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[yams in a can]

I am personally excited about the game, even though I am not really a fan of RPG's. I really wish they didn't have the mage though.

[Elvenlord]

Or if their are they look like fags aka like womenish.

Aka, Legolas.

And that's something wrong why? "Alas! By the Valar, these (elves are good archers)/(dwarves use axes)/(humans are actually mortal)! It's so stereotypical, and it was even mentioned in the books! IT MUST BE STOPPED, or this game will SUCK."

The only beef I have with this is the elven archers. Yes, some where good archers, but they could also use just about any weapon with skill. Furthermore, all the races used bows, even so far as the Gondorians were known for their bowmen.

And mages. Fuck mages.

[drogoth232]

Or if their are they look like fags aka like womenish.

Aka, Legolas.

And that's something wrong why? "Alas! By the Valar, these (elves are good archers)/(dwarves use axes)/(humans are actually mortal)! It's so stereotypical, and it was even mentioned in the books! IT MUST BE STOPPED, or this game will SUCK."

The only beef I have with this is the elven archers. Yes, some where good archers, but they could also use just about any weapon with skill. Furthermore, all the races used bows, even so far as the Gondorians were known for their bowmen.

And mages. Fuck mages.

This gets the droggy approval

[Spartan184]

Yeah, I've always hated mage shit in Lotr, it bothers me cause that's all anyone's gonna use.

[drogoth232]

And find a way to exploit it. A shame.

[{IRS}Athos]

And that's something wrong why? "Alas! By the Valar, these (elves are good archers)/(dwarves use axes)/(humans are actually mortal)! It's so stereotypical, and it was even mentioned in the books! IT MUST BE STOPPED, or this game will SUCK."

The only beef I have with this is the elven archers. Yes, some where good archers, but they could also use just about any weapon with skill. Furthermore, all the races used bows, even so far as the Gondorians were known for their bowmen.

And mages. Fuck mages.

Indeed.

Also, I have another thing to add to the anathema list, if they show up. "HOBBITS ARE SHORT!"

[yams in a can]

It actually is not the against the Lore of LOTR that Men, or orcs, to use magic.

A quote from The Fellowship of the ring...

"I once knew every spell in all the tongues of Elves or Men or Orcs, that was ever used for such a purpose. I can still remember ten score of them without searching in my mind."

In reality, Tolkien did say that men could use spells, so it is actually not going against the lore.

[Spartan184]

Not the point I hate magic mages and stuff in lotr. Well atleast it is for me.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Different type of magic too.
Tolkien's style of magic is typically enchanted objects with only the Istari doing the more traditional stuff.

[Lauri]

Mellon is a magic word that opens a gate. Nuff said

[{IRS}Athos]

Gandalf is not saying that he knows spells in Westron. He is saying that he knows spell words in Westron. Incantations and the capacity to do magic are two completely different things. Would you like to think that orcs were magical, too? Or that Thuringwethil was sparkly and had golden eyes? After all, it didn't say that they weren't, did it?

The point I'm trying to make here is that, just b ecause it wasn't directly contradicted in the Lore, doesn't mean it's true.

[Retharias]

I have to agree with {IRS}Athos on this one. The ONLY mages they should have in lotr games are characters like gandalf, saruman, or ANY of the istari, really. Other than that, no.

But this game seems kinda bloody compared to other lotr-franchise games, does it not?

Not saying that's a bad thing, of course! But it just might tip the game's rating from T to M, especially if the game itself is as gory as the trailer.

Edited by Rokqua Shadowkin, 14 September 2010 - 03:31 AM.

[Elvenlord]

Didn't they announce it would be M?

[Kwen]

They did indeed. First rated M LotR game.

[Elegost]

Yeah , indeed you can cut off heads of orcs , as seen in the trailer ; I think it's a good point , because in the other LOTR games like TT , it was a little bit frustrating that we cannot take off or cut off the heads of uruks or orcs

[Taralom]

And that's something wrong why? "Alas! By the Valar, these (elves are good archers)/(dwarves use axes)/(humans are actually mortal)! It's so stereotypical, and it was even mentioned in the books! IT MUST BE STOPPED, or this game will SUCK."

sorry for responding so late.
It is 'wrong', if that is even a remotely good word for it, because dwarves do more than just check out rock formations for weaknesses. It is as you yourself said, Hobbits are short, Elves are good archers, Humans... multiply and dwarves build with stone. Do something else, for fuck's sake. Make those dwarves do stuff that is new!

[Lauri]

This really seems to be another game wasting it's potential.. Like Conquest

[yams in a can]

I hope you guys do not think that the writer is non-Tolkien. He is a huge Tolkien fan who has actually corrected the tolkien estate people about LOTR lore. You can't be hard on the game because it's rated M, because it's only rated M for gore. I doubt there will be much cursing, because cursing doesn't fit in LOTR. And sexual stuff... the closest thing in LOTR that's close to sex is Boromir blowing the horn of Gondor.

I am confused on how Multiplayer would work besides the story. LOTR is hardly free roaming.

LotR is not an open world, and it should not be considered as such. (LotRO pushes as far as it can.) An open world, by definition, cannot be fully true to LotR's lore. LotR's story only works because it relies on characters who are extremely different than the rest of their kind; in other words, they are heroes precisely because nobody else could have accomplished what they did.

-A brilliant quote by an excellent member of MEC

Edited by yams in a can, 18 September 2010 - 04:52 PM.

[Elvenlord]

No one said it would be bad because it's going to be M. In fact, I was excited it was going to be the first M lotr game. No, we're saying it's going to suck for, I don't, random mages, even more random people riding fellbeasts, and (for me anyway) still not being able to play as an elf warrior. Fuck that shit.

And how is lotr not free-roaming? The main story of the trilogy isn't, but who the hell said it has have the same story? Lotr is perfect for just exploring. Unless my definition of an open world is different than everyone else's.

[Mathijs]

I do believe that it is very possible to create an open-world game set in Middle-earth. You'd just have to really flesh out the gameplay, some pretty hardcore stuff, no fast-travel, no extreme fighting abilities, have to be smart and calculated to survive, et cetera. It probably wouldn't appeal enough to the masses, but it'd make me drop a few classes for sure.

Even though Tolkien didn't describe every square mile of Middle-earth, I'm sure the more remote regions could be filled up realistically. No real need to make up a bunch of badly-named towns and story-arcs as seen in LOTRO if you ask me. I'd be happy to just go around and experience the lush world, see what Tolkien said was there (or, at most, a few towns derived from writing that implied a possible habitation,) do battle with roaming Orc-bands, clear them out from the northern parts of Eriador, go south to see the stretching farm-lands of Belfalas, et cetera. It would be so awesome, but it'd never sell. People are impatient.