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Posted 06 July 2006 - 07:45 PM

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looks like the v3 luncher form ra2
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Posted 07 July 2006 - 09:11 PM

MIG-25 "Foxbat"

Meet the fastest fighter aircraft in the world it can keep up and take down an sr-71 you could put it in china air force but if you change your mind it can be gla aircraft you can buy from black maket.

Aditional specs: uses 2 twin tumansky r-15 eingines with turbos wich frovide 25,000 lbs of trust each 50,000 lbs each in afterburn.

In short it can win just about any dogfight max speed in afterburn is mach 3.9 0.1 higher than the sr-71 but it can only keep that speed for 5 or 6 minutes max.

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Posted 07 July 2006 - 11:09 PM

No offense, but, eaver heard of commas?
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Posted 08 July 2006 - 01:35 AM

some ppl can get their ideas across perfectly even without the use of commas
I like the foxbat idea, how bout making it an anti aurora defense? It can be the only thing that can stop an aurora mid-flight (en route to target)
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Posted 08 July 2006 - 01:55 PM

The idea is good, but in game the aurora travels so fast that it is almost impossibble to order a attack on it.
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Posted 08 July 2006 - 02:00 PM

Thats why there is the air defend button my son. :p

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 03:07 PM

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 06:52 PM

I know but it is somewhat small for this purpose. If in is enlarged then it might do the job but would the fighter have enought time to react even then?
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Posted 08 July 2006 - 07:18 PM

It chases targets when they go tru the spot remember and to catch up to it just make it faster than the aurora. It goes supersonic the mig goes hypersonic. Me watches mig take out a squadron of auroras :p .


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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:35 AM

i was not aware of a mig that could go well over mach 3.0 into mach 4.0

reminds me of the movie: Stealth; you know the one: the one with the worlds most advanced plane gone wrong
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 01:36 PM

i was not aware of a mig that could go well over mach 3.0 into mach 4.0

reminds me of the movie: Stealth; you know the one: the one with the worlds most advanced plane gone wrong


lol classic machine go aginast the whole of the human race
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how bou8t u could build a little building like a constuction yard nad auto comes with dozer then that building will turn into a new ai side which will help u beat the enamy

of corse it will have the most adavnced milatry tech ever like hover tanks hoverdynes etc etc etc
and it has a 10% of turning on u and start attacking u

wonder if this would be possible in the sage engine
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 06:36 PM

i was not aware of a mig that could go well over mach 3.0 into mach 4.0

reminds me of the movie: Stealth; you know the one: the one with the worlds most advanced plane gone wrong


I said mach 3.9 the aurora only goes 2.0

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Posted 21 July 2006 - 08:39 PM

i'm sure auroras go faster than mach 2.0 since i think a mach is somewhere between 620 to 740 mph
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Posted 21 July 2006 - 10:37 PM

MIG-25 "Foxbat"

Meet the fastest fighter aircraft in the world it can keep up and take down an sr-71 you could put it in china air force but if you change your mind it can be gla aircraft you can buy from black maket.

Aditional specs: uses 2 twin tumansky r-15 eingines with turbos wich frovide 25,000 lbs of trust each 50,000 lbs each in afterburn.

In short it can win just about any dogfight max speed in afterburn is mach 3.9 0.1 higher than the sr-71 but it can only keep that speed for 5 or 6 minutes max.



Um... the MIG 25 has a top speed of mach 2.83 as wells as the MIG 31 foxbat ... still the fastest of all aircraft (and the 31 scoffs at ECM) but still no where near the mach 3 claimed and certainly not mach 4 (mach four would be like the aurora the real one or the early american X-15). The thrust of the Mig 25 is only half of what you said, using after burners it gets only 22,000 Lbs of thrust. The acclaimed SR-71 has a top speed of only 3.3+ (meaning it goes alot faster than the government says it can... probably). still the foxbat and the foxhound remain the fastest inducted millitary aircraft. NOT the best but great for blasting away unwanted pests in the skies. Although I find it strange that the fastest aircraft in this game originally only goes Mach 2... the average speed of todays fighters.

Which brings me to my crazy Idea a realistic battle engine Like say a Tank round will kill a soldier and depending on which tank its hitting a single tank round will killl another tank.

Other damage changes:

Infantry are no longer a threat to armor unless they have grenades or RPGs

Aircraft Bombs do more damage to buildings while missiles do less

Infantry die by being hit ONCE by anything

vehicles that are not destroyed by a hit are slowed down or are immobile

AND in "general" make it more like real warfare.

