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[Speeder]

Let's do a different type of feedback thread and focus on what you think are the overused, underused and completely not used (why-are-they-even-there-nobody-uses-that kind of things) objects and support powers in Mental Omega 3.3.0. The NotUsed ones are the things that interest me the most, since I'll either want to enhance these objects/powers, remove or replace.

 

When you write about a certain object/support power, write its name in bold font.

 

I recommend that you take a quick look at faction's tech trees because the objects/support powers that you already forgot about or didn't even know existed are the ones that you should probably mention.

[Damfoos]

I question the usefullness of HQ Genomine:

$600 Genomines trigger on $100 dogs and &50 conscripts without even mutating them, explode when the target is too far away to be even slightly damaged, trigger on vehicles only to scratch their paint a bit, trigger all at once if packed close and spawn neutral Brutes in those rare cases when they manage to kill something, these Brutes then attack my own stuff and my units don't threat them as enemies. What's the profit of building these things then?

[CLAlstar]

Overused:

Foxtrots - currently best jet in game, avaible at tier 1.5 (before t2), in group of 4 unlike any other jets can take out battle labs.

Knightframe - in bigger groups, these guys with their splash create an impassable killzone

Zorbtrotters/floaters - Outranges most of anti-infantry infantry, thanks to their splash and range even in small numbers they can decimate entire infantry batalions

Megalodon - with shield affecting insanely big arena, they can just walk through bases while destroying any kind of infantry resistance, also makes them too tanky

Shadray - currently super effective vs everything

Reprocessor - Case obvious. Grants too many benefits.

 

Underused:

Dybbuk-A - Worst jet in game, barely helpful in early, not worth the money in lategame

Sniper - Weakest Allied T3 side specific infantry.

[Destroyencio]

Battleship - Pretty much underused, too expensive really slow firing and bad accuracy, carriers do the job much better.

[X1Destroy]

Underused:
Eureka When was the last time I need to use her playing as Wings of Coronia? Never I guess. Too situational to use. Cause friendly fire to nearby allied tanks and die really fast before actually doing any actual damage. Doesn't kill anything except vehicles, and thus useless when there are a tons of Pteranodons who can do that job much better.

Achelon Doesn't do anything beside killing enemy infantry and healing friendlies. A single Adept and it's your troops who'll get devoured. Shouldn't have been a stolen from Epsilon, because it's so easy for them to counter what's supposed to give you an advantage against them.

Blasticade Is this thing even used in serious matches at all? For a SW it requires way too much attention and preparations to be of good uses. And it can be avoided completely once detected.

Edited by X1Destroy, 19 January 2017 - 06:35 PM.

[Divine]

Underused:

 

Epsilon's Vision support power. Just what are the chances that it will reveal anything significant? If you cast it over an area, you probably already have the suspicion that something's about to happen there. 

 

Similarly, the Mind Reader's use is very limited as well, and it's very easy to counter (just don't directly send your units in its range until the last moment). I'm yet to see a game where someone builds it.

Edited by Divine, 19 January 2017 - 06:43 PM.

[XoGamer]

Kinetic Barrier is pretty crap imo but I don't use Epsilon that much.

 

EDIT: I don't know if it is underused etc. but I've never seen anyone use it.

Edited by XoGamer, 19 January 2017 - 07:19 PM.

[codyfun123]

Underused:

 

Dybbuk-Seizer is rather unpopular due to its unresponsiveness during & after a run, and are seen as not very worthwhile compared to some of the other stolen tech options.

[Admiral_Pit]

Well here's my big and painful list.  Sorry I didn't place em in an Underused/Overused list in order.

 

Allied

Spoiler

Siege Cadre

I don't see these troops much at all.  DPS-wise, SEALs definitely outclass em, as well as detect stealth, but Cadres don't really get much attention at all.  I would think some players would use em for their range to slowly pick off buildings/defenses and infantry, but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Most prefer SEALs in helicopters for busting cases apparently.  Underused.

 

Chrono Legionnaire

Despite their little buff I've been hearing about, they're still way underused, or even ignored completely by the majority of players.  Whether it's their price or that they're so high up the tech tree (this part I can understand) that they usually don't matter when there's many other units before them that are effective before you even get them, they're just underused... I dont know what other way to put it.

