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#261 Mordor Slayer

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 07:52 PM

Big surprise! Our mod has been featured in a Dutch pc magazine, PCGameplay!

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If the (producers of) Lord of the Rings films can release Extended Editions and DVD-versions with more then 9 hours of extras, than why can't a mod do that? The purpose of this mod is to bring back the 'movie-feeling' to the game. A nice idea, but it's mainly the new content that caught our eye. Many new units were added, including Black Uruks, Morgul Orcs, new infantry for the Elves and a whole bunch of new heroes (including the Nine). They also included high-res skins for every single unit, and all monsters are now realistically scaled, which causes the Mumakil to be a lot bigger, just like Ents and Giants. Cool! But this is only the tip of the iceberg...


I know, they didn't mention the no-rush aspect or the better siege, and it's pretty small overall, but I'm just so happy that they read my e-mail and were enthusiastic enough to try the beta! Marketing-pWn!
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#262 Grizzlez

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 08:01 PM

thats awesome nice job see team :rolleyes:
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#263 kalecx

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 12:30 AM

;) Wow! I'm speechless! S.E.E mod is getting big!
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want a bfme2 see 4.5 mod match-up against me? add the xfire user above. :O

#264 Bart

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 08:37 AM

We'd better prepare you for some more bandwidth ;)
And I still haven't played it ;)
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#265 Guess Who

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:14 AM

Wow might even become a expansion if it becomes big enough :O,
would be great to see that happen.
Good Job SEE Team ;)
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#266 Wundai

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 01:45 PM

Great to see this mod in my country's magazine ;)

Funny thing though they say, Type: Multiplayer

but they could have added Skirmish as well IMO
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#267 Nazgûl

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 04:21 PM

Hehe yes, above all, it's a Skirmish Mod (so far) ;)

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#268 lycan

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 04:33 PM

congratulations

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:13 PM

A Magazine?! Good Lord! Awesomeness!
What sort of strings did you have to pull for THAT, Morder Slayer?
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Never come between a Capn and his..uh..AstroSponge? No, no...Never come between a CapnAstro and his Sponge! Uh.....this doesn't work as well as the other guys names..

I am..

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#270 The Best Guest

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 10:18 PM

If he told you he would have to kill you :blink: jk but suriously he would :evgr: :dry:
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Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:05 PM

Heh. If that's the case, maybe we should forget this happened...-BANG-
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Never come between a Capn and his..uh..AstroSponge? No, no...Never come between a CapnAstro and his Sponge! Uh.....this doesn't work as well as the other guys names..

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#272 Guess Who

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Posted 29 October 2007 - 11:15 PM

Ahh love the screens look so good, can't wait for final release.
Best BFME 2 Mod Ever :blink:.
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#273 Taralom

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Posted 30 October 2007 - 11:55 AM

Congrats,

this will surely get more people to the forums and more people to play.
If the above post offended you in any way,
please take note that, until further notice, I don't care, so get lost.

#274 Lord of the Rings Junkie

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:20 AM

We'd better prepare you for some more bandwidth :)
And I still haven't played it :p

You couldn't pick a better time than now to start! :)
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#275 Mordor Slayer

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 07:04 PM

Thought I'd post my marketing update also here:

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Dear SEE fans, we have got great news: beta 4.5 has been officially released! Play it and admire six long months of coding, modelling, skinning and the like. Even if you're only mildly interested in enhancing your TBFME II experience, you should download and try this mod! Together with the changelist, I've also posted 15 wallpapers for you to enjoy, together with the results of the survey. Twenty-five people already replied to this survey, but I'd like many more to fill it in and post it. If you still have to do this, please do so I can update it gradually. The survey will help us getting a clear image of what the community wants, and after all, it's the community that makes or breaks a mod =).
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BFME2 Special Extended Edition - Fixes & Additions for BETA 4.5


ALL FACTIONS

- BFME1 Intro & ShellMap added, replacing the BFME2 ones.

- Barad-dûr still image (ShellMap) added for LowRes settings.

