Not really, Faramir's fragile enough already........
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 01:11 PM
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 05:42 PM
why is Faramir fragile??
i think he's one of the best early-mid game heroes.
i think he's one of the best early-mid game heroes.
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 09:37 PM
why is Faramir fragile??
i think he's one of the best early-mid game heroes.
Because if someone so much as sneezes on him he's dead.
But he is extremely useful..........
Edited by Elvenlord, 26 August 2007 - 09:37 PM.
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 08:22 AM
lol, and quoted for the truth. I was joking with my last comment.why is Faramir fragile??
i think he's one of the best early-mid game heroes.
Because if someone so much as sneezes on him he's dead.
But he is extremely useful..........
Moving on...I'm just curious, what do you guys think about Rhovanion having a different arrow upgrade? Logically, fire arrows would be extremely dengerous to use in forests so Mirkwood and Lothlorien using them doesn't make that much sense. Eriador can keep them, seeing as they're not in as much wood. But something like (just off the top of my head) the Faradol that the RA team came up with would be more suitable. That's my opinion though. What do you guys think?
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 04:53 PM
Faramir? Fragile? Not if you use him the way I do. By that, I mean ambushes. Because those are always fun.
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I'd go with 2d3, 3d6, 1/2d7, 1d10, 14d12, 8d20, 13 quarters, and a groundhog.
I'm not sure if you'll need all that, but if you figured out a system from it, it would be the greatest in the world.
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 07:24 PM
Faramir is a good knight as well, still not as good as ambushing technique though...
when shooting from walls his leadership bonus is great as well, it gives archers the edge that way.
when shooting from walls his leadership bonus is great as well, it gives archers the edge that way.
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 09:46 PM
*Sigh*
Yeah, if you use him in ambushes, of course he's not fragile, he doesn't get hit!
Duh.
But if he gets hit he's dead within seconds......
@Olorin
I think we had that disscussion already. I think we decided to stay with fire arrows.
Besides, what will they use agaist ents? Yeah.........
Yeah, if you use him in ambushes, of course he's not fragile, he doesn't get hit!
Duh.
But if he gets hit he's dead within seconds......
@Olorin
I think we had that disscussion already. I think we decided to stay with fire arrows.
Besides, what will they use agaist ents? Yeah.........
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Posted 27 August 2007 - 11:43 PM
Why would Elves be fighting Ents... 
But, yeah, I would like a different arrow upgrade...not sure what, however.
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But, yeah, I would like a different arrow upgrade...not sure what, however.
Cheers,
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 12:33 AM
........Online? Skirmish? Against Rohan?
I think I proved my point...........
I think I proved my point...........
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 03:34 AM
*Sigh*
Yeah, if you use him in ambushes, of course he's not fragile, he doesn't get hit!
Duh.
But if he gets hit he's dead within seconds......
Well you don't need to get all sarcastic and stuff...
So right. Today's lesson? Don't put Faramir into melee combat.
Edited by Kyrivian, 28 August 2007 - 03:35 AM.
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I'd go with 2d3, 3d6, 1/2d7, 1d10, 14d12, 8d20, 13 quarters, and a groundhog.
I'm not sure if you'll need all that, but if you figured out a system from it, it would be the greatest in the world.
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 06:13 AM
^^ Here here. I keep forgetting: are swords that good against ents?
Yeah, we did discuss that, but I think that was for TEA. Anyway, you've got a good point there. I just want something different rather than just fire arrows all the time, even if they have the off chance of battling ents. And again, they were raised in forests...anyway. I suppose that balance-wise Eriador can have some other upgrade; they have Axes of Harlindon, and I'm just taking a wild guess that they'll probably be good against all things made of wood.I think we had that disscussion already. I think we decided to stay with fire arrows.
Besides, what will they use agaist ents? Yeah.........
I keep forgetting: are swords that good against ents?
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 07:58 AM
i'm hard learning*Sigh*
Yeah, if you use him in ambushes, of course he's not fragile, he doesn't get hit!
Duh.
But if he gets hit he's dead within seconds......
Well you don't need to get all sarcastic and stuff...
So right. Today's lesson? Don't put Faramir into melee combat.
,Faramir doesn't die in seconds in melee combat, just make sure you got healing ready and some reinforcements when it gets out of hand. But against units which are great versus heroes he'd last like 5 seconds....
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Posted 28 August 2007 - 10:29 PM
@Olorin....
They could, but that would mean Cel would have to make a new damage type, and code that into all the armors, not that hard (At least I think it's not.....), but time-consuming........ because no, swords suck vs. ents.........
I'd do it if Cel let me
They could, but that would mean Cel would have to make a new damage type, and code that into all the armors, not that hard (At least I think it's not.....), but time-consuming........ because no, swords suck vs. ents.........
