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#21 Guest_United States of America_*

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 05:46 PM

and you suppose russia or china could match the superiority of USA?? ^_^

WTF! what if the US used all of their Naval Battle Group along with their Aircraft Carriers (18 of them) and Surround China / Russia??how could they survive that? 360 degrees of attack :p . And those Naval Battle Groups don't even have to get close to Russia (or china) to attack them.

This mod is pointless then. you're just making it as if Russia or China could match USA.

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Posted 09 February 2007 - 06:07 PM

Russia or China are able to survive in a conventional war against usa. That is already enough.

Aside of this USA, RF, and PRC represent world's minority of countries, that have real armies. I mean, be honest, 15000 (or even 100000 in some cases) men is not an army, just a militarized police.

Edited by Dexter, 10 February 2007 - 10:34 AM.


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Posted 09 February 2007 - 06:50 PM

Hey guy please register at these forums and make posts without change of the nick
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 06:12 PM

Hey guy please register at these forums and make posts without change of the nick


what's the point of being able to survive a conventional attack? are you just going to defend all the time?
even those terrorists / guerilla warfare could do that :p , they're maybe even better,, ;)

those huge amount of military power are just a bunch of meatshield if they can't attack. You see, china and russia is in the asian continent, they have to use naval to transport their army(land) in order to attack the US. You can't attack well without having a land to start on can you??

China doesn't have an aircraft carrier, neither do Russia.. well russia do have, but c'monn!! admiral kuznetzhov??? it's old, and reaching it's date of retirement. Even if they do use their (russia & china) carriers, it might not even be able to reach USA, since the US has 18 of them guarding both atlantic and the pacific ocean. It's even harder because each of the US carriers are accompanied by at least 2 destroyers, 2 cruisers, 2 subs, and 1 supply ship (doesn't count).

Or they might even just tomahawk you from the US border ;)
game over.

the european union military might be a better match though.
eurofighters, rafales, tornados, grippens, type 45, french destroyers, astute subs, leopard 2 (strongest tank), challenger 2, leclerc, apache, eurocopters, and much more...

that's just about enough to outmatch russia / china.

quantity doesn't decide the outcome of a war, quality does. BUT, quantity do have an effect on a war if they are well equipped.

AND another factor is experience and luck, that's about it. :dry:

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 06:39 PM

Or they might even just tomahawk you from the US border lol.gif


No they can't, this is impossible, check missile's chars.

what's the point of being able to survive a conventional attack? are you just going to defend all the time?


The point is quite clear - to make it obvious for US government that in order to defeat China of Russia it would require to use it's nuclear arsenal, but it will never come to this.

it's old


Not exactly, it's newer than most US carriers.

that's just about enough to outmatch russia / china.


Dream on.

AND another factor is experience and luck, that's about it. rolleyes.gif


Oh yes, exactly! Those factors have like 5 times more impact on every war's outcome than quality. You see, inside of one generation of weapons technological superiority is really scarce, and everything depends on how those weapons are being used.

About attack and defense - quantity does mean. For example, standing on Chinese soil each US soldier would be confronted by 15 enemies. Do you still say this would mean nothing? As for the navy - do not take for account carriers, and Russian navy would have enough power to confront US one, at least for now, while Chinese is going it's way towards this point. 18 carriers... well, there is always a way to get rid of them, i think we will device something.


Alright, here is final word: there will be no countries other than those already in concept.

PS: Register or die :dry:

Edited by Dexter, 10 February 2007 - 07:31 PM.


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Posted 10 February 2007 - 08:33 PM

I think that you should just STFU. They are making an insanely awesome mod and if you want to play as Europe go make a mod yourself. As for the storyline, who the hell cares if it couldn't happen in real life?

It's. a. game. mod.

That means fictional.




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