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[CLAlstar]

Only MBT's

[Nicholas Chau]

Though i don't think this is necessary, but the catastrophe tank's HP should be given a small raise.

[Nablis123]

just a thought I had the other day...

 

how about allowing plague splatterers shoot bloaticks ? I know it's a bit stupid but scorpion cell has no answer to heroes other than disks, and even then... that's not good enough.

 

also when campy factions like china, PF and LB choose to camp, there is nothing to siege them with as plague splatterers don't deal damage enough to kill long range base defenses without the base defenses killing them first.

 

I know it might be broken op, but it's frustrating to have the upper hand sometimes yet feel helpless at the same time

[CLAlstar]

That would be an overkill for infantry. One bloatic already makes big mess from infantry. Now imagine 12 of those flying towards the enemy.

[Nablis123]

then make them shootable like a V3/scud rocket. 

 

or have the damage of it reduced vs inf but buffed vs buildings, I know it's a catapult on treads that shouldn't be able to compete with high tech stuff, but there is 0 use for them.

 

why make them vs inf if you have viruses ? why make them vs tanks when you have speeders ? plagues are just a waste of time and resources since they can only do so little in groups of 6 or more

 

PS : maybe they need to be loaded into the plagues first then launch them

Edited by Nablis123, 25 February 2017 - 11:33 AM.

[Handepsilon]

If so, then something has to be done with Landlocked then

[Child Hater]

What is the meaning of strength? is it damage or health ?

[Destroyencio]

What is the meaning of strength? is it damage or health ?

Health

[Solais]

The bloatick catapult could be its own unit, and maybe it could be more anti-structure, because it seems Scorpion Cell lacks that regards to their artillery.

[CLAlstar]

Tyrants are already insane base killers. I personaly dont think that SC lacks vs structure damage.

[Nablis123]

Tyrants are already insane base killers. I personaly dont think that SC lacks vs structure damage.

what they lack is siege, not damage.

 

and it's not like you can sneak tyrants into a tight campy base that will most likely have dragon flies or godsbanes in them 

[Bernadiroe]

Not everyone can micromanage and control adrenaline like you, Alstar xD (I've seen the video how you played SC)

It works for multiplayer, since most ppl won't build many tight structures in their base and flood their base with idle units and infantries, but in skirmishes against AI it really sucks having melee-range siege unit, with not-so-good armor.

 

I do agree SC needs a long-range siege unit, not close-range siege unit (unless that said unit has really tough armor to compensate the melee range)

 

How about affirming the role of Tyrant and Plague Splatter?

 

Make Tyrant an infantry killer and light-armored tanks harrasser, melee range, medium armor, low damage to structures and heavy-armored tanks.

Make Plague Splatter a structure destroyer (buff its current damage) and infantry killer in-a-pinch (just like any other siege units).

[Solais]

Well, the reason I suggested the idea as a new unit instead of the Plague Splatter because it obviously got its role, and changing it could potentially screw with the campaign.

[Nablis123]

maybe have the plague splaterers as prototype units then :o

[Death_Kitty]

what if not. the change of an arty that does not siege vs a siege with melee range appeals to me. Plague splatters are nice for a few reasons: they are cheap, massable, and make poison clouds. Last one is important. that tight campy base? filled with defensive units? no problem. The gas should kill them eventually, or force them out. If they come out, the can get killed by bikes, while some tyrants hit their base.

[Bernadiroe]

In skirmishes yes you can lure the units out, but only if the barrel actually hits them. They will just pace around from the cloud effect, and will only start attacking when enemy is inside their activation range.

The defense structures are what needs to be shut down, but you can't since in skirmish enemy just endlessly producing things under 5 seconds.

 

In my experience with other sub/factions, you don't need to go bonkers with numbers of arty units to be able to push thru AI base. Fortunately SC still have the good ol' Basilisk which I end up using instead of PS when I want to destroy structures...

 

In multiplayer where players usually won't go very tight, Tyrants seem to be working pretty well as anti-structures, as shown by Alstar. PS being weakly armored, quite slow and below average damage on structures are just...urgh.

[X1Destroy]

IMO, poison are useless vs all tanks and air armies like China and Coronia. The only reason to build PS is playing mirror Epsilon matches and to an extent, against Foehn. And even so, we have Virus who can do better because it doesn't have crap accuracy.

[Tyhednus]

So, the changelog says release date: ??/02/2017. Does this mean we can expect the update in the next two coming days? Or are there first issues to be solved?

[CLAlstar]

IMO, poison are useless vs all tanks and air armies like China and Coronia. The only reason to build PS is playing mirror Epsilon matches and to an extent, against Foehn. And even so, we have Virus who can do better because it doesn't have crap accuracy.

 

You underestimate poison. Its annoying to have something that slowly chips health of your units. Maybe its not much of damage but still damage.