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[Re4_wesker]

wait...... bleach had writing?

[Stargazer]

At first, yup.

Now it's pretty mediocre, but the whole Aizen thing was pretty awesome at first.

[Dark Lord Revan]

Aizen was never even awesome at first. Thats a character thats been broken from the outset, far cry from 00....

And what a waste of time. The ending of the whole deicide arc was welcome, but underwhelming. More than a year of bleach was wasted for this...

[Stargazer]

Aizen was never even awesome at first. Thats a character thats been broken from the outset, far cry from 00....

And what a waste of time. The ending of the whole deicide arc was welcome, but underwhelming. More than a year of bleach was wasted for this...

Aizen's betrayal was far better then anything in 00.

and ha! pretty much every 00 character has been broken from the outset.

[Re4_wesker]

I will admit that Aizens betrayal during the Soul Reaper arc was very surprising but even then the anime/manga went downhill from there.

Edited by Re4_wesker, 04 October 2010 - 02:15 AM.

[Dark Lord Revan]

Thats your bias talking. Each character had his or her own issues and were far from perfect. But i wont talk about it anymore.....for real this time.

[Stargazer]

Thats your bias talking. Each character had his or her own issues and were far from perfect. But i wont talk about it anymore.....for real this time.

And that's your bias talking, please don't be hypocritical.

To me, every character in that show was mediocre.

[Re4_wesker]

For me most of the characters were not developed as much as they should have been. I felt by the end of season 1 they had the material they needed to build them up to a good point. unfortunately i think they fell flat on their head character development wise in season 2.

Setsuna's character didn't change much. You could argue that the whole innovator thing was a change for him but i still think his personality and mind set stayed relatively the same. To me i guess he felt static. Allejuhah and Hallejuhah definently had the material needed for an interesting character but again fell flat in season 2. Season 1 Lockon was great and by far my favourite protagonist in the series. I'm still dissapointed by his death. Season 2 Lockon wasn't exactly likable but atleast he was given a fair amount of character development in season 2. Out of all of them Tieria had the most development. He was such an arrogant prick back in season one but after Lockon's sacrifice and death his personality completely changes. I just wish they developed him more in season 2. He started off well and the innovator twist did cause a bit of division in his character but they failed to follow up on it to the extent that they should have.

That's how i felt about the protagonist. They had the potential coming out of season 1 to be great. As for the antagonists again potential but they werent done well enough. Mr. Bushido from the character sense worked. His previous defeats in season 1 and losing his comrades in season 1 sparked a hatred of sorts against the Gundam and it's pilot (Setsuna) which DLR already mentioned with his reference to moby dick. I think what screwed over Bushido/Aker in season 2 was his lack of screen time and the fact that he was severely underpowered. Ribbons was arrogant and obsessed with godhood. Sure it's worked in the past with villains but only when they have the skills and power to back it up. Ribbons clearly should have been in a few fights before the last episode and in those fights it should have been clear that he was very powerful. Ali Al Sachez was interesting atleast. He reminded me of Yazan Gable and Gym Gingaham from previous gundam series. His final fight seemed messed up though but i personally think it was fitting for him to attempt to kill lockon when it was clear that he would lose. The Innovators under Ribbons all sucked. They were again all talk and no action. They seemed a little threatening early on but as the series progressed it became clear that they were nothing special.

Edited by Re4_wesker, 07 October 2010 - 07:24 PM.

[Dark Lord Revan]

I wont disagree with wesker's character assessment on season 2 developments. I never said 00 was perfect. God ive got to learn to stop.

I feel bleach deserves special mention as of now because the bloody nightmare is finally over. Goddamn, 20+ deicide chapters, and technically the arc began way before that. Predictions as to what comes next? Perhaps jubo is jealous he's the only one out of the big 3 to not have a time skip. Perhaps in 2 weeks we will have a total cop out with an actual ending. Perhaps.......perhaps.

[KiraYamatoFreedom]

I have to agree on 00 but nonetheless I enjoyed the anime.

I still like Bleach but I have to admit, the Soul Society arc was great, I made sure to watch it whenever it was on.

Oh and Stargazer, what gundam series do you actually like? If I had to guess, Wing or UC.

[Re4_wesker]

Today i came across a trailer for dynasty warriors gundam 3.
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

The Sinanju was in the trailer so i think it's safe to say that Full Frontal will be in the game.

Also i listened to a few of the gundam 00 movie tracks. they were pretty good even though they were just remixes.

[KiraYamatoFreedom]

Yeah I noticed that already but thanks none the less.

