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[Yarrum]

Out of toilet paper? Ouch, glad that's been resolved. Shit could've gone down I'll tell ya!

Edit: I saw Brüno tonight. I will never un-see it...

Edited by yarrum, 23 January 2010 - 04:36 AM.

[Devon]

My friend's sister's boyfriend was not able to donate blood on yesterday because he is bisexual. Apparently if you have had sexual contact with another man, your sample is more likely to be contaminated with HIV, even though they screen for it.



Way to go America. I'm really feeling like I'm living in the land of the free right now, all right.

[mike_]

Not getting my daughter this weekend because she's been running a 103-degree fever since ~4:00 pm yesterday.. pretty worried about her.

[Yarrum]

My custom audio still doesn't work ROAR!!!

[Florisz]

Fahrenheid...

[Puppeteer]

My friend's sister's boyfriend was not able to donate blood on yesterday because he is bisexual. Apparently if you have had sexual contact with another man, your sample is more likely to be contaminated with HIV, even though they screen for it.



Way to go America. I'm really feeling like I'm living in the land of the free right now, all right.

It's the same over here, Yoda. It doesn't make any sense - do they not test the blood first?

[Allathar]

I thought they always tested the blood, just in case?

[Elvenlord]

They do. They're just being dumbasses.

[Vortigern]

Guys, didn't you know? If you give somebody a gay man's blood it'll turn them gay! It's like with vampires. That's the real reason they won't take your blood if you're gay, black or a woman.

[Devon]

My friend's sister's boyfriend was not able to donate blood on yesterday because he is bisexual. Apparently if you have had sexual contact with another man, your sample is more likely to be contaminated with HIV, even though they screen for it.



Way to go America. I'm really feeling like I'm living in the land of the free right now, all right.

It's the same over here, Yoda. It doesn't make any sense - do they not test the blood first?

They do, but apparently one in about two million samples infected with HIV will test negative for it anyway.

[Elvenlord]

I've been thinking about that, Yoda, and that may be valid. How much would it suck to be that one guy that gets HIV from a blood transfusion?
Assuming of course it is true.

[Mathijs]

Might as well ban the whole blood transfusion procedure then.

[Elvenlord]

Yes. Especially since we've started to make red blood cells with stim cells

[Allathar]

But then you'd still need the white bloodcells.

[Yarrum]

Even if you get it from a blood transfusion, it can be cured within the first 3-5 days after infection. After that though, you're basically f@#$ed.

[Elvenlord]

It's only a simple step from here Alla

But Yarrum, we're talking about if they weren't able to find it.

[Yarrum]

Exactly, hence the "you're basically f@#$ed" part.

[Devon]

Yeah, but elven, a one pint donation can save up to three lives. Most medical facilities have a rather hard time keeping up with the demands on blood, and remember that for that one person to get infected two million HIV infected homosexuals would have to donate.

A few quick googled statistics: In 2001 64% (though another site gives me 55%, we'll go with the higher statistic for the sake of your side of the argument) of AIDS victims were men who had sex with men. As of 2005 there are estimated 1,200,000 people with HIV in the US. That's 768,000 gay people with the disease. 4% of exit polls had voters identifying as gay, lesbian, or bisexual. 300,000,000 people live in the US. We'll say 3% of the population has had gay sex with a man, though that number is artificially high because most studies show that there are more lesbians than gays, and gays are also more likely to turn up to vote, as the issues are rather relevant to them. Still, that's probably close to 9,000,000 gays.

Every single gay person in the US would have to donate over 2 and a half times (on average of course) to statistically come up with one contaminated sample. That's twenty-two and half million blood donations, at the cost of one bad sample.



Of course, the actual ratio of good samples to bad would be much higher than that. My numbers assume that every gay person that is HIV+ doesn't know that he is. If he knows, he's obviously not going to donate. I have no idea how many people HIV+ know that they are, but I'd guess it's at least half.

So yeah. 50,000,000 pints of good blood to save lives. 1 pint of HIV+ blood.



(I hope my math is right by the way, I'm kind tired so I might have done something stupid )

Edited by Yoda, 25 January 2010 - 11:15 PM.

[Elvenlord]

I'm not saying I agree with it, just where they were coming from. Though your math makes it seem even more stupid

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Something in or around my bed is causing me Allergic reactions.
Which came as a surprise to me since until now I've had no allergies.
Last night I broke out in hives and this morning I woke with half of bottom lip swollen.

Allergies suck.

Now I have to work out what i'm allergic to before bed.