190 replies to this topic

[Xingdao Fan]

Not the evil walls for Mordor, I hope? They did a great job on the walls but some races are just better without them. Unless you plan to add those walls to the Men of the East, which would be ok since they're going to be a mix of a good faction and an evil faction (I assume?).

:O of course its mordor and rohan. lol, looks at mordor and isengard. their factions were entirely about walls. I mean, mordor was just one huge walled of area, and isen too. I've seen those rohan walls, but not with the stone parts.

Btw, what gave you the idea that evil men/men of the east is going to be a mix of evil and good? the transfer to men of the east is just a name change since they already fit that already, and evil men doesnt sound very much like a good faction

Sorry I must rofl at this. Since when was Mordor all about walls?

[Allathar]

Ehm... To be exact since year 1 of the Third Age. After the battle of the Last Alliance the Gondorian forces HEAVILY fortified Mordor to prevent Sauron to return to Mordor. This includes an enormous gate (the Black Gate), the Morannon, The Cirith Ungol, Minas Morgul and muuuch more. Remember the scene of the Easterlings marching to the Black Gate? THAT's why they need walls.

[Lauri]

because some think that the black gate and the walls of Dul Goldur makes Mordor "all about walls"... And I agree, Mordor is NOT all about walls... it's all about a massive army, spamable

[Smeagolfan24]

THAT's why they need walls.

Yes, but only until Sauron had his army prepared. After he had the huge array of forces it was all about offence. Sauron believed that no one could enter Mordor without him knowing it, and so he wasn't much concerned about defence, because he already had mountains and a huge gate to protect him.

Edited by Smeagolfan24, 20 August 2007 - 01:57 PM.

[Dalf32]

lets get this into perspective:
the fortress of mordor (including mtns, balck gate, cirith ungol, etc.) did hav a tremendous amount of walls BUT mordor (in true attacking fashion) never fortified any other positions with walls, they just took over, occupied, then moved on. mordor did not bild walls outside of the plains of gorgoroth or the rest of mordor.

so basically, they used walls, but were not all about walls as wer say the men.

Edited by Dalf32, 20 August 2007 - 06:17 PM.

[Lauri]

IMO, orcs would create crap walls or maybe not...
anyways... any new screenies?

[Xingdao Fan]

Ehm... To be exact since year 1 of the Third Age. After the battle of the Last Alliance the Gondorian forces HEAVILY fortified Mordor to prevent Sauron to return to Mordor. This includes an enormous gate (the Black Gate), the Morannon, The Cirith Ungol, Minas Morgul and muuuch more. Remember the scene of the Easterlings marching to the Black Gate? THAT's why they need walls.

Then you're answering to yourself. Men were the ones who built the walls, not the Orcs. The Orcs just took over.

[Allathar]

But the orcs also re-build the Barad-Dûr...

[Dalf32]

so basically all we're gettin out of this argument is the fact that orcs r indeed CAPABLE of bildin walls, but they never really did build them outside of mordor.

[Allathar]

Yes, Dol Guldur IS outside Mordor.

[Dalf32]

alrite, 1. they made 1 fortress outside mordor. but thats really all

[Allathar]

Rohan didn't build any fortresses either - yet they get walls...

[The Best Guest]

Edoras

[Dalf32]

this is startin 2 turn into the infamous gandalf vs witchking debate. we shuld prolly all cool down a bit.

[Allathar]

Edoras wasn't a fortress - Dol Guldur and Barad-Dûr were. Yet you all say Rohan should get walls and Mordor shouldn't...

EDIT: before anyone says: Helms Deep was NOT build by Rohan.

Edited by Allathar, 21 August 2007 - 08:33 PM.

[Dalf32]

edoras may not hav been a proper fortress, but it was at least a fortified hilltop city.

[Devon]

everyone shysh! rob has already to decided mordor is getting walls, so this debate is pointless

[Dalf32]

lol, ty yodawarrior. i tried that a bit earlier

[fehik]

Any new screenies? COme on! This topic is for posting screens:D

[Bulletman]

is there an playable version already becouse i cant find one
and yust the question were is it for first i thought is was for rotwk becouse of the title but now i aint so sure of that