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[AlexArt]

All I can say for now is that real war's firing range will be approximately 3 times more then vanilla range (150 feet VS 450 feet or so)

[Dexter]

AlexArt was obviously referring to artillery ranges. Direct fire ranges are going to be somewhat similar to C&C: Generals and other RTS games, maybe slightly longer. To increase them further would mean ruining the gameplay.

Edited by Dexter, 11 February 2007 - 01:15 PM.

[AlexArt]

AlexArt was obviously referring to artillery ranges. Direct fire ranges are going to be somewhat similar to C&C: Generals and other RTS games, maybe slightly longer. To increase them further would mean ruining the gameplay.

Actually I was talking about average firing range. In vanilla Generals tanks had firing range of 150 ft, infantry - 100 ft, long-range artillery had firing range of 300 ft, and jets were capable of firing at 300 ft. This gives us an average fire range of appr. 175 feet. In Real War Mod, we're increasing the overall firing range to make the player feel a different experience during the gameplay. Instead of watching the fire exchange between your units and your opponent's units at such miserably small distances as 150 feet are (or 50 meters, whichever definition you like) you will be supposed to make your forces always moving and maneuvering to find a better position on the battlefield. Finding a better position on the field will ensure a better survavability for your army and more accurate and heavy fire at the enemy.
And finally to the numbers. As I already mentioned, the overall firing range will increase about 3 times. This actually means that firing range for armoured units will be around 350 ft, for infantry appr. 175 ft, for long-range artillery (including rocket batteries) up to 550 ft, and for airplanes up to 450 ft. This won't kill the balance or the gameplay itself, but would create a bit different experience ingame.

[Dexter]

Direct fire ranges will be limited to 300ft (which is not that long, compared to other RTS games (not C&CG)), and no longer, this is my final word.

To increase them further would mean ruining the gameplay.

As for the long range artillery - Smerch is going to fire at dramatic ranges, about 1000ft, if Alex's measurment is correct. The range of airplane missiles will vary, depending on the missile type.

[AlexArt]

Thank you, but if the firing range is going to be increased, at such a rate, is the map size going to be subsequently increased, to accomodate the new firing range?

Yes, considerably.

Please forgive if i ask too much questions, but this forum, seems inactive, and i thought i could put a bit of activitie in it.

Just go on, you're doing the right thing.

[Dexter]

Both Gladiator (if it's actually S-300, i am now familiar with "wrong" names) and Iskander are in, as tier 3 AA, and superweapon respectively.

[Dexter]

I should have said Sa-10 "grumble", is that the correct name? or is it the nato codename for the S-300 PMU1?

All nato nicknames are wrong to me

What i meant to ask about the S-300 was how it's range, or the range of aa units going to change, and how will it affect air unit combat?

Well, S-300 isn't going to be a regular AA unit. Others units will have shorter ranges.
Also i should remind that all this "range" thing is going to be defined as we'll start internal beta testing.

there's already another mod hanleding weapons from that era ( Cold War Crisis).

Tunguska isn't cold war era vehicle, and i believe CWC doesn't have it.

[Dexter]

So Grumble isn't he correct name for it? then what is it? "PMU"?

S-300PMU. That's all.

Actually tunguska is a cold war era vehicule since it was designed in 1986

I know this (well). But does it make it cold war era vehicle? I guess not - it didn't fully enter service untill 1989, and it was already the end of the cold war. I mean, it never was one of the cold war symbols.

[Dexter]

S-400, i believe, is an alternative designation of S-300PMU2.