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#621 MorgoththeMight

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 02:04 PM

dude.. tomorrow is yesterday :p anyways.. maybe I'll try building knights only once too, and see how it looks :crazed:

#622 Taralom

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:14 PM

i know,

i was too lazy to do it.
but here it is then

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:51 PM

Two Elven factions have powerful "Eilte units" for Noldorin Swordsmen and Guardians of the Silver Tree.
But Rohan, Gondor, Mordor and Isengard have not "Eilte units". You can look:

Gondor
Eilte units: Knight of Dol Amroth

Mordor
Eilte units: Morgul orcs

Rohan
Eilte units: Mounted royal guard

Isengard:
Eilte units: Uruk scouts

You will have? :p

#624 Elvenlord

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 07:07 PM

Gondor- Citidel Guards
Rohan-Mounted royal guards
Mordor-OMG! I forgot....I think it is uruks though, not sure
Isen- Not sure if Cel ever decided..... Not uruk scouts though, he ruled that out

Read through the rest of the topic, you will find them eventully

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 08:17 PM

so there ARE going to be Mounted Royal Guards...hrmm.... :p

Oh ya...the Mordor elite units will be Black Uruks...(i think)
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#626 Elvenlord

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 08:42 PM

Thought so..... I'm too good :p
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Posted 01 April 2007 - 08:55 PM

Mounted Royal Guards:
Command Points: 20 CP
Cost: 1500 resources
low speed and powerful

you think?

#628 Celeglin

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 09:08 PM

Mounted Royal Guards:
Command Points: 20 CP
Cost: 1500 resources
low speed and powerful

Heeeck no. Mounted Royal Guards will be the cream of the cavalry crop in the game and will have no major weaknesses. They'll be well rounded elite units.

Anyway, back at my parent's house for about a week, so I'll have internet access. Busy right now, so I don't have time to read posts and make my own, but I have something for you: Guardians of the Silver Tree for the Rhovanion faction. For the record, he'll always have a shield (though I might try it as an upgrade), so ignore the lack-there-of in the one shot. I've also completed concept art for the Greenwood Spears, so I'll get those going when I'm back at my apartment.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 10:08 PM

Two elven factions very powerful.
Rohan that weak. Have NOT elite units. Must have Mounted Royal Guards!!!
please!!!

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 11:18 PM

rohan is getting the royal guard.

and good to see you back cel :p
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Posted 01 April 2007 - 11:45 PM

Me like :p
Yay! Cel is back for a week! adummy tryanny is over for a week :p
j/k adummy :p

adummy edit: How dare you call me a tyrannt. :p

Umm....... Look over there! It's Cel! *Runs*

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#632 Lauri

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 11:53 PM

Guess you always makes it up when you return Cel :p

that's fucking awesome!!! :p Bloody darling, that's great!
I actually prefer the one without the shield :p proably because the shield looks so... big and fat :p

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 12:30 AM

Celeglin's back! Awesome work, as usual. I like the concept of the shield being upgradable.
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 10:02 AM

Sorry! I end talk!

I need Mounted Royal Guards available Stables on Rohan

GOODBYE!!! :p

#635 Celeglin

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 11:39 AM

I need Mounted Royal Guards available Stables on Rohan

Shut up. Please. Do you honestly need one more person telling you that mounted Royal Guards WILL be in TLT?

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 11:53 AM

Omg, double post (sue me).

Thanks for the compliments on the Guardians. For the record, the shield is the same thickness as the other hero shields, so that's pretty standard. That and I love the shield so meh :p .

I was just thinking about Isengard... What if I made a new archer unit that actually uses a bow to replace the current Crossbow unit. I could then take the Crossbowmen and make them elite? Could be a better solution than an Isengard troll unit...

If you dont use one of these then please give Boromir something else....cause when u get him at lvl 3...he has no abilities and his damage is low...so PLEASE give him something new :p

I fixed the low damage, but that knockback is driving me insane. I just restored Aragorn and Boromir's damage to what it used to be (from like... 30 to 60), but left in the splash/knockback respectively. I've found it's not bad at all with Aragorn - and no one's complained about Glorfindel's splash + damage - so I think he's alright. Boromir, on the other hand, is overpowered now. Here are a few solutions:
a) leave it as EA had it in patch 1.03
b) keep damage high and knockback, but lower its effectiveness against heroes
c) keep damage high and remove knockback, but give him a special ability like Gothmog's "Orc Bash"

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 12:40 PM

Option c sounds best IMO.

An Isengard archer unit would be pretty cool, would they be orc or uruk?

New unit looks cool and the shield looks great. One of the main reasons I liked Thranduil was because of his shield, and this looks a similar shape. Good job Cel :p
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 02:48 PM

i must say that i like the one with the shield most.
but when it is an upgrade it is cool.
will you put that concept in other units too?
or only the guardians?

else you must purchase an upgrade first for like 800 and then upgrade the guardians only...
now that i'm typing it, it doesn't seem soo bad actually...

btw, good to have you back cel.
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 10:12 PM

deleted all comments from sauron suggestion after. This is my last warning to you guest. stop spamming or i wont even bother to read what it says before i delete it. you are lucky, im being nicer than cel would in this situation.

you are lucky cel, there were tons of post from that guy before you came back. im doing my best to keep this place clean while you are away. :p

and as long as Boromir is good (which i hope you will try to do :p ) i dont care which option.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:31 AM

Cel has a right-hand man. :p I agree with zimoo about Boromir: option c sounds the best. I personally hated that knock-back, so I just want it out of here. About Isengard, are you saying that the Crossbows will be the Elite Elite unit, or just an elite archer? Because in my opinion it doesn't make sense to have them as the Elite unit, just because it would ruin the theme that you've been building up with the Eilte units of the other factions. But I agree with you, it is a better solution than the Troll. :p For the Elite unit, maybe something that has both melee and ranged, or just melee (keeping with the aforementioned theme), and I'm not refering to the Uruk Scouts again. :p Maybe just call them something simple, e.g. 'Elite Uruk Warriors', and make them part of the Helm's Deep army. That's my opinion on the matter.

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