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#21 Celeglin

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 10:33 PM

Yeah, PJ's Morgul is definately different then Tolkien's morgul

I don't think Tolkien's description of Minas Morgul was tangeable enough for PJ's version to be called "definitely different". The city's "glow" was described thusly (is that even a word?):

All was dark about it . . . but it was lit with light . . . Paler indeed than the moon ailing in some slow eclipse was the light of it now, wavering and blowing like a noisome exhalation of decay, a corpse-light, a light that illuminated nothing.


Clearly this is all beyond the bounds of physics (or at least, what I know of them) and is more metaphorical than anything, thus leaving it open to interpretation (as is the case with a lot of Tolkien's descriptions). The words I bolded are what leads me to believe that the light was greenish. Furthermore, we have this quote:

Then [Gollum's] eyes shone with a green-white light, reflecting the noisome Morgul sheen perhaps. . .

The problem here though is that Gollum's eyes are described to have a green glint to them. But I think it's still clear that Tolkien was trying to say that light coming off Morgul was green'ish, else why would he even include the colour in the sentence.

The only problem is that we are later shown that Minas Morgul's "beacon signal" colour is blue... Kinda odd to have two colours.

My lord that was horribly nerdy.

Anyway, great model. Loving it!

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#22 GothmogtheOrc

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:47 AM

I guess whenever I read it I always imagined it to be more of a grey or pale white/blue light... rather like the light of the moon on a semi-cloudy night, atleast in color if not in intensity.

You gotta love the way Tolkien wrote these books... everyone who reads them could have an entirely different perspective.

The city's "glow" was described thusly (is that even a word?)

I'm pretty sure that it should be just "thus". And because I was curious, I went ahead and looked it up on Merriam-Webster's online dictionary and it agreed with me :cool2:

On to the update and some unfortunate news: this was supposed to be a fun modding four day weekend for me... until I woke up Friday morning sick as a dog and had to stay in bed for two days :thumbsupdrool: :tongevil: two thumbs down. Still not 100% but I can move around and am feeling somewhat better :mad2:

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#23 Celeglin

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 11:10 AM

I'm pretty sure that it should be just "thus". And because I was curious, I went ahead and looked it up on Merriam-Webster's online dictionary and it agreed with me :crazed:

So the adverb form of "thus" is "thus"? Odd.

Anywho, crappy to hear that you're ill, but glad to hear that you're getting better!

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 12:15 AM

About the original question: I'd absolutely hate not being able to comment on something/get comments on my work, when the technology allows it. In fact, the comments are what thrives me most of the time.

Nice tower, but I'd really like to see it in the context.
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#25 GothmogtheOrc

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:17 PM

Tower in-game with newly recolored morgul blast:

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What do ya think?

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#26 Lauri

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:23 PM

holy crap that's awesome! :evgr: great work man!!

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:58 PM

*finds out about screenshots page*

good stuff in there; though I may suggest turning off the UI (F9) when taking screenshots
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 11:59 PM

lol, yeah, that would be a good idea I suppose :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 09:10 PM

very nice, but some pavement/stones floor will suit the base better. at the moment the morgul parts look out of place
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#30 GothmogtheOrc

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 10:57 PM

Yes, once the base and the layout are finished we will be making a new bib for morgul. One that fits and looks better in relation to the new stuff.

Next up for me is the geometry... is there anyone here who is an expert at geometries and who could help me if I have problems with it?

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#31 Lauri

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Posted 28 February 2007 - 10:20 PM

I think I know how it is :p I'll help you if I can :cool2:

Edited by Lauri, 28 February 2007 - 10:21 PM.

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#32 GothmogtheOrc

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:50 AM

Well, no geometry yet but I got some really good work done on the morgul castle. The gate door is in-game and working and I redid the castle base and it looks great... I can't put into words how cool it is to play a game with Minas Morgul as your castle base :p :p I'll take some more screens after I fix up a few more things like the Gargoyle statues. Oh... SO COOL!!! AH! :wub:

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#33 Phil

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 03:00 AM

Me wants more screenshots :p

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 03:31 AM

*gollum stlye* me wants the precious. me wants it. my....precious :p
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Posted 04 March 2007 - 04:51 AM

Ok... well you can check out some new screens on the site. And I'm thinking of sending dlots and adummy the mod to check out and maybe post screens of things they find interesting... would you guys be interested? :p If I do do this it won't be for a couple of days as it takes awhile to upload.

EDIT: NEW WALLPAPER TOO! It's rather cool... I am even using it right now.

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Edited by GothmogtheOrc, 04 March 2007 - 05:01 AM.

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 05:57 AM

you mean.... i can test.... kings of the west? :wub:
give it to me :p :p :xd:
sure i would love to test it and take some screens

where is the new wallpaper?

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 02:11 PM

Ok... well you can check out some new screens on the site. And I'm thinking of sending dlots and adummy the mod to check out and maybe post screens of things they find interesting... would you guys be interested?

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#38 GothmogtheOrc

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 08:56 PM

The new wallpaper is at the top of the screenshots page. I made a new wallpaper only catagory there (before the only wallpaper was under isengard).

I'll talk to you guys privately and arrange for you to get the mod.

I won't be able to do any modding today but I'm currently making an inventory of all the models I've received (alot) and hopefully I'll be able to get them in-game soon. There are alot of heroes and units that I had made for the mod but had never gotten around to putting in. In fact I don't know what I have and what I don't :lol:

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#39 GothmogtheOrc

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 01:41 AM

New screenshots uploaded to the site: Haradrim Captain, Morgul Wall shadow, and WK Teaser.

Shagrat is also in-game but I don't have a screenshot yet.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 08:54 AM

WK looks really nice *thumb up for Lauri* same for the wall. i really like your morgul FX :rolleyes: it looks really sharp, i would say that it is probably better then the one that i did for RA

edit: removed bit of post cause it should be in diffent topic

Edited by cahik_, 08 March 2007 - 04:20 PM.

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