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[Johnny Ridden]

Fair play I don't know how the IRA acted in Ireland I will acknowledge that I was incorrect to assume all the cases were as I have heard in my very limmited experiance in looking at them, I was defenately wrong there so yknow, I suck cocks ect and I'm sorry for being such a faggit.

Seriously now, Johnny Ridden do you have any idea what you are talking about? or did you just completely ignore the fact that the Throne units do not follow Veda at all?

I don't recall them ever directly going against Veda, I also don't recall being told exactly who is telling them what to do I am working under the theory Veda has determined the current group are proving ineffective and has decided to start cutting them off, denying them access to things ect.

I could be completely wrong, but thats just how I see the events at present.

Then again with this show you never seem to be able to guess exactly whats going to happen.

[TeaMaster]

They do seem to be CB,not the same branch of CB but CB non the less, they take orders from Veda, they say Veda has no infomation on them, but for all we know, Veda is keeping it from the main group, remember how Tiera was deined access to something, not to mention the thrones have a remix of the CB theme music.


The IRA gave warning when they would attack economic places, they attacked millitary and intelegence targets, they never caused civilian casualties intentionally, they were the closest things to good guy terrorists I know of. CB is pretty much the same, going around blowing up things belonging to legitimate governments, is terrorism.


CB actualy take criminals, insane people all those sort of guys, its show in in 00F, not sure how they got the current guys, probably took them out of prisons or against their will or were scouted and asked to join, but we do need more backstory on these guys, or at least I want it.

The thrones are not CB... And CB do not recruit insane people. They find "special" people

Just most of them have every little character developement.

Edited by TeaMaster, 13 February 2008 - 02:13 AM.

[Dark Lord Revan]

I was defenately wrong there so yknow, I suck cocks ect and I'm sorry for being such a faggi

Please dont insult me by 'apologizing' in such a piss-ass manner.

Anyway, to more important things. yeah graham dropped the knives on purpose. That doesnt mean he couldnt have hurt the throne unit with it tho. but obviously to him and us, the beam saber is a superior weapon. It also disarmed the throne unit.

CB actualy take criminals, insane people all those sort of guys, its show in in 00F, not sure how they got the current guys, probably took them out of prisons or against their will or were scouted and asked to join, but we do need more backstory on these guys, or at least I want it.

The guy in 00F isnt even a part of CB proper...just some support group. Its all damned vague. Opposite of SEED, the manga fails next to the anime. Excepting that guy in 00F, you have zero evidence of any of the meisters being criminals. if we go by one exmaple, i could argue that all the meisters are super-soldiers like halleluja. And they're not, as far as we know.

[Johnny Ridden]

Why would they take just 1 criminal? it does make sense to take people that won't be missed and can be wiped off records easily, while still bieng usefull, I do see your point but it does make much more sense for them to be taking criminals and other people that don't mix into sociaty well, murderers do seem like good choices for CB candidates, we also know that woman in 00F was "Scouted" and she's become pretty obsessed with CB, maybe they also target children and bring them up to practically worship the orginisation?

Especially if they want to send these people to go around killing for such a vage and suspcious goal as ending all wars, I mean really, if some guys told you that they had spent a lot of time and money to end wars with no gain in it for themselves would you not be in the lest suspicious, especially if they then mention that you're going to go around trashing everyones millitary might to do this?

Edited by Johnny Ridden, 13 February 2008 - 03:13 AM.

[Crusader]

Hey I'd join up, it'd be fun lol.


CB Doesnt recruit criminals for the sake of common sense. Who would you rather have? someone who has backfround what will support your ideals and goals no matter what, or convicted criminals who are just in it for the money or whatever?





Reliability is a big issue here. This is the same problem with the US Military right now, remember those prisoner 'torture' pictures and that huge scandal? Wouldnt've happened if the members were completely loyal like how CB is organized, which even further proves that the Throne units are not CB.

The CB people were worried by even the smallest alterations Veda's plan, while that Throne bitch (dont care enough to remember the bitch's name) went around and killed innocent people that's not even part of their already un-CB like mission.

[TeaMaster]

Exactly... now iwon't say anything bout the ep so i dont spoil it. But watch the ep carefully again.

[Stargazer]

Exactly... now iwon't say anything bout the ep so i dont spoil it. But watch the ep carefully again.

That ep has been spoiled all over this thread, so how about actually talking because no one knows what you are talking about.

[Dark Lord Revan]

I say that now, you're just rationalizing your view about criminals. At least you recognize that you dont have enough evidence.

Regardless of whether CB is actually interested in eradicating war, and professor eilfman seems to have discovered that CB is not, it would make sense to choose meisters who would support and be dedicated to such a view. That said, i think we have some evidence of this. Setsuna used to be a freedom fighter...terrorist...but most likely survived the destruction of his cell. Now he may also regret killing his parents. So he has an interest in ending war, so there wont be any more like him.

