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[smashedsaturn]

i would like to see lucrehulks as rebel battleships/carriers. they could be available to the rebels as starting forces or otherwise because a large number of them were sold to commercial sectors and as scrap so they could be aqquired by the rebels.
then providences could be aqquired as starting forces on old cis planets to serve as decent starting cruisers.
munificents and banking clan frigates could be added as well to add a litttle long range punch to starting forces.
a mandater for the rebels or empire because the empire declared them obsolete so i could see the rebels trying to aquire some to bolster thier forces.
attes and atrts on kamino as surplus war materials
arquitens and consular class ships at corusant or something as part of initail fleet
hailfire, and spider droids as cis starting units
and corellian cruisers and battleships available as starting forces from corellia
quite a list i know but id just like to see some of them availabl

Too bad we have no idea what a corriee but still they could be good to add and maybe if i get lucky some of them will be added

Too bad we have no idea what a corellian battleship looks like

[Zeta1127]

I really want to see the big, Corellian ships, like the Corellian battleship, since the written EU seems to be hellbent on turning the Strident-class into a clone of the new TEGtW Viscount herself.

[johnchm.10]

Providence class and Lucrehulk class as special starting forces/heroes (Gizor Dellso could use one or the other as an upgrade, Fortressa and Rebel One being other hero units)
Also I'd like to point out that for the Lucrehulk class to be presented porperly its compliment would have to be pretty low grade. Maybe mid level Z-95s, early-mid level wings, early to mid Starchasers. Maybe the earliest X-wings/R-22 Spearheads at higher levels. Fortressa had 500ish X-wings yes but they almost had to be prototype grade or very low quality for the Alliance to have gathered so many after just acquiring earlier.


All of New Class should be added eventually I feel but as of now there are units that can feel the same roles that the New Class vessels serve mainly.
The MC90 conflicts slightly with my write in, the Dauntless Class heavy cruiser. I’ve always liked the Dauntless for some reason. Doing a few rough calculations and estimations give it just a few more turbolasers than the MC90 and more Ion Cannons, but no evidence of Proton Torpedoes and fewer fighter. The Dauntless is a SoroSuub design, thus diversifying the Rebel/NR fleet slightly. Perhaps if it were eventually added (eviljeedi does have a model it looks like) it could be more combat focused with Power to Weapons rather than Power to Sheilds as seen in most Mon Cal designs. Also its “excellent sensors and countermeasure systems” could be represented by sensor pings or jamming respectively. There is a named Dauntless now and at least one is shown at the battle of Yag’Dhul (Vong war so after out time period, but still support for them in Canon)
http://starwars.wiki...s_heavy_cruiser

if i recall correctly, Dellso had in his possession a Providence class Destroyer in Star Wars Battlefront 2.
wait a minute, a year or so after first getting the designs, Fortressa fielded over 500 X-wings. well, there is one way that could work. the Lucrehulk might be large enough for a small to mid-sized production facility, along with getting a few in every so often to bolster the line. when it comes down to it, the Lucrehulk was once a cargo ship, meaning that its got a LOT of room to work with.
Dauntless: the stats seem incomplete, although its likely that some basic extrapolations could be made. the ship was actually in Rebellion, so time period isnt a big issue
the New Class ships were designed to replace the motley assortment of ships the Alliance had cobbled together, so thats kinda the point of the program

i would like to see lucrehulks as rebel battleships/carriers. they could be available to the rebels as starting forces or otherwise because a large number of them were sold to commercial sectors and as scrap so they could be aqquired by the rebels.
then providences could be aqquired as starting forces on old cis planets to serve as decent starting cruisers.
munificents and banking clan frigates could be added as well to add a litttle long range punch to starting forces.
a mandater for the rebels or empire because the empire declared them obsolete so i could see the rebels trying to aquire some to bolster thier forces.
attes and atrts on kamino as surplus war materials
arquitens and consular class ships at corusant or something as part of initail fleet
hailfire, and spider droids as cis starting units
and corellian cruisers and battleships available as starting forces from corellia
quite a list i know but id just like to see some of them availabl

Too bad we have no idea what a corriee but still they could be good to add and maybe if i get lucky some of them will be added

Too bad we have no idea what a corellian battleship looks like

I really want to see the big, Corellian ships, like the Corellian battleship, since the written EU seems to be hellbent on turning the Strident-class into a clone of the new TEGtW Viscount herself.

well, i think the Freeworlds mod for Freelancer might have something. if i recall, they made a CEC Frigate that isnt the CC-7700.
if at least an Image of the Strident surfaces, that would be a godsend

[Phoenix Rising]

I'm not sure that the Invisible Hand is even one of the 1088-meter Providences. I think it might end up being the bigger battleship size.

The good thing about the Republic for now is that it fits into TO and OSH, whereas the Nebula/Endurance could not be used in starting forces. We do have a problem with the rest of New Class if CTD continues to be the best source though.

Well, the buildable Recusant isn't the original model, but a heavily retrofitted one akin to the Dodonna. Many of the CIS holdouts are effectively early Rebels.

I won't worry about performance so much that we can no longer add new units.

