How about an airfield that's nothing but the runway because the fighter bays are underground?
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Started by link.the.first, Jul 10 2005 05:36 PM
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 05:09 PM
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 05:13 PM
F-22C Raptor. Air Superiority fighter. "Not a pound for air-to ground".
F-35A Joint Strike Fighter. Stealth close air support, armed with missiles and a chain gun for strafing.
UCAV. Multi-role aircraft. (Perhaps if one is shot down, the enemy would get little experience for the kill?)
Aurora. Unchanged, high speed strike aircraft.
B-2A Spirit. Heavy strategic bomber.
B-1B Lancer. Heavy tactical bomber, armed with cluster munitions.
F-117B 'Wild Weasel'. Version of the F-117 designed specifically for attacking anti-air defense.
C-130. Multi-role transport. Armed version, AC-130, used as gunship.
RAH-66 Comanche. Scout helicopter.
UH-60 Black Hawk. Transport Helicopter.
AH-64D Apache. Anti-tank helo. Can relay position to nearby Apaches, a la the patriot.
Sound good?
F-35A Joint Strike Fighter. Stealth close air support, armed with missiles and a chain gun for strafing.
UCAV. Multi-role aircraft. (Perhaps if one is shot down, the enemy would get little experience for the kill?)
Aurora. Unchanged, high speed strike aircraft.
B-2A Spirit. Heavy strategic bomber.
B-1B Lancer. Heavy tactical bomber, armed with cluster munitions.
F-117B 'Wild Weasel'. Version of the F-117 designed specifically for attacking anti-air defense.
C-130. Multi-role transport. Armed version, AC-130, used as gunship.
RAH-66 Comanche. Scout helicopter.
UH-60 Black Hawk. Transport Helicopter.
AH-64D Apache. Anti-tank helo. Can relay position to nearby Apaches, a la the patriot.
Sound good?
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 06:59 PM
How about an airfield that's nothing but the runway because the fighter bays are underground?
It's a nice idea, just too elaborate.
Two purposes for a mini-JSF airfield would be for squeezing in an extra airfield at small sized bases, and for establishing a forward air support base, also in located tight spaces such as urban and mountainous areas.
With the second purpose in mind, I see a small airfield, like the civilian_tech airport but only half it's size, with 2 JSF parked under some cammo netting instead of having hangars. The runway's would be dirt instead of concrete, and there would be non-functional fuel and supply trucks parked everywhere, and a command tent, all to simulate in the field / forward airbase operations. A small dirt landing pad might be included so that helos can have access to a forward repair base. Perhaps one could build Comanches from this base as well.
Perhaps instead of Comanches, the preloaded Special Ops blackhawk could spawn from this new airbase, instead of being bundled with the attack blackhawk like it is right now at the standard airbase. (I'm sorry, but I find building 3 attack blackhawks just to get one special ops blackhawk [or visa-versa] very annoying)
And finally the airfield would be guarded by a GLA type stinger site with 2 to 4 missile defenders garrisoned in the bunker. Providing the forward airbase with a little anti-ground and air protection.
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Posted 01 August 2005 - 07:31 PM
The USA could have a whole line of rapidly assembled cheap buildings built by a faster and lighter version of the Dozer. It can build weaker buildings taht are camoflaged, like your dirt airfield(it can build the JSF hangers under camo netting or flatten out a large enough area for Raptors). These structures do not require power, but to get the whole forward operations look you just have a few builidings together. They are all a lot smaller. These are camoflaged, but they can be destroyed easily and can't build the best vehicles.
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Posted 03 August 2005 - 09:20 PM
Millita air units would kick ass. I messed around with the INI files for a while and managed to get the millitia to build an airfield and a fighter. Im thinking Maby some Cessna's with machine guns or a Cessna Dragonfly! Also there should be some civilian helicopters for the militia. I dont know how you would pull this of but some Private Jets with missiles would be nice! 
Here is a pic of the dragonfly. Isnt it just the perfect Militia Aircraft?
