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#21 Nazgûl

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 12:10 AM

I also added a close up pic now that shows the tremendeous detail in the Mordor textures, compared to the dull ones that the other factions have =p

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#22 InfernoX

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 01:57 AM

I have an idea for goblin walls, although i'm sure you already though of something, but I like my idea =D

Goblins are the kind of faction that don't exactly "build their own structures" y'know? plunderers and cave dwellers.

So I was thinking, what if their "walls" were like mountains of sorts, and basically their base would be in a mountain ( of course, the top would have to be similar to indoor areas in the blue mountains, so you could still function)


Crazy and complicated, but you must admit it would be cool to build your own mountain =D

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 04:46 AM

Well, here's the lay down on the final needed walls AND the outcome, at once :D

At first I wanted to use the backup plan I had for the Mordor Walls... This is a very nice wall segment that I found after spending several hours scanning models in WB. Initially I intended to put these in for MOrdor if I would never get the "genuine" Mordor walls - the Dol Guldur ones that I love ^_^ But thanks to FlameGuard I never "had" to use these. They are still very good and quite Mordor-ish too though, but they lack Gate and Hub. So I thought that hey, what if I for Goblins combine that Segment with a nice webby rock, and I came up with this combination...
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Looking quite good, and the best part is that there are also 3 damage model states... BUT, like most of you I also think it's not really Goblin-ish to build such perfect arcitecture, so I decided to switch to something more suitable... And this is the result! :p


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I'm very satisfied with this solution as I think it fits this faction perfectly. They will naturally be the weakest walls in the game, and they will have no upgrades whatsoever, not even gates, so you will have to make holes in them manually like I did on the screen shot (destroy one segment or two). But they are still some kind of protection and they will help to slow the enemy assault down a bit so the poor goblins can get organized :xd:

So, now all factions have walls ;)

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 06:32 AM

Nice idea for the Goblins now they don't end up looking inferior.
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 06:49 AM

Well, here's the lay down on the final needed walls AND the outcome, at once :xd:

At first I wanted to use the backup plan I had for the Mordor Walls... This is a very nice wall segment that I found after spending several hours scanning models in WB. Initially I intended to put these in for MOrdor if I would never get the "genuine" Mordor walls - the Dol Guldur ones that I love ^_^ But thanks to FlameGuard I never "had" to use these. They are still very good and quite Mordor-ish too though, but they lack Gate and Hub. So I thought that hey, what if I for Goblins combine that Segment with a nice webby rock, and I came up with this combination...

Looking quite good, and the best part is that there are also 3 damage model states... BUT, like most of you I also think it's not really Goblin-ish to build such perfect arcitecture, so I decided to switch to something more suitable... And this is the result! :p

I'm very satisfied with this solution as I think it fits this faction perfectly. They will naturally be the weakest walls in the game, and they will have no upgrades whatsoever, not even gates, so you will have to make holes in them manually like I did on the screen shot (destroy one segment or two). But they are still some kind of protection and they will help to slow the enemy assault down a bit so the poor goblins can get organized ^_^

So, now all factions have walls :D

Looks very nice but you havent announced this before right ? Because I was planning something like this, but with some upgrades, for Mordor some time ago and I dont want people to think that it was stolen idea ;)

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 09:34 AM

I believe it happens all the time that people have similiar ideas. Especially the good ones! ;)

About the GoblinWalls/Fence: Why bother with a gate? Climb, climb, climb, right, hehe) Don't know if Gorkil can do it (yet), but Shelob for sure. And Drogoth..... :p

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 09:54 AM

Wow.... I almost like the Goblin's walls more than Mordor :p but that's because they both look sweet, and I've seen the mordor walls before :D ;)

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 12:43 PM

But trolls can't climb...

However great job!!

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 01:07 PM

Yup, even more drinks all around!

It fits, but why no upgrades? The Web Cocoon would look pretty sweet on that.
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 02:25 PM

Mak, no problem... lol, like Sûl said, people are bound to come up with similar ideas somewhere along the line. I wont accuse you of stealing ideas my friend ;)

Spongeman... they wont get any upgrades like web, cause that would recuire modeling :lion: Othwervise I would do it, cause it would be rather cool :p

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 02:40 PM

And yea I knew that you wouldnt but sometimes some random people who download mods might do that :p

How would it require modeling ? As far as I know Web Cocoon is just new texture+better defence.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 02:52 PM

Well, in that case I would want the web to sort of be spun across and between the bars/spikes... yo know, like making the whole wall more "solid". That would require modeling.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 04:04 PM

You could just have a little rectangle go through the segments then skin a web with an alpha shader on it.

Wouldn't be too difficult.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 04:45 PM

Do it!? :p

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 10:29 PM

I don't know if im stupid or not but

Where do we download these?
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Posted 05 May 2007 - 11:05 PM

Do it!? :p


I could do the skin and maybe draw the rectangle, but i'm no modeler XD

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 12:31 AM

I don't know if im stupid or not but

Where do we download these?


:p ;) A bit yes... you can't, it's still only in the internal Beta - here, in my computer :lion:

Do it!? ;)


I could do the skin and maybe draw the rectangle, but i'm no modeler XD


I can do skins too since Ive done almost all skins in the whole game now :wub: but like you, I'm no modeler either so - no modeling can be done.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:41 AM

to make the creation of "gates" more sophisticated, give it a button which will detonate a weapon with a small range which only affects your own walls and destroys them in 1 hit :)
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 11:44 AM

:) Sweet! Simple and elegant.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 12:07 PM

to make the creation of "gates" more sophisticated, give it a button which will detonate a weapon with a small range which only affects your own walls and destroys them in 1 hit :mellow:


Hehe well, that's pretty much what happens when you just destroy a segment "normally"... :)

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