New units:

X-15! Mach 6!

HIND 24

Sukoi SU37 and SU47 (bueaties of the sky)

Stealth for the raptor please that is why it can win against the faster and more agile SU-37

Towable artilitry with greater visual range

the T34 (somewhat of an Icon now)

MECHS particularly of the front mission kind

in general put more real machines in and void the made up units of the game ... but still FM mechs man

OH! and the japanese as a side.

Japanese type 99 tank (between the leclerc and the abrams. It WAS named the third best tank in the word after the challenger II and the abrams)

Sun toku a sub that is an aircraft carrier.

The fuku a bomber that has SUPER long range

the F-16xl a japanese F-16

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 02:25 PM

Sukoi SU37 and SU47 (bueaties of the sky)

the F-16xl a japanese F-16



the SU-37 "Terminator" and SU-47 "Berkut" have a good chance in real life at taking down a raptor especailly the SU-37 i love that jet.


And the f16xl was the first design of the f16 it had foward swept wings but it was scrapped because of the natural instabilities of that design.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:04 PM


Sukoi SU37 and SU47 (bueaties of the sky)

the F-16xl a japanese F-16



the SU-37 "Terminator" and SU-47 "Berkut" have a good chance in real life at taking down a raptor especailly the SU-37 i love that jet.


And the f16xl was the first design of the f16 it had foward swept wings but it was scrapped because of the natural instabilities of that design.


An F22 against the lastest russian craft would depend on ONE thing: who sees the other first. In a dogfight an F22 would get its ass handed to it after being burned charred and boiled. but the f22 has something the 37 does not have ... cowardly stealth and a weasles B.V.R abillity. But both the 37 and 47 have russias "New" head mounted targeting system, EXCELENT thrust vectoring and great radar... still no fly by wire though... I'm not sure if the experimental platform SU 47(possibly from what i hear it is the next gen russian aircract, Cross your fingers that thing is sweet!) has stealth.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 03:19 PM

but the f22 has something the 37 does not have ... cowardly stealth and a weasles B.V.R abillity.


I'm sorry, but cowardly? Stealth systems are there to keep the pilot(s) from dieing on an important mission, not to hide cowards! :p Stealth is to give one side an advantage, the better stealthed it is, the bigger the advantage. It helps us win battles, not let us hide during a fight! If you live in America, then you should be happy that our planes have stealth! without it, we may not have won the war in Iraq as fast (the one against Hussein), and countless more lives would have been lost. I beleive I've made my point now.
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 09:05 PM

The new mig-2000 wich i dont have pictures is said to be even more hi-tech than the f22 and the berkut is already in use,and both have high levels of stealth comparative to the F117A's systems.

The f22 isint really that fast it just has a supersonic cruise speed if i remember its top speed is around 1,316mph,not as fast as the su-37.

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 05:11 AM

but the f22 has something the 37 does not have ... cowardly stealth and a weasles B.V.R abillity.


I'm sorry, but cowardly? Stealth systems are there to keep the pilot(s) from dieing on an important mission, not to hide cowards! :p Stealth is to give one side an advantage, the better stealthed it is, the bigger the advantage. It helps us win battles, not let us hide during a fight! If you live in America, then you should be happy that our planes have stealth! without it, we may not have won the war in Iraq as fast (the one against Hussein), and countless more lives would have been lost. I beleive I've made my point now.


So you don't call a weapon that can pop up out of nowhere and kill anything without a contest OR ever seeing it's prey, cowardly? Yes I know of it's exploits and how effective it is on that battle feild AND how it ends wars quickly. But the simple fact that you can off someone with out giving them a chance to defend themselves is cowardly and no man should have the right to call himself an ace if he attains his kills in this manner. Yes it takes some degree of skill to fly the F22 and use its systems but it take talent skill intuition and training to stay alive in a dogfight and that my friend is what war is. Soldier on soldier KEEPING THE CIVILLIANS OUT OF IT. With the F22's BVR abillity it is possible (albiet with a small chance) to target a civillian aircraft. the only way to make 100% sure you are not shooting down civillians is to confirm visually.

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Posted 25 July 2006 - 02:30 PM

A quote from Galm 2 in ace combat zero "The only rule in war is to survive" :p

And anyone notice that the superweapon gen has a tank called the mammoth tank i think vanguard stole the name off cnc red alert retaliation wich i hae on my playstation.

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