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#41 yams in a can

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 08:01 PM

You could give the crossbow as inn unit from the Iron Hills. They would seem nice to have cross bows. You could make an Esgorath crossbow man. (Esgaroth is the lake town in the Hobbit)

I prefer crossbows mainly because they are powerful, and the dwarfs are about power. Another thing for the dwarfs. Instead of dwarves, it should be dwarfs. (With an 'f', that's how they are supposed to be written)

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 08:14 PM

Another thing for the dwarfs. Instead of dwarves, it should be dwarfs. (With an 'f', that's how they are supposed to be written)

Incorrect. In LotR, it is clearly written 'Dwarves'. In other literature (i.e., Narnia), it is written as 'Dwarfs', but in the LotR canon, it is 'Dwarves.'
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 08:30 PM

Give that dwarf some sleeves :dry:
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:15 PM

Incorrect. In LotR, it is clearly written 'Dwarves'. In other literature (i.e., Narnia), it is written as 'Dwarfs', but in the LotR canon, it is 'Dwarves.'

Tolkien was ridiculed because of this, but he thought it sounded better.

I want to see it in action. What anims does it use?

Edited by Gfire, 19 October 2009 - 09:17 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 09:25 PM

Gondor archer anims... looks great actually, except ONE anim, if you're picky. The arrow sorta goes a bit into the arm when he's "loading" the bow... This is due to the thick arms of the bulky dwarves, hehe!

That's very nicely done. I think the tunics should be brown instead of blue though. Are the models rigged and animated?


Yes, rigged by TheDeadPlayer (and thus animated).

Give that dwarf some sleeves :dry:


My plan is to have leather jackets without sleeves and chainmail underneath, which would cover the arms! :)

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 10:01 PM

i think the bow should be shorter and thicker, and take longer time to draw back. so it appears really powerful. right now i think the bow looks like something the men of dale would use
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 10:47 PM

Now what would be realistic, is if the range units could run out of arrows or whatever they use ,and that you could train lik amunition wagons to resupply them. And if they arn't supplied, they have to go automatic melee mode. just and idea those dwarf archers look freaking great btw! :dry:
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 10:52 PM

Now what would be realistic, is if the range units could run out of arrows or whatever they use ,and that you could train lik amunition wagons to resupply them. And if they arn't supplied, they have to go automatic melee mode. just and idea those dwarf archers look freaking great btw! :dry:



That would be interesting. Somewhat of a drag for players, but realistic. After all, you have to run out of arows sometime (unlike Legolas's arrows in the movie :)).
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:06 PM

I found it interesting that the book specifically mentions when legolas is down to one arrow at helms deep.
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:26 PM

I found it interesting that the book specifically mentions when legolas is down to one arrow at helms deep.


Yes, and didn't Legolas mention after the battle of Amon Hen that his arrows were spent? He had to look for undamaged Orc arrows that he could use.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 12:26 AM

I don't remember. :p
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 12:38 AM

I don't remember. ;)


I thought that he said it at Amon Hen as well, of course I don't have my book in front of me. But now, I have to look it up. :p
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 12:40 AM

Sadly, I do have my book in front of me.

A little to the right, actually, sitting on the hutch.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 12:59 AM

Sadly, I do have my book in front of me.

A little to the right, actually, sitting on the hutch.


Luckily, I didn't have to go get my book because I used Tolkien Gateway:

When ambushed on Amon Hen, Legolas shot many orcs until his arrows ran out, then used his knife.


There. The answer to the great question. :p
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:26 AM

Now what would be realistic, is if the range units could run out of arrows or whatever they use ,and that you could train lik amunition wagons to resupply them. And if they arn't supplied, they have to go automatic melee mode. just and idea those dwarf archers look freaking great btw! :p



Lol yea, and coding AI for that would be like a walk in the park... ;)

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 02:03 PM

Hehe... yeah, I can imagine.

I wouldn't expect TG to say that he ran out of arrows. :p
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 12:30 AM

Hehe... yeah, I can imagine.

I wouldn't expect TG to say that he ran out of arrows. :xcahik_:



Well, it did. :p Lucky me that I didn't have to get my book.

Even if that idea for the running out of arrows wouldn't work, the idea itself is still cool. :p
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 02:00 AM

Yeah. Requires too much micro, though. Maybe more a more micro-central game or mod, with no hordes and very low units cap, but the BFME engine isn't really fit for that.
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 12:29 AM

Yeah. Requires too much micro, though. Maybe more a more micro-central game or mod, with no hordes and very low units cap, but the BFME engine isn't really fit for that.


Thinking about it, it seems that it would get kind of annoying too. Sometimes it is just more fun to play a game and have all the weapons nver run out of "ammo." Of course, there are some who love to play games that are very realistic...

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 12:57 PM

That wouold to TOO realistic, and too hard coded for the AI. I do NOT want things that cant be controlled by the AI :cool2:

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