- Fortress upgrade FX (all new) added for all Good and Evil factions!

- Base Floors added! These give a attributemodifiers with +5% production (increased motivation of workers) and +10% armor for standard non-combat structures on the BaseFloor.

- Walls, Wall Hubs and Wall Upgrades are now only attackable by siege and structural damage dealing units.

- Scenery Maps (Minas Tirith, Helm's Deep,...) have been given an overhaul to be playable with all SEE functions.

- Barracks level requirements overhauled. All 'barracks', SiegeWorks and pits now provide +33% production speed at level 2 (Total 133%) and another +50% at level 3 (Total 200%). Elite (level 2+) Unit buildtimes adjusted accordingly.

- Evil Economy Expansion are now 33% Lumbermills and 67% standard faction type.

- Horde movement behaviour adjusted.
* When set on Aggressive Stance, hordes now swarm much farther apart when in melee combat, making the battlefield more realistically chaotic. Also less units will stand around in the back ranks doing nothing.
* Adjusted CavalryHorde turning behaviour, which was awkward before, unless they where turning 180°.
* WargCavalry turning fix (Horde was faster than HordeMembers).

- LargeGroupBonus for Orcs of Mordor and Moria (Goblins) added, complete with new FX. (A red pulse activates, and orcs are shouting when a mob has collected).

- Additional Pikemen ThrustingAttackAnimation added for "long distance" targets/enemies. No more kicking at enemies, except at short ranges.

- Improved and extended BurningDeath FX for troops added! Smoke drenched flames keep on burning the carcass after death.

- Attack Ranges are adjusted for all Heroes (shorter). Mounted Heroes with swords now also attack at about 2 to 4 o'clock (direction, right side) facing the enemy.

- Dropped Units do damage now! Infantry or Cavalry grabbed and dropped by Eagles or Fellbeast now have an impact FX and do some damage and knockback to units located on the landing site/ground.

- Archers for all factions, have been completely refurbished and polished to the extreme!!! Extended Range is given for archer's Bombard Attack (ballistic path). Archers now fire INDIVIDUALLY, and no longer simultaneously. Risk of missing targets is increased, and possibility to hit others is added. And they no longer run across the map to follow enemies that flee.

- Arrow FX polished!
* Arrow color has been changed into realistic dark color.
* Hit dust FX is added.

- "FlyBoy" FX adjusted (Eagles & Fellbeasts). When Eagles and Fells fight each other, you'll hear screeches and see feathers flying, while they claw each other.

- Collateral Damage (NEUTRAL, ENEMIES, ALLIES) has been added for all weapons with an area effect. Risk of missing targets and hit someone or something else is added.

- Flammability of buildings overhauled.

- Creep variety (build variation) added.

- Evacuate All, has been given to all garrisonable structures.

- Leadership attributemodifiers for heroes are adjusted and Leadership system is diversified. New FX added.

- Industry spell have increased radius from 200 to 250. Now limited to 5 minutes. (EA patch 1.05 update).
- LotR Music listing expanded.

- Banner Glow FX is moved to level 5 hordes only.

- Modified BannerUpgrade Without Banner Carrier upgrade, initial levelling will take much longer (x10). That is because the unit's special powers (Black Arrows, Self-heal,... ) including the regenerative powers provided by an actual "BannerCarrier object" are now all available at level 2. In other words: BannerCarrierUpgrade now unlocks all horde specialpowers (including reinforcements).

