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#781 HeartbreakOne

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 05:10 AM

Just dont change the Skin of the King Raptor! It looks good as it is. and dont change name please i like the name.

Form the King Stealth (airforce gen) Its got a bad skin and it shoots its four missiles so slow. It needs to sweeps to fire em all.
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 11:50 AM

I don't think the Raptor needs to be any weaker against ground targets, if anything the power should be upped against everything. It would be a shame to let something as cool-looking as the Raptor become useless because I very rarely actually have to deal with aircraft even on the hard setting. Sure, sometimes the Air Gen sends in his own aircraft, but all I need is a couple of Avengers, and Raptors don't seem to be the best air defense.
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 05:42 PM

Agreed. The only real time I use the Raptors is during the following strategy I play in most games:

Typically. I build 1 or 2 airbases (depending on the size of the map) for Aurora bombers. Then I build 1 additional airbase for my "Alert 5 aircraft" [ok just 4]. This Combat Air Patrol (CAP) squadon is made up of 2 normal Raptors, and 2 JDAM upgraded Raptors. I put this force flying by themselves somewhere over my base and use them for emergencies, or to take potshots at stray Overlord tanks that are not surrounded at the time by 100 Gatling tanks. :ohmy:

But typically, for base AA defense I use the Avengers, and not the Raptors. The Raptors are used as a nine-one-one strikeforce only.
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 07:37 PM

i like the raptors as they are i use them with JDAMS on attack and a few on defence, the AFG wud be awsome if he used all his nu stuff that wud be kinda kool, if you made the raptor abit stronger against air onli it would increase the point of having them, and onother note sorry for being off topic but some sort of misslie upgrade for AFG or SWG i think is needed becuz they travel soooooo slow, it could make them go faster, hit infantry on da move and not affected by LPD or ECM weapons>...........???????? it would be for patriots and comanches plus tow and planes. :ohmy:

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 07:49 PM

me i will build like 1 to 6 air fields if the map is big enough and i make like half of my raptors will have missles the other half will have the JDAMS upgrade witch is usalley 8 raptors in all and some auroras and i don't try to get tech buildings unless there like right in my base or i'm playing an AOD map then i'll try to get as much money as i possabley can and build defences like crazy and units to GOTA STOP THE COMP AT ALL COSTS!! :ohmy: .
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 07:57 PM

i have an idea. Make 2 or 3 kinds of armament for the Raptor. No Vulcan(cannon). Maybe the Jdam and EMP Missiles. or cluster missiles.

And make it like the switch armament format like the F23.
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 08:00 PM

no casue the f-23 is very buggy with 2 weapons casue when it fires its ammo it dosent return to base and floats around wating to get shot down
if you so the same with the raptor it will do the same
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Posted 08 April 2006 - 02:27 AM

the only changes i would do to aircraft would be to add speed and strength to the raptor, also lower the amount of damage that bomb type weapons hit for, but only for aircraft.
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Posted 08 April 2006 - 07:29 AM

A bridge unit does exist in real life. It basically is a tank with out a gun that has a big folding bridge on the roof.

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 11:00 AM

maybe just upgrade the speed for like 2-3k and after u upgrade them , wen a raptor goese for an attack it would make white jet stream for added bonus > and an armour upgrade like the mig armour just for US planes.

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 02:27 PM

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 04:43 PM

aero armor is wat the USA upgrade can be called to make the raptor and other USA aircarft can have to up there defence :blush: .

A bridge unit does exist in real life. It basically is a tank with out a gun that has a big folding bridge on the roof.

squido is right there is a bridge unit a saw it on discovery channel it has no weapons on it so it needs to be protected when deploying it's bridge so it's mainly just a tank with a folding bridge on it and like i said no weapons.
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Posted 08 April 2006 - 06:18 PM

about USA aircraft upgrade...
USA's can chaff enemy missile and what happened if afterburner and aero armor together?
maybe USA aircraft it's hard to shoot down even gattling cannon?

I prefered can upgrade only once per match
or only AF could have both?

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 08:09 PM

I would say have only Air Force gen with the upgrades, everyone else's upgrades focus on their specialties.

Also, keep in mind we don't have room for many more upgrades.
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Posted 09 April 2006 - 12:42 AM

That's true u can only have 5 upgrades on all units so u would have to replace them if u wanted to add more upgrades to a unit :lol: .

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Posted 09 April 2006 - 01:36 PM

I really do not quite understand what all the trouble is about. Really, can't Vanguard just tweak the attack and defense setting for the Raptors or is it not that simple? Just curious because this has been an issue for so long and the Raptors need to retake their rightful title of premier aircraft currently in service.
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Posted 09 April 2006 - 03:15 PM

True, but there's balance issues. If you're USA the first plane you get has a bomb upgrade, and can dominate aircraft. We would need a way for it to be less overpowering.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 05:01 PM

The truth about raptors is that there missles r really to attack other aircraft and the JDAMs bomb is the only way for a raptor to attack ground units but EA didn't do it like that they put the missles of the raptor to attack ground and air units witch is wat the raptor can't do in real life so i guess u get my point if this reply.
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Posted 11 April 2006 - 09:17 PM

I addressed this in my first ever time in these forums. Vanguard did what he could. I think that he should up the damage versus planes, but he hasn't.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 05:32 AM

He did a significant change to the F-23 in the alpha test version of 8.0 though. I wont give out any details. But it's and interesting change. So look for this change on the horizon.
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