I'd do it if Cel let me
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 01:25 AM
Apology accepted, Elvenlord.
And swords can be effective... especially swords-that-are-on-fire.
And swords can be effective... especially swords-that-are-on-fire.
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I'd go with 2d3, 3d6, 1/2d7, 1d10, 14d12, 8d20, 13 quarters, and a groundhog.
I'm not sure if you'll need all that, but if you figured out a system from it, it would be the greatest in the world.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 07:38 AM
Hehe, Elvish flaming swords...hehehehehe. I've got it! A new arrow upgrade for Rhovanion: axes! God I'm bored.
I've got it! A new arrow upgrade for Rhovanion: axes! God I'm bored.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 11:13 AM
Yeah........ok.......
Olorin, what are you smoking? You probably need to stop.........
How would you fire an axe from a bow anyways!?!!??
Olorin, what are you smoking? You probably need to stop.........
How would you fire an axe from a bow anyways!?!!??
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 11:28 AM
Forget I ever said that...even though it's in writing. Uhm, right, topic - there's gotta be something that damages everything (including tall walking trees of doom) and doesn't harm the wooded surroundings. *suddenly realises that he's contradicting himself* Something that harms walking trees and doesn't harm forests? 
What am I smoking anyways?
Hmm, well let's do a recount here:
-we (or at least I) want something different rather than Fire Arrows for Rhovanion.
-we don't want something utterly retarded like magical Silverthorn arrows that knock units back with no reason as to how.
-we don't want to copy the RA.
-and we want it so that Rhovanion still has a main form of defense against ents - even though there is a low chance that they'll be fighting them - and still not set fires to woodland.
Well then...I'm just curious (again): how does ent vs. ent/hero go? 'Cause Rhovanion can summon ents, and they have a couple of pretty powerful heroes *burns a hole through Galadriel with a stare*. I wonder how Celeglin will react if I ask for ents to be recruitable for Rhovanion. I mean, Rohan can still do it, and they didn't even have much of an affiliation with Fangorn - they feared it if anything. Anyway, didn't the Elves create ents?
Edit: I'm just throwing suggestions out for the sake of it, but maybe the Galadhrim can be like the Axes of Harlindon and damage them more-so than other units. Or Forged Blades can be made to harm ents more than they already do...that is if Celeglin isn't planning on removing them as well, which I sorta hope he will, 'cause those blue and red lightsabers are getting boring as well.
Uhm, right, topic - there's gotta be something that damages everything (including tall walking trees of doom) and doesn't harm the wooded surroundings. *suddenly realises that he's contradicting himself* Something that harms walking trees and doesn't harm forests? What am I smoking anyways? Hmm, well let's do a recount here:
-we (or at least I) want something different rather than Fire Arrows for Rhovanion.
-we don't want something utterly retarded like magical Silverthorn arrows that knock units back with no reason as to how.
-we don't want to copy the RA.
-and we want it so that Rhovanion still has a main form of defense against ents - even though there is a low chance that they'll be fighting them - and still not set fires to woodland.
Well then...I'm just curious (again): how does ent vs. ent/hero go? 'Cause Rhovanion can summon ents, and they have a couple of pretty powerful heroes *burns a hole through Galadriel with a stare*. I wonder how Celeglin will react if I ask for ents to be recruitable for Rhovanion. I mean, Rohan can still do it, and they didn't even have much of an affiliation with Fangorn - they feared it if anything. Anyway, didn't the Elves create ents?
Edit: I'm just throwing suggestions out for the sake of it, but maybe the Galadhrim can be like the Axes of Harlindon and damage them more-so than other units. Or Forged Blades can be made to harm ents more than they already do...that is if Celeglin isn't planning on removing them as well, which I sorta hope he will, 'cause those blue and red lightsabers are getting boring as well.
Edited by Olorin, 30 August 2007 - 07:03 AM.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 11:40 AM
perhaps Rhovanion won't get walls so it can be defeated by Infantry only, if ents will fight them, they can Persuade them to join / leave the battlefield and return to their woods.
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Posted 29 August 2007 - 09:22 PM
I think they're getting the same castle as the current elves.
@Olorin
I think a high level hero might be able to beat a single ent (I think I did it once with Glorf)
Why would Rhovanion have a smaller chance of fighting ents then any other faction?
Elves didn't create ents, but they gave them the ability to talk........ cured them of their "Dumbness"......
@Olorin
I think a high level hero might be able to beat a single ent (I think I did it once with Glorf)
Why would Rhovanion have a smaller chance of fighting ents then any other faction?
Elves didn't create ents, but they gave them the ability to talk........ cured them of their "Dumbness"......