 

IFV-class units

This is a tricky subject to say really,  Here's from my experience.  Overall, they are used in early/mid game with the GI/SEAL variations for killing infantry, some use em as Engineer transports or for repairs... But they're not so common in late-game, besides the Tanya IFV thing.  As far as I see it, the Tsurugi is the rarest one.  You'd think players would make use of its immunity to Radiation and Poison for something, but apparently not.  As for the Archon, I don't see EA much anyways, so I can't say completely.  Tsurugis underused.  The others are grey area.

 

Battle Tortoise

I'm probably biased because this is what I see so much every time Pacific's on the field (and that they counter China), but these things are used so much, and it really depends.  These things carry a combination of GGIs and SEALs, and that's really it, and different players may accompany em with Zephyrs and/or Hailstorms.  I know that's what Pacific does, but it feels like only certain subfactions can bust through this, especially with how heavily bulky the BT is.  Again, it's probably my bias talking, but whatever.

 

Blizzard Tank

Most PF players I faced ignore these tanks and just go for BT/Hailstorm/Zephyr combinations.  Underused.

 

Suppressor

Same situation as Blizzard tanks.  Underused.

 

Battleship

I really can't say I've seen any when in a naval skirmish against Allied factions.  They're probably ignored in favor of those Aircraft Carriers.  Underused.

 

Hummingbird

Underused.  Many players favor Fighters/Bombers for either busting buildings or specific units.  The Hummingbird however, I don't really see many at all.  You'd think the USA players would at least have one to go with their Mercury attacks...

 

Ore Purifier

I'll just make it short: Underused, and I feel the reason is that they're not as effective as the other factions' eco buildings, and it feels like the Purifier is more of a power-draining burden more than anything else.

 

Zephyrbot

I just don't see em used often.  Whether the player doesn't have enough Zephyrs or that it's often avoided, I ain't sure.  Underused.

 

Sonar Pulse

Let's be honest.  Does anyone actually even use this?  You'd think someone would at least use it to look for Soviet/Epsilon navy or something.  Underused.

 

Chronolift

Um... I don't know.  I don't really see this used at all.  I mean I have ideas to move key stuff outta the way or move a small group of defenses right onto the enemy, but the ability itself don't seem to be seen at all.

 

 

Soviet

Spoiler

 

Crazy Ivan

Underused outside of Borillo rush tactics.

 

Foxtrot

I think we know that it's OP atm and thus is overused, not just because it's one of 2 Soviet planes.  Can't wait for its nerf.

 

Dustdevil

On the other side of the air spectrum, Dustdevils seem to be very rare on the battlefield.  I guess players just prefer killers over Attack Debuffers.  I'm probably inclined to say it's one of the most uncommon Soviet units of all.

 

Halftrack/Tigr APC

This one was a very difficult decision for me to figure out where they stand but I don't see these things much at all, especially in late-game.  Most players prefer their Catastrophes/WHs/Sentinels to fill in the AA role, but yet most don't see the benefits these little transports provide.  As far as I see it, Halftracks are surprisingly underused to me, besides me being the one to use a lot of em.  I'm probably gonna have to ask other players about this one but for now, Underused.

 

Demo Truck/Bomb Buggy

Even to this day, these things are underused, and honestly I can understand, especially against an opponent that has planes just waiting to take em out.  At the same time, they are reasonably costly and easily breakable.  Underused.

 

Stalin's Fist

Um...  I can't really tell if many Russia users actually use one of these, but I definitely do not see em around often.  Underused for now.

 

Tesla Cruiser

When I fight most Russia players, they definitely mass these things, even to attack buildings too.  Might see a few WHs, Scuds, and the usual, but the TC usage is definitely high.  Overused.

 

Dragonfly

Yep.  Still waiting for other China users to make use of Dragonflies besides me.  I think I saw em used once, but very poorly.  Underused.

 

Buratino

This one was kinda tricky to think about.  Some LC players use quite a bit of em with their Catas, and others ignore using them for the most part in favor of just massing Catas...  I wanna put this in the grey area for now, but something to keep watch for.