- Forged Blades FX is fixed and unified, meaning ALL FB glows are WHITE and very SUBTLE!
>>> Credit: ROBNKARLA

- USP Bug (Unit Selection Problem) has been 100% fixed! No more hard to select or target units =)
>>> Credit: ROBNKARLA

- Campaign (BFME2) now running, but might still have bugs and crashes.
>>> Credit: ROBNKARLA

- "RJ Cam" added! With the new camera system developed by Robnkarla, we have 4 camera angles in SEE.
>>> Credit: ROBNKARLA

- ALL BFME1 maps added!
>>> Credit: ROHARA

- CaH Poison Blades fix.
>>> Credit: SNIGGLES

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GOLLUM & The One Ring

- Gollum the RingBearer & RingStealer:
* New Audio added
* New Locomotor with integrated WallClimbing and all new wall climbing animations!
* Gollum the RingStealer activated!
This means:
1) All is like you know with Gollum (the RingBearer) trying to stay away with his Precious, until Gollum is killed.
2) Once that happens, Gollum the RingStealer is spawned (somewhere on the map)!
3) The RingStealer is actively hopping around, not fleeing anymore (he wants his precious, you know) but trying to avoid enemies by using his sneakiness.
4) He can now be converted to your faction's Side (Good or Evil) if you attack him and damage him just a little bit, UNLESS you are the Side that took the ring. If you manage to catch him this way, he will be a "hero" for your faction.
5) As the RingStealer, and once in sight of the Fortress holding his precious, he activates his special RingStealing mode. If he "attacks" the fortress directly while the Ring is still there (and the RingHero not yet built), the Ring is removed and back in Gollum's hands. Gollum the RingStealer is now happily dancing around and disappearing (to be respawned as the neutral RingBearer on one of the usual Gollum Spawn Points). This works, even if the RingStealer is not converted to anyone's side but attacking the fortress on his own.

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AI

- AI Bases COMPLETELY refurbished with new MUCH bigger layout containing a lot more of the structures in the base. They still have great attention to geometry and style as well.

- AI's upgrading of structures have gotten a new system added with BFME1 style, using experience. This XP system works along side the BFME2 system of directly buyable upgrades. This way you can choose your own strategy:
* Upgrade "automatically" from XP when enough units are recruited, or
* Upgrade faster at "higher" costs (sooner).
This also means that the AI no longer have any problems reaching level 2 and 3 for its base structures.

- AI's Fortress Expansion's pads & Range/VisionRange/ShroudRange behavior are completely refurbished, with more organized and symmetrical AI placement on the expansion pads.

- All Fortress Defences (Magma and Oil) are now used by the AI and can be set to Autotrigger by the player (right mouse-click).

- Walls are now built by the AI, if the map allows it.

- Fortress Weapons AI fix! All Fortress Weapons of Mordor, Isengard and Dwarves (GorgorothSpire, OrthancLightning and IronHillCatapult) are now used by the AI on large troop contingents, and can be set to auto by the player to be used on approaching armies as well (big range). Projectile now also uses deshroud , and it can finally attack units at sea.

- Autoabilities and AI for all Units, Hordes and Heroes.

- Stance AI behaviour added for all units, complete with FX. When attacking, the AI units go to red FX and fight more aggressively.

- BrutalAI Discount adjusted. Now only 50% discount on heroes, instead of almost 90%.

- Range/Melee weapon toggle is now used by AI. Ranged weapon is default, and when in close combat, the units switch to melee weapons.

- AI Horse mounting fixed for Gandalf, Eomer, Eowyn (also Disguise), Faramir, Glorfindel and Nazgûl.

- AI for Summoned Units. With no enemy around they would just stand there and do nothing.

- Additional AI Spellbook Scripting for more variety of the Hard AI's purchase order (25%).

- AI now recruits Inn-units, if there are inns on the map.

- Heroes BadlyDamaged Behaviour added! Now heroes register when low on health and go back to the fortress, instead of keep fighting until certain death.

- Fire-AI extended to ALL attacks that can cause fires.

- AI for Dominated Creep Produced Units is now adjusted.

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MEN

- Tower Guards renamed into Fountain Guards and now require Black Smith, Heavy Armor & Forged Blades to be available. When spawned, they come with these upgrades. Need level 3 Barracks. (New system for Elite units).

- Gondor Spearmen added!

- Gondor Knights now have multiple horse skins for more variety, even in HA.

- Phantom models for Rohan Archery and Stables are now level 1, instead of 3.

- Rohan BattleTower's arrow fire points are fixed (raised from ground level).