Here is a pic of the dragonfly. Isnt it just the perfect Militia Aircraft?
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 08:20 AM
UH-1 Iroquis 'Huey' for the militia would be practical and quite possible.
The F-4 Phantom II would also be a suitable jet...or any plane relegated to the US Air National Guard today, such as F-16s and older F-15s.
The F-4 Phantom II would also be a suitable jet...or any plane relegated to the US Air National Guard today, such as F-16s and older F-15s.
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Posted 04 August 2005 - 08:22 AM
For China:
Tu-22 'BACKFIRE'. This bomber was designed to kiss American carrier battle groups with a AS-4 Kitchen, a cruise missile equipped with a nuclear warhead. Though its ability to actually sink a carrier is in doubt, surely loss of life would be heavy and air operations would be out of the question (see RED STORM RISING by Tom Clancy). For the Chinese, this would carry an artillery type missile, similar to the American's tomahawk in the game.
Tu-22 'BACKFIRE'. This bomber was designed to kiss American carrier battle groups with a AS-4 Kitchen, a cruise missile equipped with a nuclear warhead. Though its ability to actually sink a carrier is in doubt, surely loss of life would be heavy and air operations would be out of the question (see RED STORM RISING by Tom Clancy). For the Chinese, this would carry an artillery type missile, similar to the American's tomahawk in the game.
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Posted 09 August 2005 - 01:20 AM
The Militia could get a police chopper armed with a machine gun. Also, new building: police station. It is a combo building that can train/build police officers, vehicles(SWAT vans) and helicopters. If the POW idea is implemented, send them here.
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 07:39 PM
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Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:03 PM
The Militia could get a police chopper armed with a machine gun. Also, new building: police station. It is a combo building that can train/build police officers, vehicles(SWAT vans) and helicopters. If the POW idea is implemented, send them here.
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What they could also use is some sort of "Dukes of Hazard" Car that shoots fireworks!
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Man, I just think you guys should replace all the planes except for the F-22. Replace aurora with FB-22, or B-1B just for the sake of it! Also, the F-35 is going to replace the A-10, normal F-18s and f-16's. In the future I belive they'll be the equivalent of tie fighters! So if you could make a cool model with something like 3 way upgrading where you can make it an anti-air, anti-ground, hover version. So basically you build an empty husk and instantly upgrade to one of the versions.
Also I think you should make Air Craft Carriers with F-18 & F-35's on them, I'd be really cool.
Also I think you should make Air Craft Carriers with F-18 & F-35's on them, I'd be really cool.
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 01:31 PM
I'm back, has anyone conquered the world while I was gone?
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 09:01 PM
I like 7nth Panzer's idea for the air force.
The F-22A will be stealth and carry up to 8 single fire AMRAAMs, as we have discussed countless times before, will be able to pick aircraft out of the sky easily.
The JSF is good, carrying four bombs and a heavy gatling.
UCAV is now the start plane and is O.K. against everything.
I think the B-1B should have cruise missiles, not cluster munitions. Around 16 tomahawks with ultra accuracy.
The F-22A will be stealth and carry up to 8 single fire AMRAAMs, as we have discussed countless times before, will be able to pick aircraft out of the sky easily.
The JSF is good, carrying four bombs and a heavy gatling.
UCAV is now the start plane and is O.K. against everything.
I think the B-1B should have cruise missiles, not cluster munitions. Around 16 tomahawks with ultra accuracy.
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Posted 11 August 2005 - 11:49 PM
Welcome back Ace.
The JSF needs 2 Slammers too. The close support variant is VTOL, non-stealth and carries a heavy payload of air-ground missiles. SpecOps variant comes from the original airfield and carries bombs and 2 Slammers. It is also stealth. This would be like the replacement for the F-22 JDAM upgrade.
The F-22A carries two Slammers which can quickly down a fighter, and maybe some long-range missiles that are also stealth but not extremely effective at close range. At long range they can nail anything.