 

Vulture

Underused.  Most LC players I see prefer to just mass Catas and pay no attention to Vultures.  They're more underused than Buratinos honestly.

 

Repair Crane

I'm surprised I don't see many of these on the field at all.  Underused.

 

Smoke Turret

Whenever I battle LC, I honestly don't see these things around their bases at all.  Most favor either Hammer/Flak guns or just massing Catas.  Underused.

 

Sensor Tower

Yet another building I don't see much of at all except from me and select few players.  Underused, but so underrated.

 

Irradiation

Okay, really.. this one actually bothers me a lot.  When I come across other China opponents, one of two things happen:  Either they use em on my forces instead of their own vehicles (and thus incorrectly), or don't use it at all.  It's sad because this ability has saved my hide many times.  Underused.

 

Wallbuster

I don't think I see this ability used much at all either besides from me, or other China players use em incorrectly.  It's probably sorta like that whenever I come across China opponents.  Underused.

 

Smoke Bombs

Don't see this power used much at all.  Underused.

 

Overcharge

Only few Russia players I see actually use it, and even less correctly.  Underused.

 

 

Epsilon

Spoiler

 

Dune Rider

When I'm looking for an underused Epsilon unit, this one comes to my mind first.  Some say that they're not cost efficient or something, but I still think they have great use, especially since they're good for amphibious travel and well, you know... being a detector!  Underused, especially true for HQ players as Stalkers (Tyrants for Scorpion Cell) fill the anti-building role well.

 

Rahn and Irkalla

This is probably my bias talking, but almost every HQ player I come across really loves these two.  I understand they're heroes and are powerful, but with Rahn's buff and such, it's no secret that most HQ that I encounter actually do tech rush just to get them both and well, I am almost considering them as a crutch.  Overused.

 

Shadow Tank

This is hard to say, but I think only a select few players that use HQ give Shadow Tanks attention, and thus I consider em underused.

 

Marauder Tank

It's also hard to say because Psi Corps is the most uncommon Epsilon Subfaction used, but when I do come across em, the tank is not used much at all.  I guess the fragile state is the reason, but I can't ultimately judge yet, but I will say underused for now.

 

Dybbuk-A

Underused.  It isn't that great of an aircraft really

 

Dybbuk-E

Most players prefer Attackers over Evolvers if I ever do encounter an Epsilon with an Aerodome, so Evolvers are underused to me.  They are kinda expensive too honestly.

 

Giant Squid

Underused.  Most prefer Piranha/Resheph naval attacks and ignore Squids altogether.

 

Basilisk

I do not see em like i used to.  Most Epsilon prefer to go through with mass infantry with a few tanks here and there, but Basilisk attacks I do not see much of at all anymore.  Underused.

 

Tyrant

This one is quite questionable.  It's overused when I come across many SC players, and I can understand, but I think it's the fact that a large number of em moving underground to scare your opponent all the time (while you plan another attack) and come up to bust buildings when seeing an open area is the big problem.  I think finding a way for select weapons or something to actually hurt underground units might help with this problem.

 

Tank Bunker

Definitely underused.  My assumption is that either because air units suppress em or ppl just prefer other base defenses.

 

Genomine

I don't think I've ever seen one used by anyone besides me at all (when I get HQ on random that is).  This is perhaps the most underused Epsilon thing I can even list.

 

Grinder

Easily underused.

 

Fake Structures

Very rare honestly.  I only know Alstar to use the Fake Psychic Dominator.

 

 

Foehn

Spoiler

Railguneer

This is an underused nanofiber'd infantry honestly.  Either the player's busy fibering different troops or they just ignore Lancers in late-game sometimes (especially Last Bastion users).

 

Duplicant

One of the more underused infantry units really.  Same as what I said about Railguneers, except Duplicants are almost non-existent.

 

Synchronin and Synchronaut

Underused, especially the nanofiber'd ones.

 

Deviatress

I do see Huntresses, but really never their nano'd forms.  Probably almost non-existent, but I'd probably at least see em more over Duplicants.