The new series that are being added will probably have 2 suits each; some examples are

00-00 Raiser
Reborns Gundam

Unicorn- Unicorn Gundam
Sinanju

They might add more but it is unlikely until the sequel.

I hope they improved the SF a little, to me it was missing something that I can't put my finger on. I also can't wait to use 00 or Unicorn.

Btw Closed World is the best song for the movie to me, though youtube keeps taking them down so it is hard to find or listen to the full song.

Also on Gamefaq.com there are boards for Extreme Vs. and Musou 3.

Edited by KiraYamatoFreedom, 12 October 2010 - 11:22 PM.

[Re4_wesker]

The new series that are being added will probably have 2 suits each; some examples are

00-00 Raiser
Reborns Gundam

Unicorn- Unicorn Gundam
Sinanju

Perhaps, although seed destiny did have 3 suits and 5 characters when they were introduced so i'm hoping that we see a few more show up (like the Kshatriya for example)

I'm hoping they add a few more characters to the pre existing eras. I kinda have my own character and ms wish list lol.

Gundam:
-Guntank
-Make Johnny Ridden playable. Honestly, in the second we got Mquve and not Johnny?
-Bring back Gato's Gelgoog from the 1st game.

Zeta Gundam:
-Metheuss and Fa playable
-The Ashimar MS
-Gaplant (what Yazan piloted before the Hamrabi)
-Messala (what scirocco piloted before The O)
-Add Katz Koboyashi (Cuz i want to kill him as Yazan lol)
-Add the Dijeh

ZZ:
-The Hamma Hamma and add Mashymre Cello
-Make Beecha and Elle playable?

Char's Counterattack:
-Not much left aside from making a few more of the characters playable.
-Add the HI Nu and Nightingale but that probably asking for too much

F91:
-Add Iron Mask

Wing:
-Add Duo with one of the Deathscythe variants
-Give us the Wing zero custom already (but again probably asking for too much)

Seed Destiny:
-Add Mu La Flaga and the Akatsuki
-Add Rau Le Creuset and the Providence (i doubt this will happen but it would be nice)

G gundam:
-Schwartz Bruder? XD

Nothing else really comes to mind at the moment as to what i would want.

I hope they improved the SF a little, to me it was missing something that I can't put my finger on. I also can't wait to use 00 or Unicorn.

My issue with the Strike Freedom was how inneffective it's specials were. It's normal ground special was generally useless and the air specials range was very short. The overdrive special however is definently useful and a must if you intended to use Strike Freedom in the second one.

Btw Closed World is the best song for the movie to me, though youtube keeps taking them down so it is hard to find or listen to the full song.

Of the three main themes Closed World is my Favourite. The soundtrack itself has some good themes though. I like the Quantum Burst theme and the Battle of Strangers specifically.

Edited by Re4_wesker, 13 October 2010 - 03:59 AM.

[KiraYamatoFreedom]

Well while Rau would be great Rey will have the bigger chance, also I think Cagalli should be in since she is the only SEED user not in the game.

Yeah for me since my fav pair is Kira and SF I use the skills overdrive,tension, and ace pilot. And they better increase the range of the full burst, I mean all the other characters have specials that reach longer, well most of them do. None the less I can still ace hard mode with SF.

Also would you know where I can find closed world on mp3 format?

[Re4_wesker]

Well while Rau would be great Rey will have the bigger chance, also I think Cagalli should be in since she is the only SEED user not in the game.

Rey would have a better shot true. Also I heard something a while back about how cagalli will most likely not be in many gundam games (something to do with the voice actor)

Yeah for me since my fav pair is Kira and SF I use the skills overdrive,tension, and ace pilot. And they better increase the range of the full burst, I mean all the other characters have specials that reach longer, well most of them do. None the less I can still ace hard mode with SF.

the Overdrive, High tension, and ace pilot combination is the special combination lol. I use it for Heero and the wing zero all the time. The basic idea for heero is to spam his level 1 overdrive high tension special which normally clears a field. Ace pilot increases his strength further due to all the Mobile suits its dropping lol. Same probably applies for Kira in the SF.

Also I seem to remember my combination for Yazan was Ace Killer, Ace Pilot, and One Man Army lol.

Also would you know where I can find closed world on mp3 format?

I did. I'll have a look later and let you know if i find it again.

[Rau Le Creuset]

I Just watched the DW:Gundam 3 trailer and is it just me or is the Strike Freedom's combo's and special that we saw EXACTLY THE SAME as it is in DW:G 2? CHEAP BASTARDS!

and also I think that having Mu in the Akatsuki would make an excellent addition to DW:G series.