The F-22B is not stealth and carries more Slammers and maybe a rocket pack for quick ground attacks.
Also, all USA bombs should be jet propelled. They don't just let them free-fall much anymore.
The JSF needs 2 Slammers too. The close support variant is VTOL, non-stealth and carries a heavy payload of air-ground missiles. SpecOps variant comes from the original airfield and carries bombs and 2 Slammers. It is also stealth. This would be like the replacement for the F-22 JDAM upgrade.
The F-22A carries two Slammers which can quickly down a fighter, and maybe some long-range missiles that are also stealth but not extremely effective at close range. At long range they can nail anything.
The F-22B is not stealth and carries more Slammers and maybe a rocket pack for quick ground attacks.
Also, all USA bombs should be jet propelled. They don't just let them free-fall much anymore.
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The FB-22 would be stealth.
The JSF would probably not carry AIM-120s, but likely AIM-9Xs for self defense, I think. They weigh less than an AIM-120.
The JSF would probably not carry AIM-120s, but likely AIM-9Xs for self defense, I think. They weigh less than an AIM-120.
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Posted 12 August 2005 - 01:17 PM
I wonder why we need an FB-22 when we have the JSF and the JDAM upgrade.
The JSF would definately carry AIM-9Xs.
F-22A carries 8 Slammers; which kill in medium-to-short ranges
Revolutionary Idea: Remove the JDAM upgrade, and replace it with the Air Devastation Upgrade. Adds 8 heavy long range missiles that will destroy any aircraft in a radius about the size of a Helix napalm bomb. all aircraft caught in the blast are vaporized by the Particle Pulse warhead (think 360 degree particle beam).
The JSF would definately carry AIM-9Xs.
F-22A carries 8 Slammers; which kill in medium-to-short ranges
Revolutionary Idea: Remove the JDAM upgrade, and replace it with the Air Devastation Upgrade. Adds 8 heavy long range missiles that will destroy any aircraft in a radius about the size of a Helix napalm bomb. all aircraft caught in the blast are vaporized by the Particle Pulse warhead (think 360 degree particle beam).
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The FB-22 would fill the role of a heavy, 'strategic' bomber, for use against buildings. A pair of them should be able to take out a power plant in a single pass.
Cool idea about the air-denial weapon....an alternative would be a missile that deploys thousands of card-deck sized objects that have a nasty habit of moving into jet intakes and tearing up the engines.
Anyone know if the ALRAAM is indigenous to the US or is this a European only weapon?
Cool idea about the air-denial weapon....an alternative would be a missile that deploys thousands of card-deck sized objects that have a nasty habit of moving into jet intakes and tearing up the engines.
Anyone know if the ALRAAM is indigenous to the US or is this a European only weapon?
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Posted 12 August 2005 - 09:23 PM
I thought you said the B-2 was to be the strategic bomber.
I like the shotgun idea.
I don't think that it is even in the drawing boards yet.
If you mean AMRAAM, it is U.S.-designed, but sells it to other countries.
If you mean ASRAAM, it is Europe only, U.S. wants it's own
I like the shotgun idea.
I don't think that it is even in the drawing boards yet.
If you mean AMRAAM, it is U.S.-designed, but sells it to other countries.
If you mean ASRAAM, it is Europe only, U.S. wants it's own
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 01:56 AM
The F-22 could be the SpecOps plane with the ability to quickly fly in, kill aircraft or vehicles depending on how it's equipped, and fly out.
The F-35 could be more of a support plane with emphasis on tank-killer missiles with a few air-air missiles and more ammo. The VTOL variant carries dual rocket pods for heavy ground pounding.
The FB-22 is still capable of air-air combat to a point, so it carries two Sidewinders(the Slammer is a longer ranged missile). It has lots and los of bombs.
Has anyone seen Stealth? I would like to see something like EDI and/or the Talons in the game as multi-role fighter/bombers.
The B-2 still works as the king heavy bomber, but I would like to see something a bit newer.