I have the Dauntless at 52 heavy turbolasers and 52 turboions. That's a pretty reliable conversion from Rebellion.

I don't get that about the Strident, either. Actually, I was hoping Giel's ship was a Corellian battleship due to the command tower, but I guess it just predates the "terror styling" of later KDYs.

[johnchm.10]

the wookie article says its the standard 1088-meter long Providence. and there are shots in the film as well as the cross sections book for EP3 that have Obi-Wan and Anakin's fighters in the hanger if you want to try to scale it.

its a shame we barely saw the Republic-class.

Recusant: thats not a surprise, as the ship was originally built for a Droid army, not an organic one.

not gonna lie, i almost read that as " we cant add any new units, so dont worry about it."

Dauntless i have no issue with except that of stats for some of the other systems like shields and hull strength, speed, etc.

Strident: this is the only image ive seen for the strident. i have no idea where it comes from, i dont know if its even canon, and the stats on this site i know know if they woulf be acceptable. i have no idea how D-6 rules operate
http://rpggamer.org/...s Star Defender

[andrew1993]

is corellian battleship?

Edited by andrew1993, 28 June 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[johnchm.10]

hmm. can you send a bigger/better picture of this?
as well as any stats/reference you have?

if you have a link to a site thats got both, that would work as well

Edited by johnchm.10, 28 June 2012 - 10:27 PM.

[Zeta1127]

That ship is commonly called a Corellian Destroyer, and its a fanon design, since there aren't any canon images, andrew1993. The Steiner Modding Group (SMG) had a lot of Corellian ships; I don't know if they created them, but they have proliferated the EaW/FoC modding community. The SMG Corellian ships are the Corellian Battlecruiser, the Corellian Destroyer, the Corellian Light Cruiser, the Corellian Frigate, and the Corellian Heavy Gunship.

[johnchm.10]

hmm. a shame my german sucks.
they have a list or page of models or anything like that?

Edited by johnchm.10, 29 June 2012 - 01:07 AM.

[Zeta1127]

The Corellian Battlecruiser, the Corellian Destroyer, and the Corellian Light Cruiser appeared in the Absolute Enhancement Mod and its FoC port Absolute Corruption Mod by Mobbman, an example of their proliferation.

[Chih]

is corellian battleship?

Looks like the Corellian destroyer from Freeworlds: Tides of War

http://95.211.31.155...yer&ParentID=51

[johnchm.10]

hmm. the models are well made, but im not a fan of the general looks of the ship. and i find it difficult to believe that shes got no indicated fighter compliment

[Kitkun]

I'm not particularly fond of those models, they look like kitbashes of other Corellian ships.

Edited by Kitkun, 30 June 2012 - 04:31 AM.

[johnchm.10]

to be fair, CEC does pride themselves on the adaptability of their ships, and by extension, their components, so kitbashing is somewhat acceptable. hell, at least the kitbashes look better than the ones in dare i say, star trek.

[andrew1993]

That ship is commonly called a Corellian Destroyer, and its a fanon design, since there aren't any canon images, andrew1993. The Steiner Modding Group (SMG) had a lot of Corellian ships; I don't know if they created them, but they have proliferated the EaW/FoC modding community. The SMG Corellian ships are the Corellian Battlecruiser, the Corellian Destroyer, the Corellian Light Cruiser, the Corellian Frigate, and the Corellian Heavy Gunship.

ok

[Phoenix Rising]

The bigger Corellian ships were done by EvilleJedi (somewhere in here). I think they're supposed to be based on background Dark Empire ships, but I've only confirmed one or two (behind Sidious).

That's a really nice Strident render, although I don't agree with the stats.

[johnchm.10]

the ship does in fact seem to be rather overpowered for her size. here we have a ship with a fighter capacity greater than the Imperial class Star Destroyer, far more weapons, better engines, sensors, passive defenses (Shields and hull armor), and other secondary equipment, all while carrying enough consumables for 4 years, 2/3 of the Imperial class. granted that technology has improved in the decades since the development of the original Imperial class, but this is a little much. were talking 216 batteries of weapons, 80 of them Heavy Warhead Launchers, and the cannons are more powerful on the Strident.
something has got to be wrong with this picture. hopefully the dimensions of the ships are simply wrong, and the ship is actually a good deal larger than its current stats. if that is the case, the stats are more forgivable.

[Phoenix Rising]

It's simpler than that: the stats are fanon. Why build a modern ship with 80 heavy warhead launchers when the Victory I phased them out 45 years ago? It's backwards.

[MawDrallin]

One ship I would like to see added to the New Republic's arsenal is the Majestic-class Heavy Cruiser, a New Class Modernization design, made as an equal to the Imperial Star Destroyer. It was used during the Black Fleet Crisis and since we know the Republic-class Star Destroyer, another New Class warship was used during the Thrawn Campaign and Shadow Hand, it could be added to the New Republic's Fleet Roster in Shadow Hand.

Also, if someone could come up with a new design for it, the Warrior-class Gunship would also be a good addition to Shadow Hand, being another New Class vessel and could be a good replacement to the CR90 and DP20 in this campaign.