 

Zorbtrotter and Zorbfloater

Easily overused for how effective they are at busting infantry groups, especially the nano'd form.  Honestly gonna say they may need a nerf, especially the Floater's healing speed.

 

GiantsBane and GodsBane

Let's face it.  They're overused especially the Godsbanes.  I can't really find a way to counter a large group of these guys without Iron Curtained Terror Drones.  Perhaps they, especially the Godsbanes, need a nerf somehow, or more noticeable counters.

 

SODAR Array

Very underused, even when counting the few that are around bases.  I really never see one accompanying an attack force either.  You think there's a way for it to be improved to encourage using it or will the players just miss out?

 

Pteranodon

Definitely overused.  It's actually to the point where some players may even spam these to attack bases after they bust through armor divisions and miners.  I do think a nerf is in order for em somehow, but not sure how.  It's between their huge HP or their ability to fire on the move, or simply their speed I'd say.  I know infantry/base defenses counter em, but Soviets probably have the worst time, honorable mention to Epsilon and their Gatling Cannons doing little to nothing against them.

 

Tarchia

Underused.  Most Coronia prefer the flying bombers over these things.  That's it really.

 

Eureka

Underused.  Can cause friendly fire, doesn't often catch the units, and is generally only anti-armor, and as someone said before, Pteranodons do the job better.

 

Diverbee

Underused.  Most Haihead players I come across prefer to mass Megalodons and ignore Diverbees.

 

Megalodon

Overused.  Powerful, especially with the arena power that helps em bust through mass infantry, while making em very bulky too.

 

Turmoil Grid

I specifically said this one instead of Stun Grid because some players actually do use Stun ones, but mostly to just keep spies away from their Cloud Piercer.

 

Reprocessor

No explanation needed on it being overused except that it needs nerfs.

 

Blast Furnace

Very underused.  I would guess most maps that don't have flat surfaces make it hard for this SW to be used really well and even then, little to no person builds it in the first place.

 

Knightfall

You'd think that from many of the Coronia players that I see some of em would at least use this.  Most don't, and thus underused.

 

Signal Jammer

I think this is really non-existent as an ability.  Underused.

 

Quetzal Shield

Surprised I don't see Coronia players use this.  Underused.

 

 

 

Other

Naval Transports

When naval combat is available, I do not see these things at all.  Underused.

 

I suppose that's from what I remember so far.  Hope i don't miss any.

Edited by Admiral_Pit, 19 January 2017 - 09:41 PM.

[aethiraes]

Here are some units that I personally underuse. I try to be as versatile as possible and use every aspect of the arsenal, but there are still some powers/units that I neglect. 

 

Siege Cadre - Underused. Cadre don't seem very versatile, they're only useful against buildings. I'd rather build a lot of light tanks, which deal decent damage against structures and can withstand an enemy attack. I wished that they could deal good damage against light vehicles because Allies seem to lack a strong T1+ anti-armour infantry. 

 

Sonar Pulse - Naval is just plain boring. Never used. 

 

Bomb Buggy / Demo Truck - Suicide units just seem unreliable to me, I underuse them. I prefer Borillos and Armadillos because they can actually contribute during fights. I once read that people prefer high-risk, high-reward even if there's a more safer option. This might be why I love spamming MADMAN rather than bomb buggies / demo trucks. 

 

Vultures - Catastrophes are already extremely versatile, so anti-air isn't a problem when I play LC. I only build 2-3 vultures to use smoke-cannons. I don't know if this counts as underused. 

 

Aerodome - Since Aerodome is entirely optional for the Epsilon tech tree, I tend to skip building this. The jets aren't that great either. 

 

Grinder - I forgot this existed. I'd rather send mind-controlled units to weaken an enemy attack anyways.

 

Signal Jammer - I don't know how to use this power effectively. You need to predict when enemies use their support powers, but it's quite hard, so I usually forget this exists. It might be more useful to cast it on your army as a protective shield. Against smart players who actually kill Raccoons, signal jammer may be useful because it can't be shut down by killing a unit.

