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[Gfire]

If Sauron had the ring, he would be the most powerful spirit in middle earth, except perhaps for tom, who is just confusing and we don't know about.

Tom is very mysterious, but, like the Istari, he doesn't use powers of mass destruction. If he's able to do such things, he chooses not to. The Istari weren't allowed to use their full power in Middle Earth, either.

The fact is we don't know how powerful Tom is or how much power he would use (i'd expect he'd use no power,) but we know he doesn't get more powerful from the ring.

[Nazgûl]

From Hero Roster topic, slightly edited:

We could solve the Ring system by using Frodo and Sam as "Ring Heroes" only, for good factions! Frodo carries the One Ring and Sam is a slave unit protecting him. They'd be recruitable from the fortress that captures the ring, and if they make it across the map to the other side and off screen without being "killed"/captured, the evil guys will die in say 30 minutes (timer) when they reach Mount Doom. And if not, and if they're killed along the way, the Ring is once again up for grabs when Frodo drops it.

Gosh, that would be cool...

[zachdaddy_3000]

*moved here from Hero roster topic* /Naz

However: If we do that, we could solve the Ring system more easily though... and use Frodo and Sam as "Ring Heroes" only, traveling from the fortress that captures the ring, across the map, and if they make it off screen without being "killed"/captured, the bad guys will die in XX minutes when they reach Mount Doom. (And if not, the Ring is once again up for grabs when Frodo drops it). Gosh, that would be cool...

Lol... this is kind of like one of my random ideas I came up with. When you take the Ring to a good faction fortress, you can buy Frodo and Sam. Sam would be mostly a support character while Frodo would have the Ring. If you get Frodo to reach the enemy fortress, the entire enemy base blows up. In terms of a coding standpoint, this should be completely possible.

I like this, but instead of the fortress "blowing up" what if when Frodo and Sam reach the fortress it starts an earthquake (the one from the palantir powers) at the center of the fortress, damaging the fortress and the surrounding buildings. I think that might be easier to code too, since the good factions (except elves) have this power already!

Edited by Nazgûl, 22 October 2009 - 10:21 AM.

[Prince of the Dark Forest]

I agree with zachdaddy. If the game ends when Frodo reaches the enemy fortress, obtaining the ring would basically mean an almost automatic win (even if the other team can kill Frodo before he does so)... I think that when you have the ring you should be able to buy Fordo and Sam (as a horde, perhaps with Sam as a 'slave' ) and use them in usual combat/battles like we can now, but also have the option of trying to get them to the enemy base to cause MAJOR damage, but not automatic win...

Also regarding heroes, what kind of powers will the Cave Troll of Moria have?

[Archon]

The earthquake should do MASSIVE damage however, because it has to be balanced with Sauron's powers (or Sauron could be nerfed, either way)

[khamulrulz]

the topic has drifted to ring heroes, but oh well.... i think since the earthquake thing is the equivalent of destroying the ring, frodo only gets to do that earthquake thing once. then, you have to capture the ring from gollum again to use it on another fortress. that way, it evens it out with sauron (one hit fortress kill vs actually staying alive the whole time)

[Gfire]

I think the destruction of the ring would disable the enemy spell tree (Sauron's power) but not destroy the whole base. And after the ring is destroyed you should not be able to get it again.

[khamulrulz]

merry and pippin should stay with elves for 4.7, but in 4.8 when gondor and rohan split, they should go to their respective factions. to replace the treebeard mount thing, then you could have merry mount on the back of eowyn's horse, and pippin mount on the back of gandalf's horse if you want

[Gfire]

IF they split.

The horses aren't as cool, but it'll have to do, I guess.


EDIT: Go HERE! /Naz

Edited by Nazgûl, 04 November 2009 - 11:49 PM.