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[Tropical Bob]

I believe that's what the Bayonet-class was added for, but I might be mistaken.

[coinich]

It has no missile complement.

[Phoenix Rising]

I certainly know that you can't add every ship that gets a passing reference, but what about the Gladiator-class Star Destroyer?

The Gladiator is an interesting ship, but at 500 meters, it would be a cruiser.

[coinich]

Alright then, as a good light cruiser.

[Phoenix Rising]

I would rather want the Unknown Regions explored...Ex. Chiss, Vaagari, and all those other good things.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Chiss only have three or four known ship types and the Vaagari, I'm not sure they have any.

Edited by Phoenix Rising, 07 January 2009 - 01:37 AM.

[Kaleb Graff]

At least nothing we could classify for certain. They only had one ship well-described, and that was a fighter carrier.

[SpardaSon21]

I demand that you put the Vong "on the table"!!!

I would rather want the Unknown Regions explored...Ex. Chiss, Vaagari, and all those other good things.

Plus, who wouldn't want to own a Chiss armada

Me. I want Clone Wars + Land so I can take on an army of SBD's with only two squads of Republic Commandos, Delta and Omega, and a few Nulls who are trying to avoid boredom.

[Phoenix Rising]

CW is not within our timeline. 18 BBY (GFFA) is the earliest possible.

[SpardaSon21]

CW is not within our timeline. 18 BBY (GFFA) is the earliest possible.

I know it isn't. I was responding to Tropical Bob and his love of Chiss. As far as I know, from reading Outbound Flight, the Chiss-Vaagari wars were over long before the Clone Wars started, and no-one wanted to explore the Unknown Regions during the Galactic Civil War since they had more important things to do, like kill Imperial/Rebel scum.

Although if you did a Clone Wars mod, it would make all the other Clone Wars mods out there look like crap.

//Gets down on knees and begs PR to do a CW-era mod.

[Pred the Penguin]

I don't think the Clone Wars has enough depth to make something even remotely on the scale of PR. =/

[SpardaSon21]

They do, if you can tolerate the piles of garbage that are the prequel novels. Space gets the short end of the stick in the Clone Wars, though, since a lot of the heavy lifting is done by the clone troopers.

AFAIK, the LAAT has an infantry variant, a cargo variant, and a vehicle variant, and there is the AT-TE, AT-RT, AT-PT, SPHA-T, Spider Droids, mini-Spider Droids, Hailfires, Tank Droids, etc.

And a lot of what PR has already done in Space for PR could be carried over to a CW mod since a lot of the PR Space units come from the Clone Wars, or even prior (Dreadnoughts).

Not to mention the Clone Wars have Commander Pellaeon in an Acclamator.

[Phoenix Rising]

I don't think the Clone Wars has enough depth to make something even remotely on the scale of PR. =/

That's what I was thinking about their space roster. However, it would be finishable . I'm not sure if what we have now can necessarily ever be "completed" for our timeline - there's almost too much depth (almost).

[RyanK]

Not even a few MC90s could take on an Executor-class, let alone a superlaser-equipped Sovereign-class. They'd fall like Grunts to Master Chief.

Both would be good, but I think that the Viscount-class is the more important addition to the Rebel/New Republic arsenal that we could make.

Game wise, it would be possible to take down an Executor with only a few MC90s. I did it with just a couple of Liberty class and Republic class. You just need to hyperspace the ships in behind the engines of the SSD, where it has a 'blind spot' none of the weapons can get a fix on your ships as long as you remain in this blind spot. The only difficulty is when the SSD starts moving/turning, then you need to move your ships to remain safe. That is why capital ships are better for this than dreadnaughts (Bulwark, MC120), as the larger ships cannot remain in the blind spot as well.

Cannonically, i don't know if this would be possible as it would be difficult to hyperspace so close behind the SSD, or whether it would actually have such a weakness. You would think that the commanders (Imperial and Rebel) would realize the need for rear ward facing weapons on their capital ships.

Also, i would love to see the viscount, mediator and MC90 incorporated into this mod.

[Tropical Bob]

I know it isn't. I was responding to Tropical Bob and his love of Chiss. As far as I know, from reading Outbound Flight, the Chiss-Vaagari wars were over long before the Clone Wars started, and no-one wanted to explore the Unknown Regions during the Galactic Civil War since they had more important things to do, like kill Imperial/Rebel scum.

That actually wasn't me expressing my love of the Chiss. Though I do like them, and wish they were explored in more depth than they have been. Though their very nature makes that hard, unless a book is written literally about the Chiss...

//Gets down on knees and begs PR to do a CW-era mod.

I'd still prefer Yuuzhan Vong era even over Clone Wars.

Not even a few MC90s could take on an Executor-class, let alone a superlaser-equipped Sovereign-class. They'd fall like Grunts to Master Chief.

Both would be good, but I think that the Viscount-class is the more important addition to the Rebel/New Republic arsenal that we could make.

Game wise, it would be possible to take down an Executor with only a few MC90s. I did it with just a couple of Liberty class and Republic class. You just need to hyperspace the ships in behind the engines of the SSD, where it has a 'blind spot' none of the weapons can get a fix on your ships as long as you remain in this blind spot. The only difficulty is when the SSD starts moving/turning, then you need to move your ships to remain safe. That is why capital ships are better for this than dreadnaughts (Bulwark, MC120), as the larger ships cannot remain in the blind spot as well.

Cannonically, i don't know if this would be possible as it would be difficult to hyperspace so close behind the SSD, or whether it would actually have such a weakness. You would think that the commanders (Imperial and Rebel) would realize the need for rear ward facing weapons on their capital ships.

Also, i would love to see the viscount, mediator and MC90 incorporated into this mod.

I'm not sure if the Executor-class would have this weakness in reality. Depending on the size of the blind spot, and unless the commanders and/or navigators on the enemy ships were precogs, some simple maneuvering would put the ships right back into the sights of the kajillion and a half guns. Especially since that, in reality, three-dimensional motion is supported...

[Pred the Penguin]

I personally believe that the Yuuzhan Vong era is a load of crap, but It'd still be better than the Clone Wars. Sure we have some Republic ships but what about CIS? While it might be fun for awhile, I bet it wouldn't last long... There's still the hope of perfecting land battles, but how perfect it can get is still in question.

[Phoenix Rising]

There's still the hope of perfecting land battles, but how perfect it can get is still in question.

Given how much less land units cost relative to space units, I foresee land combat as being more disposable than space, so I don't suspect it will take much of the focus away from space at all.

Edited by Phoenix Rising, 10 January 2009 - 09:35 AM.

[Tropical Bob]

I personally believe that the Yuuzhan Vong era is a load of crap, but It'd still be better than the Clone Wars. Sure we have some Republic ships but what about CIS? While it might be fun for awhile, I bet it wouldn't last long... There's still the hope of perfecting land battles, but how perfect it can get is still in question.

Blasphemy! Kill the heretic!!

But seriously. Really? Why don't you like it?

[Phoenix Rising]

They do destroy many of the iconic planets I guess, and kill off a few notable characters. I personally like the series though. What I don't get is the real late Legacy era from the comics... that's a little too far "out there" for me yet (not that I've actually read them).