 

SODAR Array - With Last Bastion relying so much on SODAR, I feel like Mentalmeisters go mental whenever people don't use SODAR. I typically build one, plant it near my Sweeper/Giantsbane/Shrike Nest defenses, and forget that it even exists. SODAR is a bit of boring mechanic. You deploy it, attack harder. 

 

Duplicants - Godsbane/Zorbfloaters are too powerful to waste Nanofiber Sync on a clairvoyant. Huntresses are the same tier as Clairvoyants, can throw nanites in range, can hijacks, and don't need to be sync'd. Huntresses make duplicants pointless. Duplicants should be repurposed into something else entirely. 

 

Diverbee - Similar to the Duplicant. Megalodons are already extremely powerful, so there's no role left for Diverbees to fill. Maybe Diverbees need to be cheaper. 

 

Blast Furnace - Giantsbane with SODAR is more versatile. Alanqa Skystation seems more potent. Haihead just spam Teratorn + SODAR. The only reason why I would ever use this is against Salamanders, because they're too strong to handle with any Foehn unit. 

 

Shadray Sonic Tank - Syncronin + Megalodon seems to be reasonably effective against structures, infantry, and units. I neglect using Shadray even for anti-air. I prefer Teratorn spam. 

 

 

EDIT: Nvm, duplicants are quite strong. They turn infantry spam into an infantry farm. This is definitely going to shift to overused. 

Edited by aethiraes, 28 January 2017 - 02:57 PM.

[Handepsilon]

Vulture using Smoke Cannons? What is this, 3.0?

[aethiraes]

Vulture using Smoke Cannons? What is this, 3.0?

 

They don't anymore? Jesus, that must be why they never deployed during skirmish for me. 

[Black/Brunez]

No comments about Fury Drones?

 

Don't get me wrong, I like them. But I nearly never saw people using them, to the point i was expecting to see people talking about them on this thread.

[Handepsilon]

They do deploy, except they drop napalm under them. Pretty good to harass stuff.

 

Never get them to deploy under a building yet though, and they're hard to control because :

 

1. They got long cooldown that applies to BOTH weapons, which significantly delays your machine gun attacks as well

2. If you don't attack something else after dropping napalm, they'll constantly drop them, which can ruin you big time if you decide to move your vultures into your base and forgot to force fire something else (and as result, setting your own base ablaze)

 

Saw Fury Drone once, used as artillery :v

[hxazgalor]

I can only offer my personal overused/underused units. I mostly play MO casually. I'm also trying to not use some units as often as I do (*koff* Wolfhounds *koff*), so I'm trying to juggle strategies, but I digress.
 

General:

Spoiler

Most battle tanks: Underused. I always tech up, admittedly, and the most they do is initial defense and clearing trees. Kappas do better, though, because they're amphibious; Rhinos too because paradropping them is always handy.

 

Stolen Tech units: Overused. Need I say more?   Only exceptions are the Chrono Prison, Grumble, Dybbuk-S and Archelon.
 
T3 defenses (i.e. Grand Cannon): Underused. Don't know why. I don't normally build them, instead relying on T1 and T2 defenses mostly.

 

Allies:

Spoiler

Siege Cadre: Underused. I was never an infantry-oriented player, so even though they outrange most defenses and units, I don't really see them as my go-to assault unit.
 
Navy SEAL: Underused. Besides blowing up bridges? Nada.
 
Riot Trooper: Not used. Again because I don't do infantry forces much.
 
Sniper: Underused. I use them mostly as a harasser, or to take out dogs from afar.
 
Norio: Overused. Always together with a squadron of Rocketeers. Handy af, especially slowing down infantry with the cryobeam (most of the time he ends up getting the kill) or hitting harder targets and letting the Rocketeers whittle what health left they have.
 
Siegfried: Overused, but not bordering on excessive. He's handy artillery to have, really.

 

Tanya: Underused. If used, mostly in a Stryker to snipe targets.
 
Robot Tank: Previously underused, now I need to have them to spot pesky Black Widow drones. I kinda like this change.
  