- Eowyn now has AI ability for Dernhelm.

- Horn of Gondor for Boromir has been given level requirement.

- Peasant Draft FX added.

- Anduril for Aragorn added as level 8 power.

- Gondor and Rohan structures now completely separated between the switching Commandset of the MotW Porter. (This means that you will have to switch to Rohan to build the Farms, but it also means that all Gondor stuff will be in the Gondor list, and the Rohan stuff in the Rohan list).

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ELVES

- Noldor Warriors now require Forge, Heavy Armor, Forged Blades and Silverthorn to be available. When spawned, they come with these upgrades. Need level 3 Barracks. (New system for Elite units).
- "Orc Disguise" has been given to Frodo and Sam.

- Hobbit Heroes ("The 4") now have a Group Bonus of +8% damage, armour and experience; multiplicative.

- Hobbit Sherriffs can now get grabbed when attacked by Fells.

- Hobbit Hordes not having XP levels fixed.

- Multiple ChildObjects given to Lorien Archers and Lorien Swordsmen to give access to multiple HA-textures (hair colors).

- Arwen FloodHorse area damage fixed (was too large; FloodHorse area damage overlapped with other FloodHorse's area damage by more than 200%). AI and Autoability done and working.

- Treebeard & Ents completely reworked!
* Treebeard now stays put when Merry and Pippin are about to climb up on his shoulders.
* Treebeard now have Leadership to Ents with nice FX.
* Ent Ash now have Stomp ability like Giants, instead of RockThrow.
* Ent Oak has been added (second new model).
* Locomotors and animations for normal, enraged and panic are adjusted for all Ents.
* All ents have fully functional anims and behaviors for when being aflame, including running to water to put the flames out.
* Enraged emotion behaviour added for all ents, when spotting Lumber Mills.
* The "pop-up" Ent summon has been given animations. They now grow out of the ground like in a normal Entmoot. They also "grow back" when summon is over.

- Lorien Archers animation glitch during reload and fire is now fixed.

- Noldor WeaponSong power now says level 5 instead of 7.

- Galadriel's "Dark Queen" texture/skin is only used when she is using Nenya now.

- Galadriel's "Lady of Light" enemy effect is now more definite (via LUA).

- Glorfindel's Starlight/Blade of Purity powers and texts adjusted and FX added.

- Hobbit ElvenCloak FX fixed. Autoability and MultiActivate added.

- Hobbits knockback and way too high damage fixed. (Was set as hero damage).

- Sam's FryingPan attack is now a level 2 power.

- Legolas Archer Training power extended to ALL archers.

- Silverthorn has been given as upgrades to Elven Fortress Towers when Silverthorn tech is researched.

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DWARVES

- Khazad Guard added! Requires Siege Works, Heavy Armor & Forged Blades to be available. When spawned, they come with these upgrades. Need level 3 Hall. (New system for Elite units).

- Brand has been added as a hero for Dwarven faction. Brand is the King of Dale and as such he has Leadership to all Dale units. He uses a falcon for better vision and has excellent skills in archery.

- Bilbo has been added as a hero for Dwarven faction. Bilbo is specialized in thievery, cloaking and moving unseen.

- MightyRageFX for Dain now recovered. SummonPowerAI.

- Dwarven Riches radius increased from 200 to 250. Now also limited to 5 minutes (EA Patch 1.05 update).

- Removed Zerker AxeThrow and moved to Khazad Guard.

- Zerkers now renamed to Veterans. Voices volume, range and pitch adjusted.

- Battle Wagon's Oil Barrel attack, Warrior's "BullRush" and Dale Black Arrows now use Autoabilities.

- BattleWagon's speed reduced (from 80 to 65) for realism (Should not be faster than horses/riders).

- Battle Wagon's Tree Crush removed (Unrealistic).

- Structure Axes no longer damages own buildings.

- Slayer ability for Gimli is now greyed out when he's on a level to low to use it (Bug fix).

