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[pikachu11]

What is the WSA?

[Solais]

World Socialist Alliance.

 

As for Yunru, the Chinese military/government was holding her parents hostage. She got every reason to go against them.

[Sven Co. Op]

I'm throwing my hat into the ring again. I've been having a thought in my head for a while now since the introduction of the Foehn Revolt and it's upcoming origin missions to MO. And being honest, it is a weird one. I remember of how MO follows through with it's own take of what RA2 is about after the events of RA1. And we know that the end of RA1 is the fork in the road between the Red Alert and the Tiberian C&C series (even if it's Westwood's bad implementation of continuity, we still roll with it). 

 

We know that RA1 has two different endings, with the Allied victory meaning the end of Stalin and paving the events of RA2/MO/Tiberian (possible/alternate) Series, while a Soviet victory brings forth the rise of Kane and the Brotherhood of Nod (the non-canonical ending). Regardless, one series has a Kane, while the other one doesn't, leading to two entirely different storylines independent of each other with the same root.

 

Now what I'm thinking, and it might be highly unlikely due to the ambiguous info from the teasers and such, is that the MO universe DOES have Kane, but because Tiberium does not exist, he never rose to power. I also speculate that Yuri might have been another factor in this, but I don't know how to make that connection. Now if you're still following me on this, then good. Kane, being disillusioned since Tiberium never came/existed, went into obscurity. But as Yuri made his move for power, Kane would then help set the events leading up to the formation, and eventually leading the Foehn Revolt. Instead of fighting for humanity's evolution to Tiberium, he now leads a revolution against what is possibly the biggest threat to humanity, the removal of freedom and free thought.

 

Now this is a really big stretch, and essentially just my theory on how the Foehn came to be. Personally I feel that Yunru is still the one calling the shots here after seeing all of the other posts before this one, but they really don't address on all of the missing links that would make up the Foehn Revolt in the end, just the bits and pieces we get with the current teasers. What do you guys think?

[Flandre]

World Socialist Alliance.

 

As for Yunru, the Chinese military/government was holding her parents hostage. She got every reason to go against them.

 

Kinda funny after hearing her "last words" in Thread of Dread makes me wonder that the Chinese understood now that Yuri was responsible for whatever shenanigans their country led into. 

 

 

To a point, I do wonder who else are the founding members of the Foenh too.

[Nevermore2790]

In the Ares announcement, I just saw Yunru in a Foehn color scheme. Her suit is darker and blackish unlike her standard appearance.

 

Yup, you will be Proto-Foehn.. Mostly China in the Origins.

 

P.S. No wonder why we never get to control China fully on a Single Player Mission.

[Tathmesh]

Nano-sync Yunru when?

[Flandre]

I do wonder if there will other "founding" members *coughs*

[doctormedic]

I wonder how yunru even forms foehn in the first place.

[Handepsilon]

With the help of Kanegawa Industries and Scorpion Cell apparently

Edited by Handepsilon, 28 December 2017 - 12:18 AM.

[CaptainNemo]

Sooooo, noone's gonna talk about the " Orbital Strike " ability of the Quetzal ? Surely that Orbital Satellite didn't come out of nowhere. Maybe the Foehn acquires some in Tainted Empire, given the presence of the Allied bases ?

Vision of the Distant Future will most likely be about the Concious Slumber, just guessing.

Given Nobody Home takes place in Kashmir, and Speeder confirmed that the line " You will never take my home " was spoken by Yunru, maybe Yunru is trying to develop more tech there, and fending off any unwanted visit from China ? The teaser image shows a China base, but without the signature teal Foehn-esque color might be because they are the enemy ?

Edited by CaptainNemo, 24 January 2018 - 05:07 PM.

[UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR]

Sooooo, noone's gonna talk about the " Orbital Strike " ability of the Quetzal ? Surely that Orbital Satellite didn't come out of nowhere. Maybe the Foehn acquires some in Tainted Empire, given the presence of the Allied bases ?

 
Hm.
 
Just a note: I would think that Yuri would try to interdict anything orbital, considering that he is building up on the moon and clearly has space capabilities.

Could it be something aboard the Coronia? Like a high powered Boidmachine, that can shoot across entire continents?