Any T3 anti-air (i.e. Aeroblaze): Except the Oxidizer, overused. Handy af, especially against the Irkalla when needed, or to shoot down pesky smoke bombers (Dustdevils and LC's Smoke Bombs support power). Oxidizer is underused, mostly because I never really use them.

 

Athena Cannon: Underused, even as the US' premier artillery unit.
 
Prism Tank: Underused. I go for broke with Thors. Gonna need to move away from Thors now
 
Zephyr: Underused. I didn't really like the concept of anti-armor artillery, don't know why.
 
Blizzard Tank: Overused. Didn't realize they can't attack buildings anymore until weeks ago, but they're very handy anti-unit tanks.
 
Battle Tortoise: Underused. Costly investment to me. I always go with Blizzards, Hailstorms, and supporting Kappas.
 
Thor Gunship: As mentioned, overused. They're excellent at striking bases and turning them to rubble, even if they're not as powerful anymore. They also make good defenders.
 
Sonar Scan, Zephyrobot: Underused. No desperate need for these.
 
Dolphins: Underused, but I now try to rely on them as first responders. This will change soon.
 
Battleship: Underused. Aircraft Carriers are better siege units than these guys.

Soviets:

Spoiler

Pyro, Tesla Trooper, Desolator: Overused at times. Normally used in tandem with a Borillo rush. Love these guys.

 

Arsonist: Overused. I love how they set everything alight, themselves included

 

Crazy Ivan, Mortar Quad: Underused. Hardly an investment. Crazy Ivans only to blow bridges up.

 

Volkov & Chitzkoi: Overused, even if I don't use them that much. I always make sure to have them handy.

 

Morales: Underused. Never saw a need.

 

Yunru: Underused. Most of the time, she's in the Centurion.
 
Gyrocopter: Previously overused, because they're handy in a pinch. Lately underused, mostly because I'm focusing on ground-pounders.
 
Borillo/Armadillo: Overused. Rushing with them and a whole load of Pyros, Tesla Troopers and Desolators (and sometimes Saboteurs and Chitzkoi too) is fun.

 

Fury Drone: Underused. Never really saw a need for these guys.

 

Vulture: Overused. I must have them, as they're my go-to for rapid assault or defense.

 
Nuwa Cannon: Overused. Always have these guys rolling in, the Centurion not far behind.

 

Foxtrot: Underused. Might consider having them around, but in the end never really used to effectiveness.
 
Kirovs: Now underused. I just hated that RA2/YR always had the AI resort to Kirov waves to crush me and my AI allies, or vice versa. So I'm weaning away from this unit.

 
Epsilon:

Spoiler

Epsilon Adepts/Elites: Surprisingly underused. I don't know why, no compulsion either. Same goes for the Mastermind: underused.

 

Dunerider: Used to be overused. But after being so easily picked off by almost anything (I blame the AI's vendetta against virtually everything, especially dogs), now underused.

 

Bloatick: Underused. I prefer spending on other things.

 

Brutes: Underused, except when I have Rahn mutating people all over the battlefield.

 

Stalker: Overused. If I go with infantry strategies, mostly it's with these guys.

 

Rahn: Overused. Can't help it, he's a psychotic, powerful hero to have.

 

Libra, Malver: Underused.

 

Libra Clones: Overused. I always mass them, admittedly. Handled carefully, they can dish out considerable damage.

 

Marauder: Underused. As PsiCorps I tend to go with Magnetrons and Basilisks, supported by Libra clones.

 

Shadow Tank: Underused. Rather weak, even if they are meant to be that way.

 

Colossus: Underused at times.

 

Irkalla: Overused, mostly as base defense. Or late game in-your-face-ha-ha-take-that tactics.

 

Dybbuk-A: Underused. Despite that, I tend to have at least four in my base, just in case. But most of the time, they don't get used.

 

Dybbuk-E: Underused. Not a worthwhile investment for me.

Giant Squid: Underused. Schools of Piranhas are better at doing their job. Should consider Squids as tanking units, though.

 
Foehn:

Spoiler

Specialist units (i.e. Zorbtrotters): Except the Giantsbane, underused. Gianstbanes are not overused. I tend to use them more for defensive purposes. I also never make use of Godsbanes. Don't know why, never compelled to.
 