Also, the robot plane from Stealth was generally the design I was thinking of for the Nanofighter supersonic mode.
The F-35 could be more of a support plane with emphasis on tank-killer missiles with a few air-air missiles and more ammo. The VTOL variant carries dual rocket pods for heavy ground pounding.
The FB-22 is still capable of air-air combat to a point, so it carries two Sidewinders(the Slammer is a longer ranged missile). It has lots and los of bombs.
Has anyone seen Stealth? I would like to see something like EDI and/or the Talons in the game as multi-role fighter/bombers.
The B-2 still works as the king heavy bomber, but I would like to see something a bit newer.
Also, the robot plane from Stealth was generally the design I was thinking of for the Nanofighter supersonic mode.
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Aye, sorry Ace22. Let me differentiate between the two.
B-2A. Would cost an assload, and be equipped with freefall bombs for carpet bombing of strategic (base) targets. Two or three of these would be able to decimate a base on a single run. However, they are very expensive, probably $5000 or more a piece. Therefore, they would not be risked on low-key targets or VERY heavily defended targets until the area has been sufficiently sanitized.
FB-22. Also strategic (buildings, not units) bomber, but its weapons load are JDAMs, so it would not have a wide effect area. They would be faster than the B-2A, and very much cheaper, probably not too much more than a standard F-22. They would probably have AIM-9s, but I doubt the US would have them actively seek out air targets. Their F-22 escorts would do quite well at that, if escorts were deemed necessary.
I doubt the wisdom in giving dedicated bombers and attack aircraft air to air missiles like the AMRAAM. If I was in a JSF, tasked for dirtpounding, and I had a shiny new AMRAAM under my wing and saw a nice, juicy high performance MiG-35 in my sights, I may just ignore my primary mission and try to chalk up an AA kill. :/ AIM-9s for self defense against helicopters, yeah, but not AMRAAMs. I think they are pretty heavy, aren't they?
The AMRAAM is US, I know, but there also exists an Advanced Long Range Air to Air Missile, probably comparable to the AIM-54 Phoenix. However, with upgrading the AMRAAMs, such a missile may not be necessary....unless you wanted to swat down incoming bombers....
And if you wanted to give Militia an airforce, I think the F-4 Phantom II and the F-16C would be your best bet. They are everywhere these days.
And, link, how was Stealth? As horrid as I heard?
Aye, sorry Ace22. Let me differentiate between the two.
B-2A. Would cost an assload, and be equipped with freefall bombs for carpet bombing of strategic (base) targets. Two or three of these would be able to decimate a base on a single run. However, they are very expensive, probably $5000 or more a piece. Therefore, they would not be risked on low-key targets or VERY heavily defended targets until the area has been sufficiently sanitized.
FB-22. Also strategic (buildings, not units) bomber, but its weapons load are JDAMs, so it would not have a wide effect area. They would be faster than the B-2A, and very much cheaper, probably not too much more than a standard F-22. They would probably have AIM-9s, but I doubt the US would have them actively seek out air targets. Their F-22 escorts would do quite well at that, if escorts were deemed necessary.
I doubt the wisdom in giving dedicated bombers and attack aircraft air to air missiles like the AMRAAM. If I was in a JSF, tasked for dirtpounding, and I had a shiny new AMRAAM under my wing and saw a nice, juicy high performance MiG-35 in my sights, I may just ignore my primary mission and try to chalk up an AA kill. :/ AIM-9s for self defense against helicopters, yeah, but not AMRAAMs. I think they are pretty heavy, aren't they?
The AMRAAM is US, I know, but there also exists an Advanced Long Range Air to Air Missile, probably comparable to the AIM-54 Phoenix. However, with upgrading the AMRAAMs, such a missile may not be necessary....unless you wanted to swat down incoming bombers....
And if you wanted to give Militia an airforce, I think the F-4 Phantom II and the F-16C would be your best bet. They are everywhere these days.
And, link, how was Stealth? As horrid as I heard?
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