- Dale Barracks no longer uses double phantom images and double voices, when built and leveling up (Bug fix).

- Switched level requirements for Dwarven Ram and Battle Wagon. Wagon is now lvl 1.

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MORDOR

- Black Uruks now require Tavern, Heavy Armor & Forged Blades to be available. When spawned, they come with these upgrades. Need level 3 Orc Pit. (New system for Elite units).

- Elite Orc Pit added, harboring Morgul Orcs, Morannon Orcs and Black Uruks. (Green mud).

- Captain Jackson (Peter Jackson as Corsair) has been added as a comical addition. PJ is a Corsair captain in SEE, and gives Leadership to all Corsairs.

- Balrog AI perfected (Animation timing and all power useage). The AI now makes full use the Balrog's abilities. Powers now also usable on auto.

- Harardrim Archer bug fixed, where they were sprouting flames when running around damaged but still alive.

- Mûmakil, Grond and Siegetowers can now pass through gates.

- Mûmak topple straight death weapon (when it falls on belly, it flattens troops in front of or under it).

- Mûmak animation overhaul! Turning anims and cut-off Attack anims now repaired. Additional (that is a FOURTH) dying animation added! Super Rampage added!

- MountainTroll and CaveTroll AI: They now pick up Orcs (and eat them) when damaged. Also they pick up a tree when in melee combat (if a tree is close). They use 'Bombing' animation, which means lobbing stones higher when the target is far away. Rampaging is now occurring more often and has an increased radius. New TrollGrabVictim projectile.

- Troll short throw Rock flight path fixed. Now starts in hand and not on the ground.

- Troll KnockBack vs Heroes adjusted. Heroes can dodge, but will more often get knocked back by Trolls.

- Gothmog's faulty anims overhauled completely! Additional animations for idle, emotions, movement and attacks added! Animation sound FX also fixed. Additional Warg Bite attack and 'Chillin' Warg idle animation added. Leadership is now given to all orcs.

- "Call the Horde" Spell Book power from BFME1 added. Replaces Untaimed Allegiance. Fully scripted for AI.

- "HumanHeads"-ammo switch power of Mordor Catapult is made into a timed power, just like the Oil Barrel of the Dwarven Catapult. Both are usable with autoability as well, but only triggered by "soft targets" (not structures). The model of the skeleton head has also been changed into a human head. The bug where allied evil units got scared of the heads too is now removed.

- Archers in Siege Tower no longer walk on the spot.

- Siege Towers no longer gets KnockBack from Balrog, Mumak or Eagles/Fells.

- Mordor BattleTower now has it's own archer crew with 5 units (since this tower can't be garrisoned).

- Eye of Sauron now has AI!

- Mordor Porter's Commandset is now a Switching Commandset cause of the added Orc Elite Pit (The game only allows 12 buttons/set). We moved the Rhûn & Harad structures (Mûmakil Pen & Harad "Palace"/Tent) into the second Commandset of the Mordor Porter, and added a new button for EvilMen structures//side/list. In a way this became a first small step towards the 7th faction of Beta V with EvilMen as a separate faction.

- All FellBeasts (and their riders) have been scaled to proper "real life" size and given more animations.

- Nazgul now screech when dying, instead of scream like a man.

- Nazgul's Mount Horse and Fellbeast are now two separate mount buttons, keeping only two objects (1 Fellbeast, 1 Horse/Foot). No more circle mounting. Powers can be seperately triggered by upgrades if wanted.

- Nazgul have been given new additional animations for Idle and Attack.

- Nazgûl/Blackrider level adjustments. AI compatible. New MountSwitch:
* level 1 - mount/dismount horse (disabled when mounted on Fellbeast)
* level 2 - dread gaze
* level 4 - terrifying screech
* level 6 - morgul blade
* level 8 - mount/dismount Fellbeast (disabled when mounted on horseback)

- Witchking level adjustments. AI compatible.
* level 1 - mount Fellbeast/Horse/Foot
* level 2 - dread gaze + WK leadership (he should have one, and also the beautiful WK leadership button)
* level 4 - terrifying screech
* level 6 - morgul blade
* level 8 - hour of the WK (curse enemy - reset timers) mounted use only.
* level 8 - hour of the WK (Flaming Sword) on foot only.