Eureka: Underused. To me, she's quite micro-oriented, while I'm not a very good micro player.
 
Uragan: Overused. Like Siegfried, but Uragan can fly.
 
M.A.D.M.A.N.: Overused. I just love how it blows things up. It's a majestic sight. I probably won't use him in MP matches, though.
 
Megalodon/Shadray/Mastodon/Gharial: Overused. I don't field a lot of Megalodons because I usually use them with a Megaarena or two. Mastodons and Gharials are my Last Bastion assault strategy.
 
Diverbee: Underused. Should definitely use them more; kamikaze drones are handy against beefy targets anyway.
 
Buzzard/Quetzal: Overused. Buzzards because they're an essential gunship; Quetzal because airborne artillery.

[GuardianGI]

My personal list?
Seriously Underused: Seige Cadres
From what I know, only I use them, and even then, it doesn't help too much.
Seriously Overused: Foxtrots and Tyrants
Foxtrots because well... every soviet player uses them (including myself), since they are too good at their job.
Tyrants are here for too many reasons, including: nearly unstoppable unless you dump a heck lot of AT defenses everywhere in your base, forcing you to spend much more than tyrant spammers just to stand a chance...
Also, they are totally invulnerable underground... At least make it so that walls can stop underground units, or something like that.

Edited by GuardianGI, 20 January 2017 - 05:50 AM.

[Damfoos]

Fury drones are better in offence than in defence (as mines), because of how much damage they deal to structures. They are cheap and can be transported in Borillos/Halftracks, ram them into enemy base, dig in and jump on his WF (you'll only need 3 drones to kill it) or any other building in a suicide attack. They are good, but not in their intended role.

[Handepsilon]

Personal list from my duels with Nablis :

Siege Cadre : Overused in Campaign, underused everywhere else. I dunno, never managed to make good use of it other than sieging the already assembled bases in missions

Hummingbird : Never had incentive to use it and never saw these flying above me.

Foxtrot : Special case. Overused by Nablis, underused by me. Then again I always go Airfield last as Soviet for some reason.

Conscript : Compared to other equivalent, goes into my personal why-the-hell-should-I-mass-this unit unless it's early game or I feel like garrisoning. At least GIs is good on mowing organic stuff down.

 

Drakuv : Heard that this thing is rarely used while I massed them any chance I get (though requires some money). This thing is powerful enough when combined by Field Bureau technology steals (defeated HQ with Dune Riders and Brutes, as Russian)

Driller APC : Personal overuse, Nablis always fell for it and he said that the driller is quieter than 3.0

Plague Splatter : Underused, because I don't like the concept of artilleries that does shit damage on buildings and totally avoidable by units.

Tyrant : Overused if available, because bursting herd of monster tanks in the middle of your base is always scary. Allied has advantage to avoid it altogether to an extent if they build Gap Generator

Wolfhound : Overused because versatile helicopters that shoots everything down and can take Norio down in few seconds if massed is awesome.

Knightframe : Too powerful, too overused

Buzzard : Nablis likes to use this to attack everything, including MBTs and buildings for some reason.

Eureka : Obviously she's just too chaotic, slow (not her boots) AND weak to use. On top of that, her voice is not as lovable as the others

Edited by Handepsilon, 20 January 2017 - 09:55 AM.

[lovalmidas]

Zephyrbot

I just don't see em used often.  Whether the player doesn't have enough Zephyrs or that it's often avoided, I ain't sure.  Underused.

 

Hoping for a damage buff for Zephyr's bombardment so 24 of them can take down a Nuke Silo in one shot as it used to be in Death from Above.

[CLAlstar]

Underused:

 

Epsilon's Vision support power. Just what are the chances that it will reveal anything significant? If you cast it over an area, you probably already have the suspicion that something's about to happen there. 

 

Similarly, the Mind Reader's use is very limited as well, and it's very easy to counter (just don't directly send your units in its range until the last moment). I'm yet to see a game where someone builds it.

 

1. If you are suspicious that something is coming, you can cast it to reveal where they are actually going?

2. Thats why you put more than one mind reader in base.