[Re4_wesker]

I Just watched the DW:Gundam 3 trailer and is it just me or is the Strike Freedom's combo's and special that we saw EXACTLY THE SAME as it is in DW:G 2? CHEAP BASTARDS!

We haven't seen it's ground special yet so i'm hoping that was changed or tweaked.

and also I think that having Mu in the Akatsuki would make an excellent addition to DW:G series.

Ya thats what i was thinking. I also would enjoy messing around with it like have Quattro/Char pilot the Akatsuki or Mu pilot the Hyaku Shiki just for kicks lol.

[Dark Lord Revan]

SF has a pretty acceptable combo set to me. The reason why you may feel its lacking is because when compared to other suits, it actually falls behind abit in ranged combat. Basically, Nu gundam and all of the quebley variants are much easier to use because almost all of their ranged combos and musous have larger aoe than SF. SF tends to have small attack angles, and the only true aoe, the melee dragoon attack, counts as a melee attack and doesnt benefit from any shoot stat you have. And its got low base dmg to boot.

Rather than having SF buffed up, some like the quebleys need to be nerfed. Its almost too easy to use funnel suits.

Im surprised you lot never commented on the new cell graphics. Visually the game looks a hellavalot better now, not that it was bad in the first place.

Its likely Cags will never ever have a role as anything but an unvoiced character from now on. Her seiyuu doesnt want anything to do with her anymore. Quite likely she would have a tiny role, or get a new seiyuu for the seed movie, if it ever gets made, although money talks.

Unicorn. Beast. Nuff said.

[Re4_wesker]

SF has a pretty acceptable combo set to me. The reason why you may feel its lacking is because when compared to other suits, it actually falls behind abit in ranged combat. Basically, Nu gundam and all of the quebley variants are much easier to use because almost all of their ranged combos and musous have larger aoe than SF. SF tends to have small attack angles, and the only true aoe, the melee dragoon attack, counts as a melee attack and doesnt benefit from any shoot stat you have. And its got low base dmg to boot.

The only useless attack i thought the SF had (aside from it's normal ground special) was when it fires a beam from it's chest (pressing X 3 times then Y once). that's again mainly due to range issues. the rest of its attacks are generally good. It's last Y attack is sadly just a melee attack technically which is why one of the abilities you should give to the SF should buff that attack specifically.

I think my ability set for the SF was this:
-Hexa Drive
-Sniper
-Minovsky Drive
-Aura Burst
-Speed Star
I can't remember what the attachment limit was but i'll check to make sure when i get the chance. Basically Hexa Drive makes the Dragoon attack stronger while Sniper makes all the SF's beam attacks 1 hit kill against normal mobile suits and defensive field suits. The Minovsky,Aura, and Speed Star combination is something i usually give all my suits mainly because they are highly effective together.

Rather than having SF buffed up, some like the quebleys need to be nerfed. Its almost too easy to use funnel suits.

Some of the attacks that the funnel suits had were vicious. When given Hexa drive (atleast i think its that one) the Nu Gundam can 1 hit kill an ace pilot with its beam funnel pyramid on normal difficulties.

Im surprised you lot never commented on the new cell graphics. Visually the game looks a hellavalot better now, not that it was bad in the first place.

It looks far better. Kinda forgot to mention it lol.

Unicorn. Beast. Nuff said.

From what i've seen from the Unicorns attack set it will already have no issues clearing fields lol. In particular i love it's air special. It reminds me of the normal Gundam's air special from 2 except for the fact that it actually hits its targets lol.

Edit: Another thing i forgot to mention. I heard the 3rd game has an option where you can pick another character and MS to join you in a mission. That character is apparently supposed to jump in and help you from time to time during the mission.

Edited by Re4_wesker, 14 October 2010 - 07:34 PM.

[KiraYamatoFreedom]

Yeah I love the new cell shade graphics, they look sweet.

Actually that chest cannon shot is pretty good on bosses with sniper and the drive attachment that increase that charge attack. It works nicely on some crowds to.

If I remember correctly for SF my attachments were like this:
-Sniper:increases shot damage
-Hard Strike:increases melee damage
-Hexa Drive:Increase the C5(dragoon attack)
-something Drive: Increases the C3(chest cannon)
-Armor Gain: Recovers HP relative to damge inflicted

I am pretty sure this is right, and yeah you can only have 5 attachments, 1 for the head,two arms, and two legs that are the suits parts.


Yeah I remember fighting the Quebelys on hard, yesh that was not fun.

And the Unicorn does look pretty strong, but I really want to see some info or video showing 00 Raiser.


PS If you can find the song thanks.

Edited by KiraYamatoFreedom, 14 October 2010 - 10:56 PM.