- Witch-king now has 5 different attack animations!
* SwordStrike: Against Heroes and Monsters. This hits only one target but is very strong.
* Mace Overhead Smackdown: Especially against Hordes and Structures.
* Mace Backhand CirclingStrike: Especially against Hordes and Structures.
* Running SwordStrike: Against everyone, but only when moving while striking.
* SwordThrust: Only used with Morgul Blade attack.

- Mordor Walls - original EA models, complete with hubs, wall segments, gates, towers & catapults.
>>> Credit: ROBNKARLA

- Morannon Orcs (Melee & Archers) added! These are the "semi elite" of Mordor. Specially selected Orcs that guard the Black Gate of Morannon. Larger, stronger and more skilled than the normal Gorgoroth Orcs and Gothmog's Morgul Orcs, but not as fully equipped as the Morgul Orcs though (can't use Heavy Armor and Forged Blades).
>>> Credit: MORGOTH949

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ISENGARD

- Uruk-hai of Orthanc now require Forge, Heavy Armor & Forged Blades to be available. When spawned, they come with these upgrades. Need level 3 Uruk Pit. (New system for Elite units).

- Mines are stronger and less vulnerable to fire arrows.

- Isengard's DeployMine cursor is changed from "Attack" to "Bombard" cursor.

- Berserkers now automatically "Rage" when badly hurt (+20% damage, speed, armour).

- Ballista and Mine level requirements on armoury are swapped.

- UrukRaider BannerCarrier speed increased to match the UrukRaider speed.

- Isengard WargPit now spawns 3 (weaker) WargSentries ("free roaming" Wargs). No need to repurchase as they now respawn like creeps after a short while.

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GOBLINS

- Former "Half Trolls" have been remade into "Goblin Guard of Moria" - an elite unit for Moria. Requirements: Treasure Trove, Heavy Armor & Poison Blades. When spawned, they come with these upgrades. Need level 3 Goblin Cave. (New system for Elite units).

- Goblin King renamed into Great Goblin and scaled up.

- Goblin Pikemen has been added, complete with abilities such as Porcupine Formation.

- Summoned Spiderlings are 50% bigger now.

- Spider Pit is moved to Neutral Spider Creeps (as alternate Creep building). Spider Riders are removed from Moria faction and instead added along side the Spider Creeps. They start with bow and toggle to poisoned spear when in melee combat.

- Goblin Warg Riders has been added, instead of the Spider Riders.

- Warg Pit (neutral) has been moved into Moria faction for the Goblin Warg Riders. This new Moria Warg Pit replaces the Spider Pit and has build-up animations and damage states.

- Moria WargPit can now also produce a singular Alpha Warg with a pack of four subordinates and with a unique "horde" formation at level 1. Goblin WargRiders have been moved to level 2.

- Giants now have the same dust FX as Ents when falling down dead.

- Goblins no longer uses Forged Blades. Instead they get Poisoned Blades/Arrows.

- New goblin models LUA bugs fixed.
>>> Credit: ROBNKARLA

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CREDITS

Active on this Beta has been;

- Nazgûl (Team & Mod Leader, Artist & Skinner)
- Sûlherokhh (Head Coder & AI Coder)
- Robnkarla (Freelance Coder & Bug Fixer (USP Problem and various model bugs). Creator and Contributor of "RJ Cam", Mordor Walls & new FB Glow)
- TheDeadPlayer (Modeler of: Dale Swordsmen & Archers, Goblin Pikemen, Orc Pikemen, Morgul Orcs, Gondor Spearmen & Gondor gear (sword & shield) for Swordsmen and Knights...)
- Lauri (Modeler of: Black Uruks, LUA armor of Goblins, Goblin Warg Riders, Great Goblin on Warg...)