[Wayward Winds]

 

 

Sooooo, noone's gonna talk about the " Orbital Strike " ability of the Quetzal ? Surely that Orbital Satellite didn't come out of nowhere. Maybe the Foehn acquires some in Tainted Empire, given the presence of the Allied bases ?

 
Hm.
 
Just a note: I would think that Yuri would try to interdict anything orbital, considering that he is building up on the moon and clearly has space capabilities.

Could it be something aboard the Coronia? Like a high powered Boidmachine, that can shoot across entire continents?

 

 

Come to think of it, we don't actually know what altitude the Coronia sits at.  Low orbital could be a possibility, right?

 

As for Yuri's space forces, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the Soviets utterly wreck the moonbase while they're up there, and he just doesn't see the point in setting up a replacement.  Why would he need to when the Mental Omega (assuming it's the cause of his ultimate victory) is activated shortly after?

And could Yuri can even find the theoretical orbital weapons platforms?  There's a lot of empty space up there, and if the platforms are properly camouflaged to minimise the possibility of someone catching a tell tale reflective glint/properly scattering radar return waves, he'll have a heck of a lot of trouble spotting one if he doesn't know where he needs to be looking.  His fancy mind tricks won't help him either if they're automated.

 

...I'm also wondering the moonbase was ever supposed to be a proper, permanent military stronghold at all.  Even if Yuri did control most of orbital space, shifting troops up and down would take a lot of effort.  So perhaps it was more intended as a research and training facility... somewhere to train and develop Libra in relative safety (for her, and for Epsilon - imagine if she snapped.  At least she'd only take out one remote base).  By the time the Soviets turn up, the moonbase's purpose could be already complete and they've mostly wasted the time and resources needed to make the trip.

Edited by Wayward Winds, 24 January 2018 - 09:35 PM.

[CaptainNemo]

The projectiles come from multiple directions, suggesting multiple Orbital Satellite out there, so it's unlikely that they come from Coronia.

Also, mark the target for a precision orbital strike, that sounds pretty familiar to me.

[Handepsilon]

That sounds more like game animation being wonky rather than actual lore stuff

[CaptainNemo]

Should not take game animation seriously it seems 

Anyway, any idea about how PF decided to side with China in Tainted Empire ? Thought they are kinda in a conflict after Norio defected their alliance.

[Solais]

They were never really "allied", but more like "subjugated" by China. At least, the Japan part of PF.

[CaptainNemo]

Then there must be a reason for this strange alliance, right ? They seem to defending the Kanegawa Industry HQ, which was abandoned after " The Gardener " if I recall correctly.

[Handepsilon]

Norio is part of PF disagreeing with the other part of PF who allied with China.

If anything you should probably refer to Singularity

[mrvecz]

I'm throwing my hat into the ring again. I've been having a thought in my head for a while now since the introduction of the Foehn Revolt and it's upcoming origin missions to MO. And being honest, it is a weird one. I remember of how MO follows through with it's own take of what RA2 is about after the events of RA1. And we know that the end of RA1 is the fork in the road between the Red Alert and the Tiberian C&C series (even if it's Westwood's bad implementation of continuity, we still roll with it). 

 

We know that RA1 has two different endings, with the Allied victory meaning the end of Stalin and paving the events of RA2/MO/Tiberian (possible/alternate) Series, while a Soviet victory brings forth the rise of Kane and the Brotherhood of Nod (the non-canonical ending). Regardless, one series has a Kane, while the other one doesn't, leading to two entirely different storylines independent of each other with the same root.

 

Now what I'm thinking, and it might be highly unlikely due to the ambiguous info from the teasers and such, is that the MO universe DOES have Kane, but because Tiberium does not exist, he never rose to power. I also speculate that Yuri might have been another factor in this, but I don't know how to make that connection. Now if you're still following me on this, then good. Kane, being disillusioned since Tiberium never came/existed, 

 

This theory is abit far fetched, but it has some basis, Kane does exist, but Tiberium has yet to arrive on Earth (1995) 

That also means, Scrin forces exist too. But probably, due to Foehn's and Epsilons existence, the seeding of Earth might be a waste of resources since these two factions would be able to eradicate it before its too late.

Unless they both destroy each other in the end of Foehn's campaign. Then only the weakened world would wait for a meteorite filled with Tiberium.

Cycle would continue, GDI and NOD, NOD harnessing the remains of Epsilons tech and GDI using Foehn's tech.