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[Devon]

If you have bfme1 you can add the voices in for that, there's directions somewhere around here. Heavy armor is being worked on 1 faction at a time

[Funbomb]

I don't really know about the idea, it's not bad nor good. One thing though, Gandalf the Grey shouldn't have eagle. He never rode an eagle when he was gray, he was carried away by Gwaihir (an eagle) to Lothlorien after he the fight with the Balrog. Gandalf the White could get an eagle because he rode one with two other eagles at the end of Return of the King. I think Gandalf the White should more likely get his horse because he rides his horse longer and more times than he rides an eagle.

[Gothmog14]

Gandalf used Gwaihir to escape from Orthanc. At that time he was still Gandalf the Grey. This is why most mods around give him an eagle mount.

Sorry, but I don't like the idea of having them as purchasable upgrades. It's hard enough keeping heroes themselves completely unique and interesting, it would be much harder with new upgrades from the Fortress. Besides, it'd be copying Wars of Arda.

[Funbomb]

Oh yeah...forgot about that.

[Shikari]

Hi, erm, wierd crazy person

Check out this topic http://forums.revora...showtopic=58088 for what is happening with the elves, they are getting quite a few changes made, which will include the lorien subfaction of elves having the galadhrim warriors you mentioned. (Rohan won't loose them, though don't worry) we have something which is a WIP for that, which will be revealed in good time.

As for Aragorn, yeah, some more costume changes would be nice, hopefully we'll be able to get them done in the future.

N.B. He does have 1 costume change atm, which happens when you use the heros of gondor power.

[dojob]

The problem with gameplay (at least on RJ-style maps) is that there isn't enough raiding and harassment imo. In most of the games that I've played on RJ maps, one player/team will take the middle of the map and it draws down to a campfest with only occasional attacks which are all-in offensives. Now, I've seen heroes running around taking buildings and chasing down other heroes that are trying to do similar things, but other than that, there isn't much fighting going on in between the major battles, which (in all honesty) creates some boredom. Maybe I shouldn't play RJ-style maps if I don't like this kind of gameplay, but I love them too much and would prefer to change them.


Here are my suggestions for changing this sort of gameplay:

1: Make it so that farms (and all other factions' equivellants) and lumber mills can only be built around captured buildings (and not around fortresses); this would REALLY encourage map control and would make harassment more viable since you'd no longer have to go to the main enemy base (which currently is where the enemy generally keeps most of his units as he prepares for an all-in attack) to attack those buildings. With resource buildings in more vulnerable positions, more people will feel encouraged to go out of their way to raid them.

2: Nerf the "Gather Resources" upgrades on capturable buildings; Atm, they bring in insane ammounts of cash, making it easy to skim through the tiers and not have to worry about how I spend money. A few ways to nerf that upgrade (you wouldn't have to do both of them) are to:

a. Increase the price of the upgrade to at least 350 resources so that it comes later on when you need to pull in extra cash for elite units and upgrades.

b. Make it so that the building simply makes less resources with this upgrade (15-20 at a time instead of 30, and perhaps increase the intervals between the gaining-of-resources)


If you followed my 1st suggestion (though I'd prefer both ), then there would be much more fighting and action since you could no longer get away with just having one giant mass of units sitting around near your base; you'd have to spread them out to protect your territories or else you would lose territories and be at a severe disadvantage since not only do you have resources in danger, but CP as well. This would mean that securing territory is more important and thus, there would be more fighting as people tried to do so and more fighting=more fun.

By following the second suggestion as well, people would be more careful with their money, leading to more depth and with less money going around, people will fight harder to get money.

Edited by dojob, 25 February 2008 - 10:20 PM.

[Devon]

Woah...both WK's are strong enough already.

And dojob, there's plenty of raiding to be had, just not on some maps...For example, on Fords of Isen (which we usually play) theres really only one main path to the enemy with a couple of side passages that are blocke by trolls, which makes them inconvenient. I also really disagree with farms...let them stay around fortress. Capturable buildings just doesn't make sense to me, and I don't think it would be that fun gameplay-wise either. Capturable buildings are designed to be worth a lot so you put in the resources to get them; normal farms produce 10 less than standard atm. Back to the first point...I don't wanna have to spend every single game protecting my outlying and vulnerable farms from attack throught the duration of play like bfme2...that just makes it not fun imo.

[Dalf32]

like yoda said, both wk's are already strong enough and the expansion is about the wk while he is in the angmar faction, it doesnt affect him in the mordor faction, nor should it.

[Grizzlez]

Now for hobbits. Bilbo is cool, that's why he's in I'm not sure, but either Bilbo or Frodo or all of the hobbits + gollum are going to be ringfinders. You can only find the ring with those units, as it doesn't spawn until they pass over where it is. So, all evil factions will have gollum, and all good factions with have one of the hobbits, I'm not sure which though. Now for powers.

Well I think maybe ringwraiths should be able to find it? I dont like the idea of a load of gollums running around for evil players, maybe you can think of something other than just him for evil.

[Dalf32]

if the ringwraiths could find the ring for evil factions, then you would have to find a hero of equal strength for each of the good factions to find it, otherwise it would get really unbalanced.

imagine you pick up the ring with frodo, and he is killed pretty easily by a couple battallions of archers (perhaps FU). now imagine that the enemy, say mordor, pick up the ring with a ringwraith, you now need to chase down a hero, possibly mounted (horse or fellbeast), and kill him with either half of your army or a couple good heros.
^see what i mean?^

[Funbomb]

Woah...both WK's are strong enough already.

And dojob, there's plenty of raiding to be had, just not on some maps...For example, on Fords of Isen (which we usually play) theres really only one main path to the enemy with a couple of side passages that are blocke by trolls, which makes them inconvenient. I also really disagree with farms...let them stay around fortress. Capturable buildings just doesn't make sense to me, and I don't think it would be that fun gameplay-wise either. Capturable buildings are designed to be worth a lot so you put in the resources to get them; normal farms produce 10 less than standard atm. Back to the first point...I don't wanna have to spend every single game protecting my outlying and vulnerable farms from attack throught the duration of play like bfme2...that just makes it not fun imo.

This is kind of like map control because that makes you want to control the capturable buildings and not lose them to gain more resources and get extra bonuses since the farms don't give too much resources. Also, I agree with Yoda on the protecting farms because you rely on the farms since they can be built in most places then. They could just get some buildings and start to camp to keep getting resources but when you have the capturable buildings you can't build too much near it besides tower, which leads to try to keep the enemy back and try to keep your army near his base to make sure you keep those capturable buildings. With the capturable buildings, you have to make up different strategies based on where are the capturable buildings instead of go to the enemy base, attack his farms/resource buidlings, run back to your base if units still alive, go back and harass more, and so on.

[Shikari]

WOTR mode will definitely be available for the Mote faction. We've already added wotr for rohan, we just have to get around to doing it for harad/rhun as well.
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[Myrdin]

i d like to ask one thing ( dunno if mentioned before )

Can you add healing for evil races ( now i dont men MoTE, their fortress gives nearby healing )

i mean, only becouse you are evil it doens mean you wont heal, just look at some orc weterans, if they couldnt heal only coz they are bad, sauron would be pretty screwed lol ( i would like to kick EA in ass for this stupidity )

soo can you add something like : Isengard - campfire
Mordor - blood well
Goblins - bone pile

just reskinning the good races wells. i think its not soo big deal ( the concept of healing, not the skinning ) coz evil lacks leadership statues too, soooooo . . . . . . at least the healing ability