And not to be forgotten; all CONTRIBUTORS of guidance, codes, models and skins:
- 2PLAYGAMES (Coding support at early developement & Creator of Mod Command Tool)
- ARGOLIS (Donator of initial Captain Jackson model + some WoA material)
- CAHIK (Animation and model support)
- CELEGLIN (Some skin details from TEA)
- DARK LORD of the SITH (Coding support at early developement)
- DOWNFALL (Some donated skin materials for Rohan Archers and Bolg model and skin)
- ELDARION (Some of the best skins in this mod!)
- FLAMEGUARD (Initial model of Mordor Walls)
- ITHRONAIWENDIL (Coding support at early developement)
- KOBRA (Uruk-hai Scout Raider models)
- LORD of GIFTS (The initial setup of "The NINE")
- LORD ISTARI (Human Heads for Mordor Catapult)
- NERTEA (Some of the Rohirrim skins and details)
- NIGHTMARE (Gorgoroth Orc models)
- STEALTHSNAKE (Initial setup of Rohan mini faction)
- SNIGGLES (Developer of the initial mod; Full GamePlay Mod)
- ZIMOO (Coding support and Build Ups for Golden Hall)

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WALLPAPERS

I've got a surprise pour vous =). During the private betatesting we've taken lots of screenshots, and the best ones are now made into wallpapers!

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SEE SURVEY

I've bundled all the answers to the survey I posted in a summary, and here it is! Almost 30 people wrote their opinion down, but I'd like many more to take the survey, so if you haven't already done it, fill it in and send me the results. I'll update the survey again when I get enough answers.

1) Where and when did you hear about SEE (saw a preview, friend told me about it, found it on T3A, …)?

- Found it on T3A: 15
- Saw a preview: 8
- A friend told me about it: 2
- I don’t remember/know: 2

2) What do you like most about SEE?

Most importantly, we’ve got the stronger buildings (6); then the TBFME1 and general LoTR feeling (5); the new units/heroes (4) and reskins (4), the elimination of the rushing strategy (4); and lastly the better siege (2), rescaling of monsters (2), new and improved AI (2), and the removal of the faction colours (2).

3) What don’t you like about SEE (please no comments about the slow building times)?

Several answers were given to this question, all different and diverse:
the glowing FX for weapons and banners, the fact that buildings are a bit too strong, that there are aerial units for every faction, the long arrow range for some units, the fact that buildings don’t have proportional sizes compared to units, and that there aren’t enough units from the novels.

4) Would you advise it to a friend? Why/why not?

17 people answered yes, 7 said they already have advised it to a friend. No one said no.

5) Do you mostly play skirmish matches or multiplayer matches?

Most people play skirmish apparently (22), and some prefer multiplayer (4).

6) If you could add one unit, which one would you choose?

Lots of different answers here! The winners are Rohan Soldiers (5), Gilgalad’s Veterans as seen in the Elven Star mod (3) Iron Hill Warriors (2) and Dol Amroth units (2). Other than those, people answered more trolls, Fountain Guards with shields, Wain Riders, Goblin Berserkers, Erebor Dwarves, more units for Dale and units from ROTWK.

7) If you could add one hero, which one would it be?

Winners are Gamling/Hama (4), Elladan/Elrohir (3), Thorin (2), Erkenbrand (2) and Grimbeorn (2). As for the rest, there were Balin, Radagast the Brown, Karsh (ROTWK), Morgoth, Imrahil, Alatar, Gilgalad and Berethor.

8) How would you react when the AI would beat you?

18 people say they would be pleasantly surprised, 1 said it would make him feel bad and 6 people said they didn’t really know/care/not specified. Almost everyone says they would be amazed and surprised, some people said they’d become frustrated because sometimes the AI ignores armies and just attacks your base.

9) Do you like the idea of the new camera system?


Everyone loved the system! Most were afraid of lag though.

10) What maps would you like to have this camera system?