Lockon's family was the victim of a terrorist attack. He a little bit of revenge, and to stop war for the same reasons setsuna has.

Hallelluja is probably the most obvious, with him being a super-soldier he doesnt want anyone else to be like him, and when there's war, eventually someone will try to create super-soldiers.

Tieria is the mystery. We have just about zip background information on him. Though he seems to be connected to veda in a way the others arent.

[Johnny Ridden]

Hal/Al would be easy and probably even ideal members for CB, he/they probably don't exist officially anyway plus they have the super solider enhancements and nowhere to go.

I would say the thrones are probably some of the nutjobs CB recruited, we don't really know the extent of Veda's predictions, nor do we know the whole plan, for now it could be Veda has had it in the plan for the thrones to shift public opinion against CB for a while, and forcing the 3 blocs into a military alliance is part of the plan, he then assumed the 4 meisers would then try to eliminate them.

It depends on what Veda is, what its plan is and what the real goal behind CB is really I suppose, odds are this will all make sense soon... well hopefully.

Edited by Johnny Ridden, 13 February 2008 - 10:43 AM.

[Dark Lord Revan]

We. Dont. Know. If. Throne. Is. CB. Stop alluding to that until its confirmed. Do new guys ever listen?

SG, was i like this when i first came on? If i was...i really really am sorry. Argh.

[Johnny Ridden]

Sorry, I'm stating conjecture again aren't I?

I really should stop doing that, but I was just trying to explore one avenue of possibility.


However if they aren't CB that could be quite interesting.

[Freedom06]

Well Episode 19 was quite interesting and it would seem like the first time we have had sorta of an in depth look into the lives of the CB gundam pilots.

Firstly: I'm not sure what purpose Lousie and Saji serve because I can't seem to figure out why they are in it. Maybe I missed something...

Secondly: It looks to me that the "Observers" are very much involved both with the thrones and CB. It seems to me that they have some over all control over both the thrones and the CB and are using them to achieve some darker and hidden goal. What thoughts do you guys have.

Thirdly: At the end of the episode the briefly showed scenes from the Continent of Antarctica where there seems to be some top secret base. Judging from the expression of the faces in the elevator riding done, they seem to be suprised = they didn't know it existed. Also the group of people seems to have some important officers or officials that are representing each of the three factions. There are 30 containers... (Yes I counted) and a lot of empty space around them suggesting that there could have been more at some point in time. I'm guessing that there are some sort of super advanced mobile suit of sorts or something like this. Also by judging from scenes of the next episode, this facility seems to belong to the "Observers" and may be their hidden ace.

Fourthly: It seems like the next episode may clear many things up and probably expand the plot even more...

What do you guys think about this?

[CorSec]

i think there was a shot of one of the new mobile suits in the preview of the next episode, i'll take another look when i get home from work, and i think i saw acre's flag having his new "toy" gn saber next episode too.

[Infinity238]

Yep, next episode a silver mobilesuit with red GN drive that apears to belong to Alejandro Corner.

[Crusader]

Hmm, if im correct, those arnt containers. but instead, they're GN Drives.


Especially in the one clip from the preview of the object lined up to the back of an older Gundam, looks like it will fit into the back perfectly.



Also, this means that all 3 major Earth based factions has acquired GN Drives, and will start making their own gundams, if not that there arnt old gundams they can use already. I think the one we saw wasn't silver, but instead just unpainted.

[Infinity238]

yep they are GN drives.

[Dark Lord Revan]

Even if we had no visual clues, i think we can safely say they're GN drives. Its what some people have been clamouring for the whole series. (such as you SG...i know you're here the forum says you're reading....)

I wonder if aker can still use the beam saber, its powered by GN particles and his flag cant produce it.

If he gets a gundam, it'll be one of the best moments of the series, except that he's said over and over in various ways that he loves the flag and wont go for anything else. Maybe they'll refit his flag with a GN drive?

If we get 30 new model gundams, im dropping this series immediately cuse it turns into a gundam funhouse like G fighter. I think it will be quite unlikely though.

On a side note, given that the 3 powers obtained more than just the GN drives, they have data has well, i think its quite likely that besides MS with GN drives in them, we'll have MS that look, run, have weapons and armor thats almost like the gundams already present.

[Crusader]

That'll make the series boring pretty quick;y, Mass produced MS modeled after Gundams, wonder where I've seen that before...........

[Stargazer]

w00t w00t.

I hope all the Gundam Meisters die.

Graham + Gundam = Every Gundam dead.

[Sykes]

Well they are more like the 3 powers equivalent to a GN drive. I find it hard to believe that they are going to be as powerful as the originals right now since we don't know how they got the technology. But we'll have to wait and see.

Alejandro is definitely mysterious though. I thought he might be the one giving orders to the thrones thats why im having doubts that the new MS is his. Its possible that he provided the 3 powers with the GN drives though.

Edited by Sykes, 19 February 2008 - 05:44 AM.