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#41 rutger

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:16 PM

well if we would get together we should be able to do it. but only if everyone would help :p
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#42 Taralom

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 10:57 AM

even in the movie there's a small scene where the uruks try to besiege the Hornbrug with those greater ladders. at a certain moment there's a one-man hit. one rohan defender falls behand the wall.

so i'd say no splash damage
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Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:09 PM

Do you have the two towers in front of the gate like the movie? And will Rohan have Theoden's guard people?

Many of the parts for Helm's Deep will be edited in some way, especially the gate area.
Rohan has the units called Helm's Defenders and ther are meant to be Theoden's guards :p

I heard someone say that if you took away the postern gate it would be very hard to hold off ballistas, anyway if you edit the wall to take away the parts of the gathouse that have the postern gate :lol: , I'm pretty sure you can just edit them in in wrold builder. :p

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#44 Rob38

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:34 AM

Yes, if I remove the postern gate, the ballistas would have to be weakened a lot :lol:

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 01:00 PM

Personally I'd like to see the ballistas removed, as they just removed all fun from that mission.

I don't want it to be really easy, but I also don't want a siege weapon operated by 2 uruks bringing down my entire army. The battle should be about the actual hand to hand fighting IMO, not a case of destroying all the defenders with use of a few ballistas...
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 02:06 PM

I agree... the damage done by the ballista is seriously OP....

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 04:54 PM

well rob said (i think) that splash damage would be removed, and maybe if jimiojoe gets this to work they'll only be there for launching ladders up.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:10 PM

yep thats right
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#49 Rob38

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:29 PM

Well, if I do make attacking ballistas, there range would be severly reduced so that archers on the wall can hit it. I would probably remove all splash damage also so that it can only hit one unit at a time :)

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 02:23 AM

I have a question what is the the mod abaut does it add new factions or units?
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Posted 16 July 2007 - 05:06 AM

I have a question what is the the mod abaut does it add new factions or units?

All the information you need to know should be here :p The website is a little screwed up right now since it's being redone but it should tell everything you need to know ;)

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 07:13 PM

have you ever played The third age?? (game not the site :p )
because the helm's deep in that game is waaay different than the EA's one.
if you want i can try to make a drawing of it like a map with legend...
and of course send it to you.

Edited by Taralom, 23 July 2007 - 07:15 PM.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 07:21 PM

have you ever played The third age?? (game not the site :p )
because the helm's deep in that game is waaay different than the EA's one.
if you want i can try to make a drawing of it like a map with legend...
and of course send it to you.

No, I haven't... Didn't even know if they had a Helm's Deep in it ;) Sure, make a drawing if you wish to :blink: I've been studying the entire layout of HD and got it mostly figured out. Just trying to figure out some of the inside stuff out now

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 11:33 PM

have you ever played The third age?? (game not the site :p )
because the helm's deep in that game is waaay different than the EA's one.
if you want i can try to make a drawing of it like a map with legend...
and of course send it to you.


the helms deep on that game is WAAAYY cooler and more realistic - i think i remember reading something years ago where they said the actual plans and stuff used for the movie was lent to EA to make Helms Deep more believable
Its actually perfect butt...
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would be extremely hard to make it ingame ;) (in BFME2) a very complicated castle it is...

ie (for one) just the weaponry is underneath the main keep which is accessed through a whole in, the keep/hornburg bit which is at the moment one model.

Then you have the tall stairs which at the top have a shooting platform and a door leading to the hornburg- although a version of that is in this mapmod which is cool

okay that probably didnt make sense

Edited by jimiojoe, 23 July 2007 - 11:35 PM.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:22 PM

Actually, it did :huh: I really would like to see images of this Helm's Deep... :p

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:01 AM

sure i'll draw the castle for you.
i only have to dig in my memory.. ;)

i'll send it by pm or post it around here if you'd like.
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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:30 PM

sure i'll draw the castle for you.
i only have to dig in my memory.. :grin:
i'll send it by pm or post it around here if you'd like.

Either way is fine :shiftee:

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 08:47 AM

okay,

i've been busy for you already. but i'm not very pleased with the results thusfar.
do you want it like a map or 3d??

edit: it's done. I'm not to pleased with it but it's better than what i had before.
you might want to open up paint or another program to zoom in. With red i've detailed some things.
dammit you guys are going to say i'm noob ^_^

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 04:33 PM

okay,

i've been busy for you already. but i'm not very pleased with the results thusfar.
do you want it like a map or 3d??

edit: it's done. I'm not to pleased with it but it's better than what i had before.
you might want to open up paint or another program to zoom in. With red i've detailed some things.
dammit you guys are going to say i'm noob ;)

Very interesting ^_^ So there are 8 pillars in the throne room correct? and where are the glittering caves located? Also, do you know where the armory location is? The stables are in unique spot...perhaps I can put something there :p

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 08:05 PM

okay,

i've been busy for you already. but i'm not very pleased with the results thusfar.
do you want it like a map or 3d??

edit: it's done. I'm not to pleased with it but it's better than what i had before.
you might want to open up paint or another program to zoom in. With red i've detailed some things.
dammit you guys are going to say i'm noob :rolleyes:

Very interesting :p So there are 8 pillars in the throne room correct? and where are the glittering caves located? Also, do you know where the armory location is? The stables are in unique spot...perhaps I can put something there :thumbsupsmiley:


i think the armoury was directly under the..... inner keep bit... as in you go through the gate and up the ramp on the right is an entrance into it
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