Most people say fortress maps (16) or just all maps (6); Rhun, Fords of Isen, Minhiriath and Buckland were second (2); others mentioned were Arnor, Rohan, Osgiliath, Enedwaith, or in general, huge open maps.

11) Do you think we should port the mod to ROTWK? Or should we stay with TBFME II?


8 people answered positive, 11 negative, and 4 people would like a version for both games (1 did not specify). People who said yes said it has a better WOTR, an extra faction slot and new models, skins, FX, … People who said no proclaimed that the disadvantages would outweigh the advantages, that it has less of a LoTR feel to it, that it’s not necessary, that it would require lots of work, that they don’t own it or that they already play RJ on ROTWK.

12) Do you often play the WOTR mode?

The majority of the people doesn’t use or like it (19), 6 people (who answered) did like it. They said it’s the thing that comes nearest to playing online or multiplayer when you aren’t able to play on across the internet. Others hated that it has no resource system, that it’s boring, and even said it wouldn’t be compatible with S.E.E. (hard, long skirmishes, …).

13) Do you often use CAH? Why? (cool powers, nice armour, …)

This was a draw: 12 like it, 12 don’t.
Comments: it’s easy to use, you can make your own avatar to roam Middle-earth, it has cool armour-options, the wizard class is cool, I use it with factions which have few heroes (for example Moria), the RPG options are nice, it ruins the LoTR experience.

14) Do you like the idea of adding a new Evil Men faction?


Most people love the idea (19), some people say it’s unnecessary, unoriginal or would just like it as a minifaction (5), 1 person didn’t have an opinion.

15) Do you have any remaining comments or suggestions?


- More LoTR music
- More powers for Treebeard
- A stronger Tom Bombadil
- A better campaign
- If you’re going to add an evil men faction, then who not a good faction?
- Keep up the good work etc.

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SEE IN THE MEDIA

Big surprise! Our mod has been featured in a Dutch pc magazine, PCGameplay!

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Translation:

If the (producers of) Lord of the Rings films can release Extended Editions and DVD-versions with more then 9 hours of extras, than why can't a mod do that? The purpose of this mod is to bring back the 'movie-feeling' to the game. A nice idea, but it's mainly the new content that caught our eye. Many new units were added, including Black Uruks, Morgul Orcs, new infantry for the Elves and a whole bunch of new heroes (including the Nine). They also included high-res skins for every single unit, and all monsters are now realistically scaled, which causes the Mumakil to be a lot bigger, just like Ents and Giants. Cool! But this is only the tip of the iceberg...


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LINKS

Website: http://see.the3rdage.net/
Forums: http://forums.revora...?showforum=1606
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#276 Mercyy

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 08:30 AM

hey, what's with Eru?
I said Eru :xcahik_:


great post :thumbsupsmiley:
ALl the time I read all the fixes again and again and still I'm every time surprised, how much great stuff is new in the mod :blink:
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Posted 11 November 2007 - 09:57 PM

Big surprise! Our mod has been featured in a Dutch pc magazine, PCGameplay!



Well that sure proved helpful! Looking at figures for the S.E.E. website, we went from an average 113 visitors per day in October to 253 in November thus far! (not to mention that in March last year, when first launched, the site only attracted about 58 visitors a day).

Amazing work guys ... Hats off to you for arguably the best advertised mod in the BfME community.
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#278 Nazgûl

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 10:00 PM

Thank you Ched :rolleyes:

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#279 Mordor Slayer

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 07:08 AM

Thanks! Many more months with awesome marketing to come :grin:!
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#280 Hostile

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Posted 12 November 2007 - 09:16 AM

I want to personally take the time to thank you all for your hard work and perserverence. I took the time to d/l the PDF description file and got lost on time reading all the changes.

I am simply amazed on the work being done and how far you've come. Getting listed in a PCGamer hasn't happend since Rise of Rome by Kelso.

That means we now have two mods in a mag. One is a fluke, two is a pattern.

Keep up the good work. I look forward to our continued relationship.

(EDIT) almost forgot your screenshots page Network Bar isn't working correctly. :grin:




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