try to ignore your so funny statements about when you learned how to use fuck in a word.

[Jeeves]

That would be called nintendogs

*Screams profanities in five languages*

every other racing game in history apart from diddy kong racing < Mario Kart.

Hear hear!

[Fighting Phantom]

And to Kelso - Project Gotham, Gran Turismo, Ridge Racer, every other racing game in history apart from diddy kong racing < Mario Kart.

you're kidding right?

[ambershee]

The original Crash Team Racing squished Mario Kart like a bug.

But it all went downhill from there :(

[Kelso]

Ooo, now I feel small because you call me narrow minded. And yes, I was making a joke, but apparently people in here take themselves a bit too seriously. My point is, Nintendo has always marketed themselves to a younger crowd of gamers than most other companies. While they can be a welcome change from time to time, its something I prefer not to spend my time playing.

And yep, you guys are right, I'm just a simple barbarian because I like games that are violent and profane. For someone who claims to be a writier Carnivean, you may want to consider learning how to read first.

[ambershee]

That's just it though. Look around - Nintendo aren't marketing towards a younger audience. They're marketing towards everybody. Games like Brain Training and Brain Age are appealing to much older players who'd otherwise never have picked up a console. Games like the New Super Mario Bro's and Sonic Rush aren't exactly aimed at younger players either. The majority of people who'd have gone for those are now in their early to mid twenties and probably owned a Genesis/Nes. Silly games on the Wii, like Wii Sports and whatnot is there to appeal to non-gamers. And there are still games for the hardcore gamer too.

[Carnivean]

Ooo, now I feel small because you call me narrow minded. And yes, I was making a joke, but apparently people in here take themselves a bit too seriously. My point is, Nintendo has always marketed themselves to a younger crowd of gamers than most other companies. While they can be a welcome change from time to time, its something I prefer not to spend my time playing.

And yep, you guys are right, I'm just a simple barbarian because I like games that are violent and profane. For someone who claims to be a writier Carnivean, you may want to consider learning how to read first.

Since when have I claimed to be a 'writier'? That's off when 1gnition was around - I can't change it myself as far as I know. And no - liking violent and profane games doesn't make you one. The fact is you stated yourself you never play games under a T rating - implying that all you play are games which aren't suitable for kids regardless of their content or playability.

I'll also demonstrate reading right now by showing you how I interpreted your drivel!

Being the vulgar ragabond that I am, I never play anything below a T rating, hence my move away from Nintendo pretty much after I hit puberty and learned how to use the word fuck in a sentence.

'I never play anything which isn't unsuitable for children and I actually believe nintendo is only for children! And of course since I am so mature now with my swearing and hitting of puberty - I no longer play their consoles / games since they don't match my maturity!'

Doing good so far? If you yourself read above you will see me responding to the 'I never play anything below a T rating' bit. Or did you somehow mean something totally different to what you said?

Lets try some more!

And yes, I was making a joke, but apparently people in here take themselves a bit too seriously. My point is, Nintendo has always marketed themselves to a younger crowd of gamers than most other companies. While they can be a welcome change from time to time, its something I prefer not to spend my time playing.

'I was making an seemingly serious comment which I now state is a joke - you must all take yourself too seriously for responding to it in a serious manner. Nintendo always market at a younger audience, especially in comparision to other companies. I prefer not playing games which are aimed at a younger audience.'

Shocking that to a comment which could easily be seen as serious could get a serious comment. In fact I doubt that has ever happened in the history of the internet. Ever.
In regards to the 'younger audience' stuff... As Ambersheestated they aren't marketing to only a younger audience. In fact I highly doubt 10 year olds would buy a number of their titles. They market towards everyone. Sure, by doing this they also try and make the games suitable for children but as anyone who doesn't have the mentality of a ten year old should be able to understand - games don't need adult themes to be enjoyable. If you can give me a real reason why you don't play the games other than the fact they could be seen as kiddyish - kudos to you. I personally don't class them not having a T rating as a reason however nor 'They are aimed at a younger audience'.

And lastly - perhaps while I'm learning to read (Oh wait...) you should be learning to be funny so your 'jokes' aren't utter failures.

Edited by Carnivean, 10 November 2006 - 06:38 PM.

[Pixel]

I'd prefer to not buy and play the same games over and over again. Hence my choice to never buy any nintendo platform.

Agreed, Wont be buying one.

Edited by FlameGuard, 11 November 2006 - 05:16 PM.