41 replies to this topic

[Lauri]

you know elvenfury, you're such an asshole ..

[Medicleous]

PJ is very skinny and has been for several years now.

[Dain Ironfoot]

you know elvenfury, you're such an asshole ..

QFT... but lets not get into that now.

Elvenfury, where the hell do you get the idea that Dwarves are... "beefy"

If the portray any Dwarf in this movie as fat/purely for comic relief (other than bombur of course) I will be cross. Therein lies my main concern. Gimli was fairly well destroyed character-wise in the films. In this case, the Dwarves have to be taken seriously or the whole thing falls on it's head. Then there's the problem that there's 13 of them. Thats quite a few characters. It's going to be difficult not to have some of them fade into the background for most of the film.

[Nertea]

Imo some of them can be background characters - I haven't read the Hobbit in a while but a couple of the companions do, I believe, have more effect on the story than others. Fili and Kili come to mind, they're a bit more... minor compared to Balin or even Bombur.

[Dain Ironfoot]

I think Fili and Kili could be considered among the major characters (I can't remember dialogue, but I remember them being youthful, going off and scouting quite a lot, helping bilbo with the barrels, and then dying protecting Thorin with shield and body. I'm sure they were a bit more.. they were related to Thorin in some way I seem to recall etc...)

Of course of the less vocal can fade into the background. But I'd give them the occasional line so they're not just extras.

Going by the actual deeds in the story..

Bifur: gave the trolls quite a fight before getting sacked and helped trying to rescue Bilbo. Him and Bombur are almost killed by Smaug at the bottom of the cliff

Bofur: Did bugger all

Bombur: Plenty, is fat, plenty of comic relief related to him. He also falls into the enchanted river and is almost killed at the bottom of the cliff when Smaug comes forth. Is on guard when Bilbo goes over the wall.

Dori: Described as being the strongest. Carries Bilbo, looses him. Climbs back down tree during warg attack to rescue him. Has Bilbo hang from his legs when rescued by eagles

Dwalin: Lent Bilbo a hood and cloak. Shot at the squirrel. Is quite vocal I seem to recall

Gloin: Aside from his obvious claim to fame, I can't actually remember him doing anything of note within the book. Except trying to light fires.

Oin: Tries to light a fire, argues with Gloin... once again, not much.

Nori: Bugger all.

Ori: Bugger all of note. Writes the book of Mazarbul later.



So yeah... if they stuck to that, with the more quiet members getting a line occasionally so they're not pure background figures... would work.

Edited by Dain Ironfoot, 10 January 2008 - 05:13 PM.

[Lauri]

your correct Dain, it's basically how you set it up (I know, I just finished rereading it )

I can't recall Oin and Ori doing ANYTHING in the book though, and thus I expect little from them in the movie

[m@tt]

Casting ideas:
http://www.mtv.com/m...221/story.jhtml

Lee wants to return as Saruman:
http://www.miamihera...ory/374044.html

[Dain Ironfoot]

Ooo... too early to get excited... but this could be so damn good if they do it right.

[Beleg]

All of its great, except for MTV wanting David Bowie as Thranduil.

C'mon
David Bowie?

[lycan]

who's he so is peter jackson cancelling the halo movie and going for the hobbit.

some source said martin freeman nah they should just get the guy that played bilbo in the opening 20 minutes of the fotr film

Edited by elvenfury, 12 January 2008 - 02:48 PM.

[m@tt]

To sum up the MTV article:

Thorin?:

http://i.imdb.com/Ph...6817220_400.jpg

Bard?:

http://ia.imdb.com/m...I/11/45/38m.jpg

Thranduil?:

http://ia.imdb.com/m...I/04/65/12m.jpg

Beorn?:

http://ia.imdb.com/m...I/22/45/38m.jpg

The guy who plays Biblo is really old btw, which is why their looking for an alternative.
And Bowie looks a bit like our Thranduil so I don't have a problem with that

Edited by mh_gollum, 12 January 2008 - 07:50 PM.

[lycan]

looked at david bowie. Lol certainly not for any of the lotr characters.

[Dain Ironfoot]

You mean you didn't know who David Bowie was before? *Beats Elvenfury to death with great pleasure*

Actually I rather like the idea of Bowie as Thranduil. He's brilliant in labyrinth. He's got pretty elven eyes natrually. You're probably looking at pics in his old wearing makeup 80s sex symbol days. Although now at ... must be about 60 now he's loosing his Elven looks. But lets see if we can find a decent picture...

http://thefanboys.co...e_labyrinth.jpg

Loose the anime haircut and the king of the goblins eye makeup.... and yes... a place for a Rock n' Roll legend..

*beats Elvenfury some more because it's such an enjoyable experience*

Jason Isaacs as Smaug? Yesssssss. If they go with a generic "Deep scary dragon voice" I'll be disapointed.

Brian Cox or Ben Kingsley.... I really like Ben Kingsley, but I think he's a bit too short and skinny to be Thorin... and would anyone recognise him with lots of hair

Haven't heard of any of the fellows for Bard... it's a fairly generic role anyway.

Alfred Molina for Beorn? Hrmmm Not quite sure on that one.

As for Ian Holm as Bilbo.. thats possibly the trickiest bit.

And Elvenfury, I'd rather have a Hobbit film than a film based on a bland and uninspiring FPS.

Edited by Dain Ironfoot, 12 January 2008 - 04:52 PM.

[m@tt]

*joins in beating*

[adummy]

who's he so is peter jackson cancelling the halo movie and going for the hobbit.

first of all, the Halo mvoie was canceled about a year ago. second, shut the hell up.

*aids the beating*

[Pixel]

Agreed about the bowie part, As soon as i heard "David Bowie" my mind went right to the labyrinth.

[Caluadan]

Is it too late to join the beating?

[lycan]

*walks up after beating*

i never actually liked halo just asking questions

he looks a bit to... well lets say i would rather see another guy than david bowie play thranduil but thats imo.

[mike_]

Saying no before you've seen him perform..tsk tsk

Edited by elfhelm.., 12 January 2008 - 11:41 PM.

[Hostile]

Peter Stormare should play Thanduil. Don't tell me there is a better actor to play that part. He played Satan in Constantine. IF not he should play the part of the goblin king after the party is captured heading over the misty mountains. He'd make a great goblin king if not Thanduil.