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[tituspullo]

i have a sugestion about mordor archers, since you have morgul orc and the normal orc archers are just crap maybe you can make morgul archers for a bit more stronger orc ranged units?

so you can also build on a strong orc army without the easterlings and haradrim

and maybe place orc or morgul archers on grond like in the movies

Edited by tituspullo, 04 August 2017 - 07:49 PM.

[sTRiker34]

There is already two archer units in Mordor. Haradrim and Easterling archers. I dont see a reason for another archer unit to be honest.

[saruman_the_wise]

i have a sugestion about mordor archers, since you have morgul orc and the normal orc archers are just crap maybe you can make morgul archers for a bit more stronger orc ranged units?

so you can also build on a strong orc army without the easterlings and haradrim

and maybe place orc or morgul archers on grond like in the movies

 

The last thing Mordor needs is another range unit.

[tituspullo]

okay, thanks for your awnser and opinion

[saruman_the_wise]

okay, thanks for your awnser and opinion

Thanks for your suggestion and active involvement

[maverik99vc]

Wonderful plan! I do have three constructive critiques though:

1. Perhaps Mordor as a faction is best off having wall hubs that can build walls that can be swapped for postern gates, normal gates, arrow towers, catapults, gate watchers, lava cauldron hubs, doom pyres and wall hubs?
2. I noticed in the ModDB image gallery for this mod that the Easterling Kataphrakts are the common Easterling cavalry in this mod... will they be in the Easterling Camp or will there be a stables-type building for them and for any Variag Horseman cavalry? Speaking of which...
3. Maybe Mordor could fare best in the cavalry department by having Easterling Kataphrakts and Variag Horsemen being respectively the Mordor mounted fencers and Mordor mounted archers?

But again, marvelous faction plan! With these three ideas taken into account I think this already fantastic plan can get even better, that's just IMO though.

Really nice, i dont think walls are too over powered for Mordor!!

[Morgul Orc]

I have a suggestion, I really miss having perm 3 fell beast Nazguls.

I understand that would be OP that is why we have the Witch King, but I think having 3 flying nazguls and nerfing the Witch King alone would be better since the Witch King is very tanky and OP alone specially against arrows. there could be 3 perma flying Nazguls just like BFME2. I liked it much better back in the horse lord's mod where you had all 3 flying nazguls.

The tier 15 ability can still work. Maybe summon 1 fellbeast and 2 on horse? Mordor has 9 Nazguls (I assume there will be 2 or 3 nazguls for the haradwith faction based on the books).

[Morgul Orc]

Guys, do you think it's a good idea to change the voice of the easterling pikemen?

Specially since the Easterling archers have the same voice. Why not make the pike have soldiers of rhun voice but keep the archers have the easterling voice.

It will specially be great when the they form up and say what the soldiers of rhun used to say, really nostalgic.

 

Also, do you think perhaps Mordor has too many swordsmen? Orc warriors, Men of khand, Black orcs, Morgul orcs?

[Babalu]

Just wondering if you are thinking of introducing a new Easterling Hero at any stage?

 

I know we already have Khamul but I would love a character similar to Games Workshops character Ambur, Lord of Blades:

 

https://www.games-wo...Lord-of-Blades 

[Evo.]

 

Spellbook

5PP
Crack of Doom

Summons a patch of cracked, volcanic earth. All units inside of it take damage over time. 
Watcher of Morgul

Summons a Watcher of Morgul. Can be placed anywhere on the map. Detects stealthed units. Nearby enemy units lose all leadership. 
Orc Horn
10PP
Barricade
He Is Gathering All Evil To Him

Summons Haradrim Raiders, passively unlocks Easterling Kataphrakts and Easterling Swordsmen
Call the Horde
Slaves of Nurn
15PP
Dungeons of Dol Guldur
Darkness
Wraiths on Wings!
25PP

The Eye of Sauron 

Sauron gazes upon the battlefield. Briefly stuns all enemy units on the map. Enemies caught within the Eye are stunned for longer. Friendly units caught within it are buffed. 
Fires of Orodruin 

Burning rocks and ash pummel the battlefield.

 

I really like the new spells, I had an idea of making an earthquake from mount doom as 4th tier spell but this one sounds better, some might prefer keeping Eye of Sauron in 1st tier because this iconic spell has been in Mordor's 1st tier since bfme1, but I don't think that is an issue here, this way the spell is an excellent reference to the Black Gate clip from Return of the King and portrays Eye of Sauron as much more dangerous and menacing spell than before, although I would suggest to add this:

1- Enemies caught within the Eye loss all leadership

2- Friendly units caught within it are fearless

3- Making the radius of the Eye bigger (as much as "Wrath of Caradhras" for example) but the player can't move the Eye

4- Replacing the voice line of the spell

    Currently its this: https://youtu.be/y4CVxSGPWyo

    I recommend this: https://www.youtube....h?v=G11prumD2pY

    If you find it long then just the part "I see you" is enough, I think it sounds more terrifying with the effects and fitting for the final spell.

[Mathijs]

I can agree that the Eye shouldn’t be moveable, though that takes away from its uniqueness. Maybe slow down the movement instead.

It’ll definitely be bigger.

[Dúnedain76]

The sound bite was already something we were going to change, don't worry.

[Kaieman]

New unit, easterling swordsmen

[Elessar_the_King]

No, Easterlings swordsmen would be redundant compared to the other Mordor's elites units. That role is already taken by Variags of Khand.

[Dharkus]

Is possible that the C.E.O. of Mordor invest on 3 horses like the Morgul Vanguard (picture) and give them

 

to the 3 most important Nazgul? Is not well seen the slaves have better cars than the Bosses....

 

[Emperor of the East]

About the He is Gathering All Evil to Him power that appears to permanently unlock Easterling Kataphrakts and Easterling Swordsmen at the Easterling Temple... I love the idea, it'll make Mordor gameplay a lot more interesting!

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But I am just curious, will that power also unlock Easterling War-wagons like in the Lord of the Rings books? If not, that's okay.

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Anyway, keep up the epic work!

[LeeApolo]

Why the Run are part of the mordor, and Harad is not. The Run has pikemen, archers, cavalry, you can still add chariots and infantry with sabers. Here is a separate faction.
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as written above "Anyway, keep up the epic work!"

[Mathijs]

Rhûn is not a faction because we had no good, unique ideas for them. We did for Harad.

[The_Nazgul]

Suggestion

I think it is obvious how good and effective trolls are at the moment and i'm not complaining about their stats or them being OP.

however because of that bonus cost from slaughter houses you can get them for only 400 and Olog-Hai for only 800! they are so cheap and almost impossible to counter.

Considering almost everyone goes for slaughters instead of armories, i suggest you generally increase the cost of trolls!

On the other hand in order to counter a single troll you need to use your elites! a single troll can easily beat a single battalion of an elite unit and a single Olog-Hai can do the same against two of those,l by sustaining their stats but increasing their price you can make a good balance for them.

 

Mountain Troll - 700 (540 with bonus)

Drummer Troll - 700 (540 with bonus)

Olog-Hai - 1400 (1120 with bonus)

[YE4M4N]

Will the Olog-Hai have the options to be upgraded with better weapons? (i.e. a metal mace or hammer).

Edited by YE4M4N, 19 May 2019 - 11:19 PM.