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#441 Tom

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 07:30 PM

Who are you to say what it should and shouldn't be. Even I don't go so far as to saying what people should do with themselves, I'm just personally baffled that so many people can entertain the idea, and I like to shed light on some Christian fallacies about how the world works.

Same as you are to also explain how religion shouldn't be.

I'm just stating from experience. When people bunch together because of religious or any belief, if its not to persue more knowledge, then its usually to conquer others.

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:24 PM

Y'know what, you're right. We shouldn't question a 4,000 year old text written by a bunch of storytellers. No, we shouldn't question anything. In fact, we should shoot anyone who asks questions, because if god wanted the questions answered, he would.
Imagine a world where people didn't believe in some ridiculous deity.

I'm going to continue being an atheist. Isn't it enough to look at this beautiful garden in front of you without believing that there are fairies at the bottom?
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:34 PM

i've never liked the binary choices of religion and atheism, but atheists are most of the time the ones with the common sense in a modern world. to believe in old texts written in a different time for a different purpose is not something i can believe in.

i like the eastern religions much more, theres not all that political mud mixed into the blend there. its a philosophy of ethics, not a philosophy of both politics and moral and dogma.

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:40 PM

Are good deeds are like dirty rags to God.

If he can make a spelling mistake like that in the bible, I DON'T want to trust him XD

I now have an open mind to what people believe... without actually believing anything myself. I just want a peaceful life and religion just hinders that. I trust in my family and friends, those who are there for me and not some fictional character. However i wouldn't dream on forcing my views onto others, i do what what i do and not for soemone elses amusements, but if someone starts to tell me (and others with similar views) that we're wrong then i will speak up... like now ;)
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:41 PM

Imagine I began telling people that there was a teapot in orbit around the sun. Such a thing would be ridiculous to most people today, but imagine it's a primitive culture four thousand years ago. There is a teapot, hurtling around the sun at 4,000 km/s, and thus we could never observe such a tiny object moving so quickly. I tell thirty villages, in one village the myth catches on, and books are written about the teapot, temples are built to the teapot, people dedicate themselves to studying the scriptures about the teapot. Now we know the teapot is not there, but if you attempt to tell one of the believers this, they will be absolutely revolted by your words. Since we cannot disprove the existence of the teapot, for our data collection cannot map everything around the sun simultaneously, we cannot strictly rule out the existence of the teapot. We should really all be teapot agnosticists, but we are really practicing teapot atheists, since, afterall, the chances of such a thing existing are absolutely next to nothing.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 08:57 PM

Another prime example, and something that did happen, would be the whole "The World is Flat" issue back in the 16th century. We know that is false now so like Spencer said... that could be the same with God.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:06 PM

Well, I know that I'm a sinner, and that hell isn't a nice place to go to, but I am sure that God exists. I;m not sure about you guys, but I'll play on the safe side...and not poke at him...or at least not try to.

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 09:24 PM

Yes because that makes just much more sense. Even though there's no evidence supporting it, you're going to cower in fear because there's a possibility of perhaps there being something you don't understand.
And people say religion is so forgiving and nice. It's already got one person cowering in fear, and another pulling his self-righteous sermon save your soul televangelist crap.
Really, I can just stop arguing now...
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 11:48 PM

I'm not cowering in fear. Your just jealous because I'm awesome and you're not.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 04:13 AM

I think we've gotten up to a point where this discussion is a bit pointless.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 05:59 AM

It's degenerated into brainwashed idiots hurling abuse at everyone and MSpencer ripping apart their fallacious beliefs again and again...
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 10:41 AM

Very tired of the personal attacks really. Last time I warned someone I was warned in turn...

It's been completely ruined by the idiots who just come out of the woodwork and say "I'm better than you". The ones who really believe that Christianity is the only reason why humanity isn't running around raping and murdering each other. Coincidentally, they're pretty much all Americans.

For this morality crap, would recommend these:
http://www.abc.net.a.../sound/dom1.ram
http://www.abc.net.a.../sound/dom2.ram
http://www.abc.net.a.../sound/dom3.ram
http://www.abc.net.a.../sound/dom4.ram
They're all put on by ABC radio in Australia and they're generally about the descent, or evolution, of the modern human. I know the cowering, self-loathing super-crusader Christians won't be listening to them, but of course, the rest of us can enjoy them because we can later discuss them only to have our peaceful discussions broken up by another slur of insults from the people who don't understand the big words.

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#453 Athena

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 12:04 PM

What I actually ment was, why not let this topic rest in peace.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 12:49 PM

@MSpencer

I'm not clicking those links.

Anyways, he's right. This topic is....dead I guess.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:37 PM

Like a vampire in the shadow of a churchtower, he shuns quickly away from knowledge that actually could turn him into a person that actually has respect and wisdom on how the universe works.



but yeah, this thread is pretty much dead, but the problem is that if it goes away, there will be a new one.
So let this be the lightning-rod of religious people, so we can keep them out of more interesting topics.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 08:45 PM

@MSpencer

I'm not clicking those links.

Anyways, he's right. This topic is....dead I guess.


I know you're not clicking those links. It's because you're ignorant and unlike most people, have no wish to change that, because that might mean facing the truth, snapping out of your little fantasy world, and seeing that I'm right.
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Posted 12 October 2006 - 08:50 PM

Can we cut it out please? It's already been said. Gets kinda tiring and old.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 08:52 PM

I dont think this topic should be stopped or closed. People have a right to argue all they want.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 09:30 PM

Well, MSpencer, mabye you're right. I don't want to click those links. I don't need to either. Go ahead, call me a coward and stuff, but I know I'm right.

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Posted 12 October 2006 - 09:57 PM

How do you use .ram videos?




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